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Peripherals: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills?
- 7/17/09 2:48 PM
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by doclee2 - 7/12/09 11:40 AM In reply to: OEM Vs Compatible Refills by panda_pclMandy Rice-Davis, actuallly - "Randy Mandy" to the tabloid press and thousands of pubertal boys in the 1960s!!
Third party ink cartridges
by kjake4 - 7/12/09 1:04 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I, too have a Canon printer. I use third party ink cartridges with no problems. I use LD Ink Cartridges that are advertised as being 100% compatible. I order online from discountinkjet.com. I get four cartridges for less than $20.00 and free shipping. I print alot of photos and they last a really long time. Good luck.
There is no wrong or right answer to this one.
by chrisfunk - 7/12/09 2:43 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
You can save money and get very good results without damaging your printer, it's a fact. Plently of people do it. I know somebody who runs 6 different epson printers for a wedding stationery business, all on compatibles and has never had a problem with the inks they use at the moment. I have a canon IP4200 photo printer and have only used compatibles and the prints are amazing with no problems in over 2 years of having the printer.
The thing is this. With anything of this nature, your experience will depend on a lot of factors. The type of printer, what sort of use it gets and where you get your ink from and even your choice of paper. I have seen compatibles that don't work so well with one type of paper but look better than OEM inks on other paper.
The person I mentioned has spent months trying compatibles from many suppliers including shops, online stores and ebay sellers. It's trial and error and you will be sure to find plenty of bad ones before you strike gold.
There are forums dedicated to digital photography and printing for pros. You might want to explore these and find out what people with your exact printer are using?
As far as damaging the printer, I find it hard to believe that it is simply 'fake' ink that causes problems. Of course the manufacturers will do the same as every other company who produces devices that use consumable items, which is to try and scare you into only buying the OEM part. They can't possible say it's ok to use compatibles after all because they can not test every one available and would be liable for problesm if they were caused by ink so it's safer to tell you not to use them at all.
Regular maintenance will keep your printer running well in my experience no matter what ink you use. You just have to try a few before finding one that is as good as the original, but they do exist.
OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and ref
by lois228lois - 7/12/09 5:22 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
When using the third party inks, they have had a very strong smell. They could be more toxic. Don't use unless you have plenty of ventilation.Can cause upper respiratory problems. Don't use if your printer is in room where you sleep.
Do some serious research before you buy the non- OEM ink
by joerog55 - 7/12/09 7:18 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Yes, the cost of OEM ink is ridiculous. The reason they make the printers so cheap is so they can get you to buy it and get it back when you buy the ink, be it inkjet, solid ink, or toner cartridges. I had bad experiences with all three ink mediums. There are some good companies that make very compatible ink replacements. Media Sciences has served me well. Before I knew any better, I purchased erzatz solid ink for my Xerox Phaser 8400 because I could get it on E-bay for 1/3rd the price of the OEM. It nearly destroyed the printer, and it took quite a bit to get the heads working again and printing reasonably well, but the damage was never completely repaired and I retired that printer last year. I have an Okidata laser printer and I used fill it yourself packets of toner. After six months of using the refilled cartridges I had to replace all four image drums and throw out four good cartridges. Needless to say, after replacing the drums I went back to OEM cartridges.
If you are going to refill your own, get as much info on the supplier of the ink as you can, especially reviews. There are some good suppliers, but many more bad ones out there.
One other solution that has worked very well for me, is to bid and shop on E-bay and other sites for the specific OEM inks that you want. You can get some great bargains on 'certified genuine OEM ink' I generally got OEM ink for the Phaser and Okidata at about half the price on the retail market.
Printer cartridge refills
by blurrier - 7/12/09 7:51 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Take your empty printer ink cartridges to Walgreens and have them refill 'em. The refilled cartridges work fine in my HP C4280 All-In-One printer/scanner/copier. And at $10 a refill, you can't beat that.
Ignore the "low ink" warning on the printer after you insert the cartridges. It'll go away after awhile.
OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and ref
by glynnes45 - 7/12/09 9:55 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Years ago I used third part ink cartridges for an Epson I had it killed the heads and had to get a new printer. Stayed with brand name cartridges and though the Epson still ended up dying due to a head problem (a weakness of theirs) it was after several years. I now have a Canon MP830 and had been using the Canon cartridges. Decided to try an off brand...NEVER AGAIN. So far it hasn't killed my printer, but each one I installed, leaked on my hands...the last one even dripped on my carpet. Plus they don't last but about a third of the time of my Canon ones. So I will continue to watch sales and use coupons to get my brand name ones at discount!!! Gerry
right idea
by haf canadian - 7/21/09 4:23 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and ref by glynnes45Gerry-
I think you've got the right (and best) idea. Stick to OEM, but minimize their sticking it to you!
