Peripherals: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills?
- 7/17/09 2:48 PM
There's a reason for that....
by AlbatrossUK - 7/18/09 12:27 PM In reply to: And how mad is this. by Mooly01... which is that you will probably find that the cartridges supplied with it are not full capacity - I'm not certain, but I'm sure I've heard of this happening and my own recent experiences with an Epson suggest that the new cartridges I have bought for it have lasted longer than the ones I got with it.
Having tried remans etc, I tend to stick to OEM now - I had all sorts of problems with a couple of printers following using them. If you can get a trusted source maybe it's worth it, but tbh I value the ability to get reliable printouts higher than the savings from using third party ink. So far my experience of the latter is that it's a short term gain, long term loss; your mileage may vary, but for me it's a no-brainer.
OEM Inks v 3rd party cartridges
by jon.hedge - 7/19/09 4:45 AM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges by veganmarkI have a Canon Pixma MP 110 3 in 1 & a Canon Pixma iP1500 printer I always buy 3rd party cartridges, Phoenix (USA)which cost me £3.50 for a Colour & a Black cartridge To buy OEM inks would cost £20.00 for a pair!!! I don't use refill kits & the 1 time I had the supplied cartridge refilled, It didn't work. The downside of the Phoenix ones are that the yellow is not as sharp as Canon's. I originally had a Lexmark with my 1st computer (Supplied Free as part of the package) but I could buy a NEW Printer for the price of a pair of OEM Lexmark Cartridges.
Third Party Ink Cartridges
by jfd513 - 7/10/09 7:30 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Through trial and error I have been "burned" numerous times using third party ink cartridges. I have finally found a third party brand that I have using for the last two to three years in three different printers with absolutely no problems. The company is Carrotink.
THE SOLUTION TO INK CARTRIDGE SUBSTITUTION !
by terryblount - 7/10/09 7:31 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have a Lexmark X3580,which is very hard to fool,I've tried re-filling originals,but the results were not satisfactory(plus I got into serious trouble with my Wife,after getting ink all over)I resorted to buying very cheap(so-called compatible)cartridges off ebay.(waste of money)I then found a supplier(on ebay)that supplied very high quallity cartridges at exactly half the price,plus they were high fill & lasted longer.The printer accepted them,with NO allignment problems & were superb.the link is http://www.printerbasics.com Email;customerservices@printerbasics.com I recomend this supplier and apart from offering FREE p&p,their after sales is excellent,TERRY
Dont Replace your Cartridge
by jim442 - 7/10/09 7:31 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I received the standard printer (HP) generated msg-replace cartridge,and the graph showing the very low "remaining life"-I have done nothing-for about 8 months. Continued to print color with no problem-after the graph shows no remaining life,for months.
My conclusion is that the printer and cartridge makers are a conspiracy to get owners to buy (expensive) unnecessary cartridges
Jim
Dont Replace your Cartridge
by sandsurfer13 - 7/18/09 1:53 PM In reply to: Dont Replace your Cartridge by jim442I've had that experience. I just wait until the printed page looks like I've run out of ink - I don't pay attention to the "out of ink" messages HP sends. I think their message is a crock.
Using compatible ink
by vegas339 - 7/10/09 7:33 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have an HP Photosmart C4280 AIO printer and have been using compatible ink purchased on Ebay for over a year. Not only does it work great but I have saved a ton of money. I say give it a shot and see what happens. If it works for you, the savings can be very significant. Good Luck.
I like Cartridge World - a lot.
by dazap - 7/10/09 7:36 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have purchased numerous reloads from Cartridge World with only one bad one which they traded right out, no problem. Their prices are reasonable compared to the inflated ones from both HP and Canon. There are various locations here(Vegas) and one right down the street from my home. I will continue to use their service until they (if ever)do me wrong.
Ink carts
by bigjohnl - 7/10/09 7:36 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Well, I've used cheapo carts in an older HP with no problems. I am now using cheap stuff in a Canon I-455 with still no problems. About (4 years now).
The newer printers are more sensitive to the wrong recipe inks. I guess that is due to the higher resolution print heads, (finer spray pattern, I would say).
