Peripherals: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills?
- 7/17/09 2:48 PM
OEM Absolutely
by flightwave - 7/18/09 8:19 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have two HP laserjet printers - 1100 and a 1600 color. I purchased a third party cartridge for the 1100. The print quality was poor and it lasted a fraction of the time of the original HP cartridge so this is not good value.
Although the color cartridges cost a fortune, I wouldn't run the risk of using third party cartridges. Also, if there is a problem with an HP cartridge, I can return it for a replacement.
Many computer junkies will opt for third party and refills. Good luck to them as they likely know more about them than I do. When it comes to computers and peripherals I must be assured of quality.
disable cartridge check
by hherbzilla - 7/18/09 8:52 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been happy with 3rd party and go back and forth between the two. However, my suggestion is to be sure and turn off the auto cartridge check (if it applies). I have an HP 2600n and, with the setting on, it will prevent you from printing until you replace a "low" cartridge. However, with the setting off, I've literally been able to print for months without having to replace the cartridges. Have a replacement handy when the ink level gets low, but don't replace it until it is truly out of ink. You'll save hundreds of dollars if you turn the setting OFF!
For this printer in particular:
Cartridge Out Override can only be enabled from the printer’s control panel menu.
1. From the main menu, press (RIGHT ARROW) to System setup and press (SELECT).
2. Press (RIGHT ARROW) to Print quality and press (SELECT).
3. Press (RIGHT ARROW) to Replace supplies and press (SELECT).
4. Press (RIGHT ARROW) to Override out and press (SELECT).
5. Press (SELECT).
If Stop at out is selected, the printer will stop printing when a cartridge reaches the recommended replacement point. If Override out is selected, the printer will continue printing when a cartridge reaches the recommended replacement point. The factory default setting is Stop at out.
Only orignal carthriges in a limo or any other car
by stretchlimochicago - 7/18/09 9:40 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Yeap, I agree with Lee Koo. The final results and no risk of leakage is my top priarioty.
As a limo driver for chicago limo company, I use portable printer to print trip sheets and customer receipts. I had an issude with third party ink cartridges twice over the period of last two years. They leaked and spoiled my limousine.
v.t.
chicago limo driver
RE; injet cartrige refills
by noriefine - 7/18/09 10:27 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
First of all I ruined a Lexmark 4 in 1 by using a refill kit it actually ruined the printer mechanism. So as you may well guess I am all for OEM cartridges...I have ruined clothes trying to refill. I have purchased refurbished cartridges and they have been useless, (dried up before I got them). I still get emails to my junk mail from the "reputable" company I purchased those from...People, those OEM may be expensive but do not make the mistakes I have and ruin clothes, printers, and waste money on worthless junk....Norma
I just don't get it
by jjohnson1313 - 7/18/09 10:38 AM In reply to: RE; injet cartrige refills by noriefineI don't know why anyone would try to refill themselves, but I have used remanufactured from a national company and have better quality than OEMs.
It is not hard to get
by LionsMike - 7/19/09 2:34 PM In reply to: I just don't get it by jjohnson1313When I had a Cannon printer which had easy to refill cartridges, The cartridges cost $29.00 and I could refill them for $2.00
Refills vs Remanufactured - no contest.
by doclee2 - 7/21/09 12:28 AM In reply to: I just don't get it by jjohnson1313My Canon printer uses BCI-21 cartridges - black and a combined 3-colour cartridge.
I refill them myself with Universal Ink from www.jrinkjet.com. Each 250mls bottle of ink (black, magenta, cyan & yellow) cost me £20 and provide me with over 40 refills of 6mls of black ink (= 50p/refill) and over 80 refills of 3mls of coloured inks (= 25p/refill).
When a colour runs out it takes me about 5 minutes to complete a refill. I do not have to go out and buy a refilled cartridge or order and await its delivery but can get on with my printing without any further delay.
The decision to refill is a simple case of good economics and good use of available time. If you are able to refill your own cartridges there's no contest between doing that and purchasing remanufactured cartridges - refilling beats it both on cost and convenience.
Third-party ink cartridges
by woody70 - 7/18/09 10:57 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have found that HP third party cartridges are great, but Epson cartridges are bad. They don't last, don't start up and lack good color.
