Home audio & video: What Happened to DVD/HDD Recording?
Recorders in the USA
by bearvp - 5/8/09 8:36 AM In reply to: What Happened to DVD/HDD Recording? by simpleuser01DVD/HDD Recorders aren't very popular in the USA because of how people have adopted DVRs with their television viewing. DVRs are more intuitive, easier to learn, and more available from content providers than DVD Recorders. Also, the days of recording shows on VHS to watch down the road are over due to hulu.com and Netflix. Add in the ability for some DVRs to offload their saved content to PC's or external Hard-drives and the usefulness of DVD recorders really is diminished.
walmart HDD
by winniepoah - 5/8/09 8:45 AM In reply to: Recorders in the USA by bearvpwalmart also now has the magnavox 2160a HDD/dvr in stock for $249 on their site to store.
Just got mine my eamil that it is in, but I have not picked it up yet
Some people have trouble finalizing the dvd on it I have heard at avsforum.com
It seems like...
by Pepe7 - 5/8/09 9:53 AM In reply to: walmart HDD by winniepoah...there are other issues with those players as well if you poke around more @ AVS. IMNSHO, it's a function of the margin being too low to really make it less than worthwhile for Funai (etc.) to produce a more reliable machine. The costs would outweigh the accounting benefits of writing the less quality/current production models off as lemons/returns/etc. It all boils down to the fact that if we were all more willing to pony up more $$ for better quality products (non-walmart, mind you) this sort of thing would not happen as often.
-Pedro
Actually they are!
by simpleuser01 - 5/8/09 8:33 PM In reply to: Recorders in the USA by bearvpEvery time Wal-Mart get the odd Philips machine in, it fly's off the shelf!
The reason they're perceived not to be popular is because no one can buy one!! DVR's, (save the Philips machine), are the only option people have right now!!
In order for a DVR to work, Any DVR, you have to have a subscription to some service, be it cable or satellite. I understand that the older TiVo machines would work stand-alone, but the newer ones require a subscription.
I'm thinking about the poorer folks such as myself. I can't afford cable or satellite. I will not do business with BrightHouse cable anyway, they are a crooked company, way overpriced, and refuses to work with their costumers. Another story.
I want to be able to record off an antenna onto a hard drive to either be watched later or burned to a dvd. Simple as that!
Most of the stuff I record just gets watched at a later time then deleted. Some stuff I keep.
The point is, there is no subscription service involved!!
You can't do that with a DVR.
Found Upcoming Problem...
by simpleuser01 - 7/5/09 10:05 AM In reply to: Actually they are! by simpleuser01I've got my Philips up and running, but I see another problem coming. A problem that is deliberately caused by the industry!
First, let me say that the difference in a DVR and a machine like the Philips, is that you can dub shows you want to keep onto a DVD, whereas with a DVR, you can't!
Now, I'm finding that some shows that I record on my HDD has a block on them which prevents them from being dubbed to a DVD!!
THIS IS THE REASON THAT HDD/DVD RECORDERS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE HERE IN THE USA!!
It's as I've said from the start of digital tv. The main reason for digital tv is to control that pesky record button!! They could not do that with analog, now with digital...THEY ARE DOING IT!!
It just started way sooner than I expected, and in ways which I did not expect.
Most shows that I record can still be dubbed to a DVD for keeping. However, more and more shows have some kind of block which keeps my < dubbing > tab grayed out!! There's also a symbol of a DVD with a line through it on the thumbnail!!
I was in Wal-Mart the other day, and I noticed that there was not ONE DVD recorder for sale!! Every machine was just a player!!
This is the end result of digital tv.
I've been recording shows since the middle 80's. Now the industry is out to stop ALL recording!!! Soon we will not be able to keep Any shows!!
Break out the old VHS with a converter box!! Even then, I bet that you'll run into that old "picture in - picture out" bit, making even vhs recording imposable!!
Congratulations to the TV Industry!! You've shut down home recording, (except for DVR's which can't be dubbed.)!!
My solution...I just won't watch any shows that I think I might want to keep. Therefor, I won't know what I won't have...and I won't be buying any DVD releases either, because I won't be familiar with the show! Tell that to your marketing people!! I won't see your commercials either!! HA!!
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