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Mac OS X: What makes Mac OS X superior to Windows?
And that is precisely my point!
by mrmacfixit
- 7/29/09 7:50 AM
In reply to: worms and viruses? by sturner--2008
I called the OP on the statement that the 13 machines that he maintains get viruses.
They don't! As you pointed out, they can receive them but as far as OS X is concerned, they are things that it cannot run and are therefore harmless to the system.
Unfortunately, he seems to believe that his Macs get viruses, which is not correct.
This is how a lot of surveys are conducted and how they end up with a high percentage of Mac OS X users stating that their machine has had a virus.
I note there has been no response from the OP with the requested details
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Used for...
by mwooge - 7/25/09 10:05 PM In reply to: What makes Mac OS X superior to Windows? by tenashus1What will you use it for? If you're going to use it at college, get whatever they use there. If for business, you'll need compatability there, too.
If for home or hobby, make a list of the software first, then check if it's all available on the Mac.
What do you use your computer for?
by soupgfx - 7/26/09 7:10 PM In reply to: What makes Mac OS X superior to Windows? by tenashus1Ask yourself, "What do I use my computer for?"
If you answer, "email, surfing the web, pictures, music and video" then Macs are the way to go. If you're answer is, "programming, computer hacking, or beta testing websites" then PCs are the way to go.
For the majority of people, they need a home computer that allows them to surf the web, email and manage their music and photos, you cannot beat the Mac. It just straight up does the job better than any PC ever could. It's because of it's simplicity and ease of use. Isn't that what we all want in our everyday activities?
People love to bring up the price difference between the Mac and the PC. Ya, you'll pay less for the PC but down the road, how many PCs will have to buy for the Mac you buy today? You compare the quality of what Apple builds and you look at the quality of the $499 Dell or HP computer and you tell me what you think is worth your money? Don't you wonder why on the Microsoft TV ads, they always have the customer look at the Mac laptops and they say, "These are really nice computers, etc... etc...." but then the customer goes and buys the cheaper PC? It's true. PCs are made cheaper in general and you'll buy more of them over time. That's fine but think of every time you have to move over your programs, move over your pictures, re-load all your music... That gets tougher and tougher as we all rely on our computers handle more and more of our lives. How many times have you had to reload your OS on a PC? It's just the nature of owning a PC. You'll do it atleast twice in the lifetime of your computer. Macs are just not that way.
I work on both every day and just like the other guy said, "The Mac works with you and with the PC, you're always working against it." This is so true. Every time I download something from the web, I have to hunt it down or figure out how to install a driver or something. On the Mac, it just plain works.
I have been able to convert both my girlfriend and my dad (diehard PC user) to Mac laptops and both have thank me for the persistent suggestion to switch. It's hard to swallow the extra cost to do the switch but when you still have the same desktop/laptop 5 years from now, you'll understand why.
Went ahead and bought the MacBook Pro 13" 2.26 ghz.
by tenashus1 - 7/27/09 2:43 PM In reply to: What do you use your computer for? by soupgfxI started out with Macs then went to PCs for affordability and variety of software. Always missed Macs since. Curious about OS X and Snow Leopard. I will be interested to see the competition between Snow Leopard and Windows 7. It should be something. I have read now many reviews on the Mac Book Pro, and 99.5% of them shine. So I grabbed at the opportunity to go for a Mac again at this point. It will be fun to be in the best of both worlds.
Thank you all for your valuable input into my decision.
I did find out one important thing about the Mac Book Pro. It is not possible to compare them with PC laptops. The Macs cannot be studied and evaluated in a piece by piece fashion. In the case of the Macs, it appears that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts (it's the Gestalt of the thing) and that's what makes it a superior machine to any PC out there. PC laptops for some reason can be evaluated on a piece by piece basis and - as funny as it sounds - that seems to make them inferior. Mac laptops are now simply the "total package"
(NT) Nicely put, and Welcome back
by mrmacfixit - 7/27/09 4:06 PM
In reply to: Went ahead and bought the MacBook Pro 13" 2.26 ghz. by tenashus1
Sorry - no
by msgale - 7/27/09 4:23 PM In reply to: (NT) Nicely put, and Welcome back by mrmacfixit
A Mac is the sum of its parts, no more and; no less, and almost of those parts are the same as a PC. Same processors, same memory, same disk drive, same PCI bus, some of the same video cards +...+. Question - why is the ability to run Windows on a MAC supported by Apple, while they make it impossible to run OSX on a PC?
There's something ineffable about a Mac.
by tenashus1 - 7/27/09 4:42 PM In reply to: Sorry - no by msgaleThe psychological component cannot be left out of the equation. I have not used a Mac in a long time (though I will soon be doing so I'm happy to say), but it is a more engaging and friendly experience than using a PC. I have to agree with the Apple TV ads. The PC is stuffy and nerdy. It gets the job done, but there's no love lost. It's work. It's not an experience.
You can eat meat at Golden Corral or at Ruth Cris' Steakhouse. Your belly will get full in both places, and it all comes out the same. One is more satisfying than the other though. The psychological factor cannot be ignored.