OEM inkjet cartridges vs. 3rd party(remanufactured)/refills
by russemartin - 7/18/09 11:07 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I agree about the cost of printer manufacturers ink being too expensive! I have used HP printers for 14 years several different models of which currently I am using an HP J6480 and an HP F4280. I am currently using cartridges from 4inkjets.com and have been using them for about 2 years. The only thing I have a problem with is the Ink level sensor. It does not register the remanufactured cartridges ink level. I think I just saw a fix for that within this forum somewhere. Anywho outside of that issue I haven't had a problem with using remanufactured cartridges which cost 50% or more, less than manufacture's cartridges. My printing output is strictly for Hobby purposes so QUALITY is no big deal as long as the picture is fairly good. By that I mean that if the color is supposed to be blue it's not something else, etc. I can also print in DRAFT quality and only the tone grade suffers a little, a little bit lighter shade of color.
When I first purchased a computer I looked at ALL of the manufacturers of printers and with the advice of good friends in the Technology Field I chose HP and I have NEVER regretted my choice! HP printers have lasted for 3 or 4 years for me with the exception of the last printer which is still in good shape and looking to sell - an HP Officejet 6210 which I replaced with one that had wireless capability HP J6480. If I were to do high quality Professional work I would use the best quality cartridges available. Because you don't get a second chance to make a first impression!!!!!
Aftermarket stuff is junk
by dlmiley - 7/18/09 12:40 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have tried the aftermarket stuff and I could never get them to work. I gave up and use HP official inks. And I get a discount from HP since my employer is a large customer of HP - you should check with your HR folks - you may be eligible for a discount. And HP has a print rewards club where you can save 50% on your third cartridge if you buy 3 and you always get free shipping. So if your printers are HP - buy directly from them and you would be disappointed or frustrated with aftermarket junk.
Kodak
by hcvan - 7/19/09 4:33 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I solved my printer problem by purchasing a Kodak printer. OEM Cartridges are $9.95 for Black & $13.95 for color. I will never switch back unless they change thier policy
They are both good.
by jal.thanawala - 7/19/09 6:40 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
used to be a time when printer manufacturers would sell their printers cheap, hoping to recover costs and make a killing on peripherals like ink. In those days, they definitely had a far superior ink quality than the fly-by-night refill operators of yore. However, with the advance of technology, today's refills are at par with the OEMs, and I might add, cheaper to boot.
You could just buy a whole new printer!
by Tobybear - 7/19/09 11:57 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Lets just say you needed a basic printer, nothing fancy, just for personal use, to print out a few recipes, tax returns, and maybe a resume or two.
Theres a well known major retail store selling a Epson Stylus NX300 All-In-One Multi-Function Printer, Scanner, Copier & Fax for $49.00. Complete with 1 x cartridge ( black ) - Epson T069 ¦ 1 x cartridge ( cyan ) - Epson T069 ¦ 1 x cartridge ( magenta ) - Epson T069 ¦ 1 x cartridge ( yellow ) - Epson T069
The cost for all those inks, seperately $54.21.
Yes, it would be cheaper just to replace the entire printer, than to change out all your ink.
Theres another retail giant that sells a Lexmark for $39.99, the replacement ink is $46.99
Granted, these arent the best printers out there, but shouldnt the lowest priced printer complete with ink cost more than the ink alone?
Im sure they make a profit from each printer sold even when it comes with ink!
Something tells me that if a major Quality printer maker announced that all of there printer ink cartridges were to be sold at an MSRP of $10 or less, and still be the same high quantity, they would sell way more printers, and loads more ink!
Good Point --
by RathaBHome - 7/19/09 12:49 PM In reply to: You could just buy a whole new printer! by TobybearThe high cost of OEM ink is encouraging people just to buy a new printer. You don't like paying as much for the ink as you paid for the printer with the ink included.
I only buy Brother, Canon, or Epson printers because I can buy compatible ink cartridges for them. Compatible ink cartridges are not available for some printers. You can only buy remanufactured cartridges for Lexmark and HP. I don't want to refill cartridges and I don't want to buy remanufactured cartridges.
I have found that the compatible ink cartridges work as well as the OEM although sometimes there is a difference in color tone. Check out
ldproducts.com for quality compatible cartridges. LD Products have compatible cartridges that include the chip needed so the printer will reset the ink monitor.
If the printer companies want to keep our business then they need to reduce the cost of their ink products.
New Printer v New Cartridge
by LionsMike - 7/19/09 2:22 PM In reply to: Good Point -- by RathaBHomeMy most recent printer purchase was a HP Photosmart with 6 ink cartridges for $49.99. The 5 color cartridges sell as a bundle for $59.99 and the black cartridge sells for $19.99. Why would a person even consider buying the cartridges while the printer is right there with full cartridges for $30.00 less
BTW I was in the store to buy one color cartridge for my old printer. It would have cost me $34.00
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