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by Slikkster - 6/22/09 12:43 PM In reply to: IMO there is nothing logical or quick about the Ribbon. by minimalistKind of like having to spend time learning the latest multiplayer game. Darn it! The keyboard shortcuts are different! They should all look the same!
I don't want to live in a world where every software app is always going to follow the same menu structure ad infinitum. At some point, you have to update it. And, some people will moan and groan, while others say "it's about freaking time!". From my reading, there does appear to be a split. I'd say, though, that the people who have taken the time to learn the Ribbon by and large tend to like it.
About the only thing I can agree on with this switch is that they should have provided a way to opt back to classic mode. But the very cheap (and even free) add-on I linked to above gives you the best of both worlds. You can stay within the classic structure in the Menu tab, or use the Ribbon, itself.
Consistancy is vital, yes
by Nicholas Buenk - 6/22/09 8:58 PM In reply to: IMO there is nothing logical or quick about the Ribbon. by minimalistIt is the most important thing you need for an easy to use system.
But don't you tHink the menu, toolbar paradigm just was not serving an app as complex as micrsoft office well? The menu was a maze of commands and sub-commands with multiple lays of dialogue boxes under those...
The menu and palette system ties it all together.
by minimalist - 6/23/09 6:25 AM In reply to: Consistancy is vital, yes by Nicholas BuenkIts what makes using Photoshop and Dreamweaver not all that different (at a root level) than using Autocad or Quark Express. Good UI design should be simple to get into for the casual user yet have depth for the power user. Office 2007 fails on this account in my opinion.
The analogy to games might actually be appropriate but not for the reason you might think. When you look at how huge an industry casual gaming has become you understand the appeal of simplicity. People love these kinds of games because, unlike the games for the hardcore players, they are easy to get into and the controls are simple and intuitive.
2007 UI superior? Not Really
by stringboy - 6/22/09 11:31 AM In reply to: nup by weevil_I have used it for 2 years and it has been depressing. The main problem is you can't have multiple ribbons visible at once, and, when you tab to another ribbon, thinks move.
What is maddening is it MS could not see fit to allow for the old menus (not new menus incorporating new parts of Office 07) and claiming at the same time as more user friendly. Not for an experienced user.
It's Progress...
by n74jw - 6/28/09 5:48 PM In reply to: MS OFFICE 2K7 HATERS UNITE by AHDAHDIn Microsoft's eyes, anyway. If I were on the office 2007 team, I would have made a provision to revert back to the previous version's UI. The vast technical differences between the two office platforms prevent this, but it would not have been impossible to facilitate. Hell, they are Microsoft, they can do this if it were in their interest. Making their latest office product easy to use for everyone should be amongst their priorities, but it is not.
Microsoft is in the midst of a decline in the market space. Poor product releases and a lack of true understanding in the consumer space has steered this course. Soon the enterprise will be next...
I also find the Ribbon UI nice and neat and much cleaner to use, but that is me. 90% of the folks I talk to about it, hate Office 2007's UI and sluggishness. For example, the default menus in MS Access 2007 contain the top features I regularly use in the database. I never have to go any deeper in the menus at all. That is at work where someone else pays the licensing for this ridiculously priced suite. If the aquisitions were up to me, we would all be running OpenOffice 3.
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