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"HD wankers"? Oh, come on Molly.
by minimalist - 5/7/09 8:36 AMHow can anyone who gushes about her 360 dollar etch-a-sketch that collects overpriced digital books (books that can never be resold and are forever locked inside a single company's ecosystem) have the nerve to mock people who simply like to own their favorite movies in the best possible quality audio and video without being tied to a single manufacturer's hardware or proprietary DRM?
Lets just say you like your expensive niche toys and we do too. The Cloud is turning out to have just as many (if not more) drawbacks as physical media it purportedly replacing.
Non USA too
by aMUSICsite - 5/7/09 8:41 AM In reply to: "HD wankers"? Oh, come on Molly. by minimalistNot to mention the 90% of the world that lives outside America where the digital only options are not as good and little shiny discs are the main/only option.
Isn't blueray...
by paintguru - 5/7/09 3:21 PM In reply to: "HD wankers"? Oh, come on Molly. by minimalist...a single manufacturer's hardware?
Nope
by scrawledinwax - 5/7/09 3:40 PM In reply to: Isn't blueray... by paintguruSony probably have the most to lose/gain with Blu-Ray but, just like DVD, it's an industry-wide tech. iTunes 8.2 apparently will support it too, although that's just a rumour for now.
Blu-ray is a format, just like DVD.
by minimalist - 5/7/09 9:50 PM In reply to: Isn't blueray... by paintguruDozens of manufacturers make the players and pay a licensing fee just as they do for making DVD players or even mp3 players. Formats breed consumer confidence and thus mass market acceptance.
Until companies come together and decide on an industry wide format for digital downloads, get rid of the intrusive DRM, and broadband gets treated impartially like a utility by ISP's with conflicts of interest, downloads aren't going mainstream.
ios
Yeah
by Nicholas Buenk - 5/7/09 5:20 PM In reply to: "HD wankers"? Oh, come on Molly. by minimalistMaybe she should try not sitting a while away from the screen!
I agree
by Anon1980 - 5/7/09 10:56 PM In reply to: "HD wankers"? Oh, come on Molly. by minimalistI don't understand their fascination with digital download and their need to rubbhish other technologies that are out there.
The number of issues with digital download stretch from the need to have a broadband connection (which is not the case for a lot of people in the us let alone the world), the need to have a home server if you have more than one tv (US average 2.24 per household). Then you have the issues of DRM and also how the studios have changed content (see the added graphics and scenes in star wars, the new hope) even if you want the original content. Also there is the issue of cost as aside from netflixs, which is a subscription model every other model, if you take out buy is one where they charge around $5 per rental per movie.
Broadly there is also the issue with BOL where they are putting down cutting edge technology for something that is just good enough. I would love to see Brian cooley rubbish a 2009 Aston Martin DB9 as too good and so its only for wankers and camrys are all anyone needs. Even better they have been showing the pitfalls of hybrid cars (and so they should) but they look at digital downloads as filled with potential for the future and give it a 'free pass' for all the many pit falls in it and rubbish the best audio visual media as been 'old tech'. I think they need to have a look at their presuppositions about this and the need to even insult all people who have it.
Here's the thing...
by paintguru - 5/8/09 4:45 AM In reply to: I agree by Anon1980As Molly stated, we are getting more to a point in society where everything is instantaneous. Getting your email, searching for something online, etc. We have started to move away from physical media, which mostly started with music and iTunes. I can't imagine buying a CD anymore. And here is the thing, most of the sound quality on the current music (and for sure all the earlier digital music) was lower quality than CD's. Most people didn't care because they could store their entire library on an iPod and get a song instantaneously if they felt like it. That is how they are looking at digital movie/TV downloads. I agree that the technology isn't there yet, but the problem is, why would anyone pay so much more money for a physical format where the only change is the picture quality? That would have been like a company coming out with a higher quality CD format in the midst of the iTunes startup. Most people out there are perfectly happy with their current DVD quality and are much more interested in having instant viewing than 1080p picture quality. Hence the small amount of sales for BR players.
Because video isn't music
by minimalist - 5/8/09 6:33 AM In reply to: Here's the thing... by paintguruThey are two very different beasts. And the perfect storm of events that brought us so quickly from CD's to mp3's is just not in place for video.
CD's were easy and quick to rip (DVD's are not... at least outside of geek circles). Music files took up very little space (video files take up a lot). Music is something you listen to all day long doing all sorts of activities and its been that way for decades. Because it requires close attention, movie watching is a lot more stationary activity and thusly has been a lot harder to peel away from the living room TV. People still prefer to watch video in their living room.
Maybe blu-ray will become as dominant as DVD, maybe it won't. But if you are going to judge a new technology on early sales alone you'd have to conclude that digital downloads are even a bigger failure. Both Blu-ray and Digital downloads sales are dwarfed by those of standard DVD's.
Well actually
by Nicholas Buenk - 5/8/09 10:15 PM In reply to: Because video isn't music by minimalistIn the 90's and the napster era. CD's would take about an hour to rip with the slow CPU's. And would take similar to download over dialup. But this was fast enough for many people. Still faster and easier than the postman or a store.
Then the technology improved and it became mainstream.
Same thing is already happening with video, streaming etc.
Just a matter of time.
There is no way the inconvenace of physical media is going to win out. Especially as you can get excellent quality with 1080p at around 10mbit. Which will stream over existing cable and fibre broadband.
1080p streaming? Not over my connection...
by ericbtx - 5/12/09 10:51 AM In reply to: Well actually by Nicholas BuenkYou can get 1920x1080 streaming video over the Internet at a 10 Mbps data rate? Where? (Certainly not from Netflix or Hulu...)
Also, my Internet connection comes over 30-year-old cable lines, and I can't get over about 2 Mbps. So even though some (very limited) HD streaming is available to me via Netflix, I can't use it because my Internet connection just isn't fast enough. I'm sure plenty of people out there must be in the same boat...
(Yes, I recognize I could download HD video instead, but (A) I haven't seen any that is 1080p with 5.1 sound yet, and (B) downloading an HD movie with my current net connection takes hours...)
Can get that sort of video off pirate bay
by Nicholas Buenk - 5/12/09 2:53 PM In reply to: 1080p streaming? Not over my connection... by ericbtxAs usual, the media companies will eventually catch up to the pirates. 
And start streaming it too.
Pirate Bay
by ericbtx - 5/12/09 3:05 PM In reply to: Can get that sort of video off pirate bay by Nicholas BuenkThe pirate bay isn't streaming it, are they? It's still something you have to download, and that would take hours for me. (Not to mention the illegailty of it.) That was my point... I don't deny that it is technically possible, but it won't be convenient for most consumers until home Internet speeds and/or storage space catch up...
That's what I'm saying too
by Nicholas Buenk - 5/12/09 3:22 PM In reply to: Pirate Bay by ericbtxBut it will happen. And faster than most people think.
interesting point about music...
by Anon1980 - 5/8/09 5:15 PM In reply to: Here's the thing... by paintguruI think that Jason Howell gets his music via CD (given his comments on various shows about what bit rates he would rip them for if he was ripping them) and that is due to his love for good music. I also get CD's instead of digital downloads as in a lot of cases they are actually cheaper and they have better quality. Because Jason gets the better quality music does that make him a Audio wanker? I think not it just means there is a group of people that appreciate quality.
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