If this all makes sense, I hope it answers the question.
OEM vs. 3rd party Inks ....
by Watzman - 7/10/09 7:44 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
A long time ago (more than 5 years ago) there was an article in "The Wall Street Journal" that chronicled HP's development of ink for a then-new printer. There is MUCH more to ink formulations than meets the eye, or than casual observers would expect.
I have a very simple rule: In those printers where the "ink cartridge" is a disposable combination of ink and printhead, I will try refilling or 3rd party products. For the most part, the worst that can happen is that you have to throw out the non-OEM cartridge and buy an OEM cartridge.
However, in those printers where the "ink cartridges" are just tanks of liquid ink being fed to a permanent or semi-permanent printhead .... stick with the OEM ink cartridges. In these printers, an incompatible ink can destroy the printer. That risk isn't worth it.
u r rite
by srtools1980y - 7/17/09 8:50 PM In reply to: OEM vs. 3rd party Inks .... by Watzmanu r 100% rite
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Obscene Cost For HP Ink Cartridges.
by joelb662 - 7/10/09 7:48 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
This is a very troubling subject. Troubling because I try to be very careful how I treat my tools and equipment, thereby insuring the longest possible service life.
Years ago, I kept hearing that the only printers to buy were HP printers, simply because "they never break." When the time came for me to buy a printer, I opted for an HP Deskjet 952C. Cost was a bit high, but I saw them all over the business environments I was exposed to every day. Ink carts were costly, though. Something like $17.00 plus tax for a cart containing 42ml of black ink. There are 5 milliliters to a teaspoon, so the volume of this cart was at least respectable. Then I bought an HP 3-in-1 printer, scanner, copier - HP Photosmart C3180. Got a great deal. On sale for $60.00. Imagine my horror when I discovered that a replacement cart contained only 5ml of ink, and cost almost $20.00. Proportionately, at that rate, a cart for the 952C would have cost about $160.00! (Containing 8 times the volume of ink.) In short, (maybe too late by now) HP is charging roughly $550.00 per gallon for the teaspoonful of ink in the cart for my Photosmart printer. I am a bona fide believer in the free enterprise system, but that is disgraceful!!! I therefore buy refill kits for $11.00. HP can take advantage of someone else!
Compatables and refills can be OK
by murrays - 7/10/09 7:49 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am currently using a Canon Pixma iP4200 (2 or 3 yrs old) and had an i850 before that. Have always used aftermarket ink. The 850, I could refill my tanks at big savings, the 4200 has tanks with chips in them which make them harder to refill, so I buy "compatable" tanks. No problems, great results. I buy them from thInk4ink out of Prescott, AZ and have since about '97 (bought refill ink from them for an Epson 600 then). There was once a problem with a bad batch of refills, but they did more than expected to make it right. My view is that if you buy from a good supplier, and not just at the lowest price, you'll get good stuff.
Low Ink Message Displays
by andyfz - 7/10/09 8:07 PM In reply to: OEM inkjet cartridges vs. third-party ink cartridges and refills? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Last month I purchased 2 remanufactured cartridges for my Lexmark All-In-One Printer. Included in the package containing the cartridges was a small yellow slip advising me to ignore the Low-Ink message that comes up on the printer's display each time I print a page. This requires an extra step to get rid of the message so the page can print. This advice was not on the Webpage from which they were ordered. Otherwise they were very economical and the print quality is OK. This might be unique to Lexmark printers???
What's that extra step?
by PumaSpirit - 7/17/09 10:16 PM In reply to: Low Ink Message Displays by andyfzI have the same Lexmark printer. Just bought it today because I had an Epson for 3 month and am ready to toss it, as far as I can throw it, because of the ink level issue and not being able to print when Epson decides it wont let you. Ink seemed to disappear at an alarming rate as well and their ink is a fortune at $13 plus tax for EACH color (3). I print 20 business cards and a few of pages with SOME color on it (such as a receipt with a colored logo) and need more ink. (Yeah, right!!!)
So, what is that extra step to stop the Lexmark from nagging us about low ink levels?
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