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Peripherals: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills?
- 7/17/09 2:48 PM
Ink
by kishore1811 - 7/11/09 2:30 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
All the inks available in the market are as good as the branded ones, like Canon etc., They are quiet good. I am using inkjet printer of Canon for the past eight years. I have changed cartridges. But I have refilled the ink with local available inks. You need not worry about the quality etc., Recently I have purchased one HP all-in-one. For that also I am using local available ink. When you are purchasing branded ink, you are paying the high price for the brand name and not for the ink.
The price of oem ink
by davidwinget - 7/11/09 2:42 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
for my Canon i475D is extremely high. I recently went into a shop to get some replacement cartridges and was shocked by what I saw. Replacing both the black and the color ink with Canon ink cost as much as a new printer! The OEM ink cost nearly HK$400. I was able to get a set of compatible ink for HK$55. I did not have to refill the ink myself. The ink seems to work alright.
If I ever decide to use OEM ink, I may consider just replacing the printer each time the ink needs to be refilled.
OEM inkjet cartridges
by champ110 - 7/11/09 2:43 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It is true that you cannot use third party or compatibles with a Canon printer. Canon make thier own ink and it is not advisable to use anything but canon cartrdges.
I would suggest you look on e-bay for your cartridges as you can find them on there and geniune as well, that's where i buy my cartridges from.
Hope this helps you.
You get what you pay for.
by wtatters - 7/11/09 2:49 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Refills and 3rd party ink cartridges may be cheaper - but they do come with a number of caveats.
First - you will most likely void your warranty.
Most printers have methods built in - to detect if a non-genuine ink product is being used. If this is detected - a record is recorded in the printer.
Second - depending on the brand - you will not be able to track the amount of ink left in your cartridge using the driver tools.
With canon for example, most of its cartridges include a chip that is needed for the printer to even recognise that a cartridge is installed. Many 3rd party products require you to manually remove the chip from a genuine Canon cartridge and attach it to their product - this does let the cartridge work but features like ink levels are lost.
Third - if you are concerned about color accuracy - there is no guarantee that your colors will be 100% matched to the OEM product.
The quality of the chemicals used in cheaper ink products - will work for some people - but if for example you are doing a lot of photo printing on gloss paper - you may find that the blacks in particular are not as color fast.
Worked for me
by esfabian - 7/11/09 3:11 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
My Samsung ML-2010 laser jet printer cost $80.00 a few years ago. Ink cartridges at stores run nearly as much as the whole printer. I have now twice purchased 3rd party cartridges from Office Supply Outfitters for about $53 (including S&H) and have been very satisfied. In the past I have also been buying 3rd party refills, and never had a problem.
OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and ref
by sourbeer - 7/11/09 4:08 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have used third party ink in a Canon IP4200 printer for years with very few problems.Had to deep clean many times with no luck.Replaced the print head. Perfect!But this was after a couple years use and many photos .2 years ago recieved a continuous ink system and Im using 120ml bottles and a syringe twice a year fill-up with no problem.For a few dollars more when you replaced all 5 cartridges you could have gotten a new printer with everything included.In fact, I bought one on e-bay without cartridges for about a third of the price. People were buying,taking out the ink and then selling the printer. refilling since 2005...
RE: refills, OEM, third party inks... - here's the answer...
by gumbypokey - 7/11/09 4:22 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Get a 'Kodak' printer. The ink is 1/3 the price!
I recommend the ESP-5 All-In-One.
Check it out here:
http://www.printandprosper.com
You answered your own question
by opsman000 - 7/11/09 4:31 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
To Joel:
You don't know what is in 3rd party inks. If you have a printer with a permanent printhead you can damage it with non-compatible inks as you already know.
I have a Kodak ESP 7 with a permanent printhead. I would never use any inks other than Kodak. (The inks are priced right plus the cartridge includes a clear coat to protect your pics.)
I have a Lexmark which uses cartridges with printheads included. Although $20 for a printer cartridge with a new printhead is not shabby, it gets pretty expensive when all you really need is ink. So, I refill those cartridges and buy an oem cartridge when I need a new printhead.
OEM vs Third party cartidges
by deanaha - 7/11/09 4:54 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have found that Caboodle brand works well on my HP printer. In fact it is the only bran I now buy, just as reliable as the OEM and slightly cheaper. They also have a money back guarantee that it will preform as well as the OEM
I would say try it at your own risk...
by Merlin289 - 7/11/09 4:55 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think it may be the type of media you are printing I.E, Plain paper or Photo quality prints and maybe the brand of printer? We run a small photo and graphics design company and we started with Canon Printers and for the first year or so everything was going just fine using the OEM ink cartridges. Then we tried using refilled cartridges that you can buy from your favorite Non-OEM Ink cartridge Store and with in days both of the printers STOPED Printing! We where able to clean and save one the other had to have the print head assembly replaced! So from then on we stayed with OEM ink and No more problems. A few years ago we switched to Epson Photo printers as there ink and paper gave us far superior Photo prints. We have 4 of them 2 are the large format 13 X 19 prints and these 4 printers run all day and part of the night doing Photograph sets for Youth Sports Photos. Now I tried again with some great Non-OEM inks and not only did the quality of the prints suffer greatly! But after 2 or 3 print jobs the printer started streaking to the point that you could not even see the photograph! I cleaned the print head and flush the Non-OEM ink out and put the OEM ink back in and had to run almost 1/4 of the new OEM ink through cleaning etc. and finally got the printer working as it did before we tried the Non-OEM ink. That was my experience and that was enough.
