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Microsoft "Natal"
by corezz - 6/4/09 12:34 AMI was watching the E3 and i dunno about the Natal but it does look intersing IF it is real and not vaporware...
Do any of you think it is a good idea to invest into Microsft and buy some stock? I found a stock site at: http://www.stockcoupons.com/ that gives stock coupons that i might use to open a stock account and buy some MS shares.
Natal seems more like "Minority Report" than any other UI...
by shmody - 6/4/09 4:55 AM In reply to: Microsoft "Natal" by corezzNatal seems more like "Minority Report" than any other UI...
The Playstation motion controller is pretty cool too...and may be better considering the accuracy of the handheld device and the tactile experience...
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Microsoft stock
by Slikkster - 6/4/09 5:06 AM In reply to: Microsoft "Natal" by corezzInteresting that you brought that up, because there does seem to be a bit of a sea change going on in Redmond these days. They actually seem to be listening to customers and also seem to be doing some very interesting R&D. Windows 7 appears that it will be very popular and much needed post-Vista. They're going after Google with Bing...while the results of that remain to be seen.
I'd like to see them do more to slap down Apple over the ridiculous Mac/PC ads, but I guess their thoughts are "why dignify the ad campaign with a response?" I know they've done some of that with the "I'm a PC" ads. I'd like to see more. Nevertheless, I like the awakening I see there. And it's about time.
Stock
by Renegade Knight - 6/4/09 11:47 AM In reply to: Microsoft "Natal" by corezzUm...
I wouldn't. Here is why. Microsoft dominates a shrinking market. Computers that were upgraded every 3 years because newre bigger and better came along that made it worth upgrading. Now, I've got 5 year old computers that run todays games. All of them have color, high resolution, and do the job. Thus I don't need ot "Invest" in a new OS every 3 years, it's now 5 and only becasue it's on a new computer. That's 2/5 less market for their product as equipment cycles last longer.
Word 2003 works as well as 2007, which will work about like 2010. Who needs to upgrade?
Natal is a motion control device for a game platform. At best it will compete against Wii and PS3. Worst case Apple, Sega and another will jump into the console ring. Unless MS sells them all this gizmo it's only going to be one player in a field of motion control players.
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by Slikkster - 6/4/09 12:52 PM In reply to: Stock by Renegade KnightWho would want to compete against the Wii, anyway? It's only the most popular game platform out there. And hey, who would ever need more than 640K of ram?
Personally, I don't expect that any of the major players are just going to sit around trying to figure out how to make bigger and faster desktop computers. That's today's paradigm, not tomorrow's. I expect the players to branch out both vertically and horizontally.
I'm pretty sure MS knows they can't count on MS Office and Windows OS's forever. Same for Apple.
Whether to buy a stock not only hinges on current performance, but guesses about the future, as well as whether the stock is underpriced right now.
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by Renegade Knight - 6/5/09 12:22 PM In reply to: ?? by SlikksterYour disagreement (the scarcastic part) is exactly my point. I wasn't saying they shouldn't compete. Only that they will have to compete and won't own the market the way Apple owns MP3 players.
Owning the market isn't necessary
by Slikkster - 6/5/09 4:08 PM In reply to: ??? by Renegade KnightIf there's money to be made, marketshare isn't the be all and end all. You're talking about millions upon millions of dollars up for grabs. Having a share of the pie --if even a minority share-- is still potentially quite lucrative.
You brought up Apple, and if I recall Apple doesn't exactly have a majority share in the PC and/or OS market. But I'm thinking they're making money on Macs.
The sarcasm's all in fun, btw. No offense intended.
Micrsoft is entirely funded by their monopoly
by Nicholas Buenk - 6/5/09 6:49 PM In reply to: Owning the market isn't necessary by SlikksterOn Windows and Office. Which they hugely overcharge for.
This allows them to spend so much on their online services, xbox, zune etc. They only bother with these because they know future of windows isn't certain and that online services is where all the new money is.
Overcharge?
by Slikkster - 6/6/09 6:02 AM In reply to: Micrsoft is entirely funded by their monopoly by Nicholas BuenkThe core worth of anything in this world is what people are willing to pay for it. That's always the answer to the question "what's that worth?" It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. So, given that Microsoft is doing quite well with Office, even though there are FREE and *nearly* fully-compatible alternatives, I'd say they are charging what they should be.
By the way, your overcharging comment could easily be applied to Macintosh PCs. They use the same industry-standard parts inside. You're paying for the supposedly "cool" factor and the styling, I guess. But, you're paying a boatload more money for those machines. Some people seem to think it's worth it, though.
Well
by Nicholas Buenk - 6/6/09 5:08 PM In reply to: Overcharge? by SlikksterI don't believe Macs are overpriced, they just pick higher end components.
But the fact is, when there is a lack of competition, there is no downwards pressure on price because consumers aren't able to pick anything cheaper. Microsoft has taken full advantage of this.
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by Nicholas Buenk - 6/4/09 5:20 PM In reply to: Stock by Renegade KnightWindows 7 looks like it will be a popular OS and therefore a popular upgrade. So in the short term, which is what stocks are about, Microsoft is probably a good buy.
Microsoft "Natal"
by wizkids32 - 6/4/09 2:23 PM In reply to: Microsoft "Natal" by corezzI am calling Vapor Wear on this it might be hard to make and how is going to really work no one really knows.
I'm waiting for...
by fbbbb - 6/6/09 9:21 AM In reply to: Microsoft "Natal" by corezz...the most entertaining accident as a result of what comes out of this Natal technology.
"Man in hospital with ______ through 42-inch plasma" etc
I guess that would qualify as...
by Slikkster - 6/6/09 10:01 AM In reply to: I'm waiting for... by fbbbb"Postnatal" care.
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