Yes, yes
by jennywren1420 - 8/1/09 5:36 AM In reply to: There's something ineffable about a Mac. by tenashus1But more than that, Macs are so user-friendly. Not only are they plug and play, but when a problem arises, as often as not, you'll be able to address it yourself, instead of having to take it to a shop or bring in an IT expert. I'm no dummy but no expert, either, and in all the years I've had Macs (I started with PCs at an office where I worked), there has seldom been anything I couldn't tackle myself or with a bit of advice. The one exception that comes to mind was a dying hard drive, and that was OLD.
As for PCs being cheaper, does a PC have all the great applications that come standard now with Macs? Can you use one with the same ease? And then there's Windows, the source of many a wail and rant. Still, anyone who prefers a PC should just use one. There really is no reason to have to tear down Macs and Mac users. No superiority complex here; I just want to use my Mac in peace and give others advice when asked and as I see it.
I'm glad, though, that you chose a Mac. I am sure you'll enjoy it, and besides, there are these great CNET Mac forums, source of warmth, reassurance and great advice.
Jenny
I'm using my Mac Book Pro, and...
by tenashus1 - 8/1/09 6:02 AM In reply to: Yes, yes by jennywren1420there's just no contest. The Mac wins over my PCs by light years. Fast, easy, and most efficient. I'm re-hooked. 
No clones for Apple; it ruins their business.
by BeatleMegaFan - 7/27/09 10:21 PM In reply to: Sorry - no by msgaleFor the time being, OS X will never be licensed out to other vendors. Never again. Apple allowed a variety of clone makers to install the Mac OS on their computers during the nineties, and that contributed to the downward spiral that Apple was falling through at the time. Clone makers were making and building bigger and better computers, so customers bought their products over Apple's, while still retaining all of the features and functionality as a real Macintosh. They lost too much money over that. When Steve Jobs returned and revived the company, he terminated all of the existing licensing contracts. I highly doubt Apple would ever willingly consent to another licensing agreement with any company for a long, long time.
Apple has what, 10% market share these days? Sure, they're selling more and more computers, but percentage-wise, their numbers are still in an extremely small minority. They are trying to grow and expand their business as much as possible, and none of that would have been possible without the iPod or iPhone. They help the Mac grow. As the OP mentioned above, the experience is what draws people, and many people really enjoy it over the "Windows experience". For some people, Apple has been able to deliver this. It's an opinion and a choice. You are trying to say that the OP's opinion is wrong, and honestly, none of us can determine that but him or her. Does Apple use some of the same components as everyone? Of course. But they are able to fine tune their software and their choice of hardware into something that "just works". Running Windows alongside OS X is just a bonus due to the Intel-based systems they use now. Apple refuses to allow the opposite because they make their systems and their software. They want to control both ends of the spectrum, unlike Microsoft who only controls one. Either way, both companies have made fortunes, so it's really just a matter of preference between them. But, it's impossible to say that a Mac is just the same as any generic PC.
-BMF
Good choice
by BobHG - 7/28/09 7:33 PM In reply to: Went ahead and bought the MacBook Pro 13" 2.26 ghz. by tenashus1A wise choice! Now you effectively have two machines in one package as you can also boot into Windows - if you really want to.
Mac vs Windows
by gods_son_is_me - 7/28/09 1:44 AM In reply to: What makes Mac OS X superior to Windows? by tenashus11 It's not Microslop
2 It works right out of the box
3 It is 90% stable and much more so than Vista. Windoze 7 has yet to be assessed.
4 It's intuitive to learn and use.
5 Malware has been covered
6 It looks more professional and much more good looking.
7 All the apps talk to each other
8 The Apps are mainly backwards and forwards compatible
9 It is cheaper
10 It is cross platform compatible with the majority of popular programs,even games or if you HAVE to have it MS Office.
11 If you HAVE too you can run Widoze too so you get both for the price of one!
12 Have a look at
http://www.apple.com/au/getamac/whymac/
And you will see.
13 Just go and play with one at an Apple Reseller, and I guarantee you will come home with one!
No I am not superstitious!
total cost of ownership
by sturner--2008 - 7/28/09 6:10 PM In reply to: Mac vs Windows by gods_son_is_meThe bottom line of ownership isn't the list price. The total cost of ownership includes maintenance costs, software, time and work lost due to other factors (virus, worms, trojans, reinstalling system OS).
You can reinstall the Mac OS in 1/3 the time that it takes to re-install Windows OS. And you don't have a 5 time limit to reinstall the OS.
Huh
by msgale - 7/28/09 6:44 PM In reply to: total cost of ownership by sturner--2008There is no 5 time limit, on the same PC
Why would I reinstall Vista? Once is all it takes.
reinstall Windows
by sturner--2008 - 7/30/09 10:14 AM In reply to: Huh by msgaleChange your boot harddrive, reinstall your Windows OS. Tell me then, that you don't have to re-authorize.
And the limit for automatic re-authorization may not be 5 re-installs, but there is a limit. Then you have to phone MS to get the install key.
Big hassle.
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