Judging by all the posts taken together here, as a general position, the liklihood of having a problem somewhere along the line, immediately or far down the road, that's caused by aftermarket ink use, is pretty good. So for the sake of machine preservation, service failure stress avoidance, refill hassle with time and mess, and color and print quality maintenance, my take on this is to shop around for the best deals on OEM. That's what I've been doing for years now, but was wondering if things had changed - so I sent the question to Lee Koo at the Forum. I prefer buying at local brick and mortar, rather than paying additional for shipping, and having to wait a week.
The fly in the ointment has always been that the place with the best price (often Office Depot) is inevitably out of the cartridge I need, and only a few places sell the so-called "photo-" colors in Cyan and Magenta that my one Pixma printer needs for photographs.
-Joel
oem inkjet cartridges vs. third party
by zookeeper820 - 7/12/09 10:11 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I use refilled and new cartridges depending on what I am doing. I have used black refills on my Lexmark for years. I mainly buy new for color printing and photos.
third party replacement ink jet cartridges
by elcid123 - 7/12/09 10:22 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Until a matter of 2 weeks ago I had an Epsom Stylus Photo 750 for 10 years. When I first bought it I first used Epsom own cartridges for a short time, then a switched to third party cartridges and used them without any ploplem for the best part of ten years. I did a considerable amount of printing at times and used to buy paper by the box!
Non-original ink make some print heads clog.
by troruud - 7/12/09 11:29 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I don't think there is one single answer to this. With some printers and some high quality non-original ink it might work. But, by now I have had 3 different Canon printer models all clogging up and turning more or less useless after starting to use cheaper non original cartridges. So now, with my 4th. Canon (a Pixma 4600) I guess I'll stick to original ink only. But the savings on non-original ink is so great it will usually allow you to replace the printer for "free" when it starts clogging up. My 3 previous Canons did after all work satisfactory for many months/refills before clogging got so bad it became a problem when printing.
But it would be interesting to hear other people's experiences with non-original ink. And also what a high quality, non-original ink producer like "inkClub" has to say on this topic.
I tried it and haven't had much success
by brixham5 - 7/12/09 11:55 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I tried with two vendors and neither worked well at all. One didn't work at all and the other failed after about 30 pages, with issues along the way. It was easy to do, but just didn't work for me.
Change printers...
by Timber Creek - 7/12/09 12:53 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I changed fron a lexmark to a kodak printer. And was paying over $60 for 1 color and 1 black/white cartridges. Now I pay about $25 for both.. The best way to lower your cost...Change printers. The anount of money you save pays for the new printer..
OEM vs Refurbished, third patry and refills
by geoyar - 7/12/09 2:12 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
My experience:
Refills are very hard to get right. Usually it is very hard to seal the cartrdge after refill. The bad sealing means more ink leaks on printed page, making blotches sometimes.
Refurbished cartridges are better, but, again, you have too much ink on your page. The printing is legible, but the refurbished cartridges print less pages than OEMs.
Black third party cartridges are as good as OEMs. The color cartridges sometimes give you a little different colors hues than OEMs.
My experience with HP and Canon printers is: use third party or refurbished black cartridges. Use OEM only for color and photo printing
THIRD PARTY INK CARTRIDGES...
by Louis Boda - 7/12/09 5:39 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Ink jet cartridges..An other way to say PAY ME TILL YOU DROP..By the manufacturer..Or by new printer with cartridges about the ame price as 2 new cartridges..I usrd to refill My hp printer cartridges.No problem what so ever..But after about 3 or for refill.Needed a new cartridge.Because the buble jet crtridge has the head on the cartridge..I used this printer for Many years..But new 'puter from D3LL with a printer..Wow Maybe I should not.The price of the cartridges is equel the price of a new printer..Finaly fed upo with the whole mess of buying cartridges.Got an old kit from My day's of HP..Find a hole had to be driled on the original plug ..Vole filedd with chuck full of ink..Hey it works..No I get a bad Neg each time from the printer..THERE IS NO BLACK INK ORDER NEW CARTRIDGE FROM D3LL.((SHOWS A LITLE WINDOW WITH AN EMPTY CARTRIDGE SHELL..))Yet I got it full.After naging the printer,it prints..Then It called the reserve ink..Yet its chuck full of ink..What is in this original cartridges,telling My printer I'm your friend from D3LL..I'm looking tis cartridge,something hiden somewhere telling My printer I'm not a clone..I guess My D3LL printer will hit the dump soon..I guess money made on INK not on the printer..I seen the dumpster full of almost new printers,Why because the price of the ink....
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