Now if your printing on regular sheet paper it might be OK I don’t know for sure and I don't think I'll try it, But maybe its the type of printer As I’ve seen in the notes in this "Q" that a lot of users that have HP printers are NOT having any problem? Maybe the Aftermarket Inks are more compatible with HP's OEM ink? I can't say, but we even tried using HP and Cannon Photo paper in our Epson’s and it was terrible! Ink splats, streaking, even puddles of ink! Went back to the Epson Photo paper and everything was fine again?
I know and agree that the OEM ink is priced WAY too High! I mean a few years ago everyone was buying these Lexmark Ink jet printer for like $49.95 on sale and some people would use them till the ink ran out and then buy another new printer and sell the empty one for $50.00 and just kept going through them printers like that for almost a year as the ink for that printer was like $70.00 Bucks It was crazy! But sadly true.
I have found some Very Reliable sellers on eBay that I buy my Epson Inks from now and they are in the U.S., and I buy in quantities of like 4 to 6 full sets of inks at a time for just about the same price as buying 2 OEM sets from Epson so you may want to try that and see if you can find your inks there for about half the price. I only buy from sellers that have the OEM ink in the Epson Vacuumed sealed separate packs Just like you get in the store and I have had Absolutely NO Problems with these eBay Store Inks! I have seen ink on eBay for all the major brands of printers and that might be worth NOT taking the chance with them refilled Inks? For my money and my Clients satisfaction it's a win, win deal and may save you from a lot of frustration and possibly a broken printer? I know a lot of friends that mostly print on Plain Paper and they been using refilled inks or them external ink tanks for a very long time and have not had any problems? But again there using HP Printers? So? That's my 2 cents; I hope it helped you some. Good Luck and take care.
Merlin289
Cartridge Refills
by mike collier - 7/11/09 5:01 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have a Canon PIXMA iP5000 printer and have used ink refills for some time now, so far no problems with the printer and printed documents and photographs look fine.
Re manufactured and Refilled Ink
by gbaron - 7/11/09 5:02 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have always used HP Printers. One reason is the head is part of the cartridge. I have used re-manufactured cartridges often and never had a single problem. I will continue now since the obscene price increaser of the 56/57 pack from 64 to 84 for 2 black and one color even at Sam's Club where the re-manufactured is just 28 for one black and one color.
Use The Real Thing
by Flatworm - 7/11/09 5:08 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
While it is not likely that off-brand ink will actually do permanent damage to your printer, it is also not impossible.
But one major difference between off-brand and refill cartridges and original manufacturer's ink is the quality and consistency of your output, which varies significantly with off-brand ink cartridges.
A second major difference, and this relates directly to value even if output quality is not an issue for you, is that you can almost always depend on getting more copies out of an original manufacturer's cartridge than from an off-brand cartridge, and the difference can be so high that your per-page printing costs actually turn out to be higher with the refilled cartridges.
Furthermore, ink cartridges contain circuitry to monitor their ink levels and sometimes, as with many HP modelss, for other more complex purposes. This circuitry is not particularly robust because the cartridges are designed for one-time use only. When this circuitry fails the cartridge becomes useless, and you have to hope that the store where you bought it accepts returns.
Another point is that you can get rebates for returning spent name-brand cartridges at some stores, notably Staples.
Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. It's a good idea when dealing with ink cartridges to pay for the real thing.
Third-Party Inks and Refills
by faxonpr - 7/11/09 5:09 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I only use third-party inks in my inkjet printers, and actually utilize continuous-flow ink setups. If you buy ink from the same non-oem vendor, you get the same repeatable colors, but much more cheaply. As an amateur photographer, I care about my prints, and want the highest quality, but cost is important as well. There are a number of cfs manufacturers out there. If you do much printing, I highly recommend that route.
I made a Bad Choice trying to save a little cash on 3rd part
by lvincent45 - 7/11/09 5:13 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have had an HP Inkjet5740 for a couple of years and have always bought HP color and black ink cartridges. A few months ago I was one of several thousand unemployed and was rapidly working on an updated resume and used a lot of ink. I went to Office Max since my usual store for great prices on the cartridges, Circuit City, was no longer. The price for a duel ink cartridge pack was staggering so I sought the "recycled and re-inked" Office Max brand of replacement cartridge duel packs that contained my color and black cartridge numbers.
Installation went well and I was up and running on updating my resume. However, two weeks, almost to the day, I received an "on screen error" that my color cartridge is "experiencing a problem" and was advised (by HP software) to remove and replace the cartridge in the printer. I did and the same error popped up. After rebooting the computer and cycling power on the printer a few times with the same reoccuring cartridge problem I SHELLED OUT THE CASH FOR A NEW COLOR AND BLACK HP CARTRIDGE.
I never experienced a dramatic printer problem but HP printers definitely do not like 3rd party refilled ink cartridges.
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