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Windows XP: Want to to back to IE7

by LAG - 5/2/09 6:26 PM
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Want to to back to IE7

by LAG - 5/2/09 6:26 PM

I'm running Windows XP SP3 and downloaded IE8 last night. I've been reading up on the various problems others are having with it, I am experiencing a very slow computer, freezing and for the first time ever, a Dr Watson Postmortem Debugger.
I am a little 'technically' challenged so it's difficult for me to know which advice in the threads to follow and also how.
Having XP SP3....am I able to return to IE7?
If so, would it just be an uninstall through Add/Remove Programs?
Would it revert automatically back to IE7 once uninstalled or does IE7 have to be reinstalled?
I'd really appreciate any help, thanks.....

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For the most part

by Jimmy Greystone - 5/2/09 9:30 PM In reply to: Want to to back to IE7 by LAG

For the most part, IE8 is going to be forced upon you like it or not sooner or later, so you may as well get used to it.

That being said, I can almost guarantee that your problem is related to a malware infestation since you say you're "technically challenged" and obviously use IE. A recipe for disaster to be sure.

Bad news is, the damage is likely already done and simply going back to IE7 wouldn't solve anything. Good news is, is that since you likely have to format anyway (or at least it's the fastest way to get back going again) it's an excellent time to make some changes to the way you do things. I'll include my list of suggestions in a moment.

You should consider educating yourself above the "technically challenged" level. Not saying you need to become an expert, but you should be able to do some basic troubleshooting. Just like it's a good idea to know how to do things like changing the oil in your car (even if you don't do it yourself) and check/add a few other vital fluids, it's a good idea to know a few basics with computers as well. So, consider taking a night class, or reading a book (just nothing with "Dummies", "Idiots", or "In <time period>" in the title. Those books are, almost by definition, dreadful. I'd suggest something by O'Reilly publishing, but Que is also usually pretty good for technical books. Consider something like "The Missing Manual" series of books. If not a book or a class, then just start experimenting on your own. And whatever you do, make absolutely sure that you learn the how of searching using a search engine. You'll save yourself a lot of time and effort if you learn to effectively use a search engine when you run into a problem you don't know how to fix.

Now, without further delay, my tips.

TIPS FOR A SMOOTH RUNNING SYSTEM
================================

The more of these suggestions you follow, the fewer problems you should have. They won't solve any existing problems you have, but if you follow them all you should be able to avoid virtually all problems in the future.

Things you should NOT do
--------------------------------
1: Use Internet Explorer (1)
2: Use any browser based on Internet Explorer (e.g. Maxathon and MSN Explorer)
3: Use Outlook or Outlook Express (2)
4: Open email attachments you haven't manually scanned with your virus scanner
5: Open email attachments you were not expecting, no matter who they appear to be from
6: Respond to spam messages, including using unsubscribe links
7: Visit questionable websites (e.g. porn, warez, hacking)
8: Poke unnecessary holes in your firewall by clicking "Allow" every time some program requests access to the Internet (3)
9: Click directly on links in email messages
10: Use file sharing or P2P programs
11: Use pirated programs

Things you SHOULD do
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1: Use a non-IE or IE based browser (4)
2: Always have an up to date virus scanner running (5)
3: Always have a firewall running (6)
4: Install all the latest security updates (7)(8)(9)
5: Delete all unsolicited emails containing attachments without reading
6: Manually scan all email attachments with your virus scanner, regardless of whether it's supposed to be done automatically
7: Copy and paste URLs from email messages into your web browser
8: Inspect links copied and pasted into your web browser to ensure they don't seem to contain a second/different address
9: Establish a regular backup regimin (10)(11)
10: Make regular checks of your backup media to ensure it is still good (12)

Being a considerate Internet user & other misc tips
----------------------------------------------------------
1: Do not send attachments in emails (13)(14)
2: Do not use stationary or any other kind of special formatting in emails (13)
3: Do not TYPE IN ALL CAPS (15)
4: Avoid texting speak or "l33t speak" (16)
5: Do not poke the sleeping bear (17)

Notes
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(1) Sadly sometimes this is unavoidable, so only use IE when the site absolutely will not work with any other browser and you cannot get that information/service anywhere else, and only use IE for that one specific site.
(2) Outlook and Outlook Express are very insecure, and basically invite spam. The jury is still out on Vista's Windows Mail, but given Microsoft's history with email programs, extreme caution is advised. Possible replacements include Mozilla Thunderbird, Eudora, The Bat, and dozens of others.
(3) When it doubt over whether or not to allow some program, use Google to find out what it is and whether or not it needs access to the Internet. Otherwise, denying access is the safest course of action, since you can always change the rule later.
(4) On Windows your options include: Mozilla Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera, Flock, Chrome, and Safari. I would personally recommend Firefox with the NoScript extension for added security, but it the important thing is to pick one and use it instead of IE.
(5) AVG Free and Avast are available if you need a decent free virus scanner
(6) XP/Vista's firewall is probably good enough for 99% of all Windows users, but other options include ZoneAlarm, Outpost Firewall, and Comodo. If you have a router with a firewall built into it, there is no need for any of the aforementioned firewalls to be running.
(7) Microsoft's usual system is to release security updates every second Tuesday of the month.
(8) Use of Windows Update on Windows operating systems prior to Windows Vista requires Internet Explorer, and is thus a valid exception to the "No IE" rule.
(9) Service packs should ALWAYS be installed. They frequently contain security updates that will ONLY be found in that service pack.
(10) You can go with a full fledged backup program, or simply copying important files onto a CD/DVD/Flash drive.
(11) I'd recommend a tiered backup system. For example, you might have 5 rewritable DVDs, and every day you burn your backup onto a new disc. On the 6th day, you erase the disc for Day #1 for your backup, and so on so that you have multiple backups should one disc ever go bad.
(12) Replace rewritable CDs and DVDs approximately every 3-6 months.
(13) These dramatically increase the size of email messages (2-3X minimum) and clog up email servers already straining to cope with the flood of spam pouring in daily.
(14) If you want to share photos with friends/family, upload them to some photo sharing site like Flickr or Google's Picasa Web and then send people a link to that particular photo gallery.
(15) This is considered to be the same as SHOUTING and many people find it to be hard to read along with highly annoying.
(16) Unless the goal is to make yourself look like a pre-adolescent girl, or someone overcompensating for their gross inadequacies, and you don't want people to take you seriously.
(17) Most REAL hackers are quite content to leave you alone unless you make them take notice of you. No dinky little software firewall or consumer grade router is going to keep them out of your system. So do not go to some hacker website or chat room and start shooting your mouth off unless you're prepared to accept the consequences

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IE8

by sirpaul1 - 5/4/09 7:51 PM In reply to: Want to to back to IE7 by LAG

First of all, if you're using Spybot, turn OFF "Immunization". (if not, turn off your AV and try IE8 for a minute or so - IE8 has security built in that may conflict with your current AV) Running IE8 for a few minutes should cause no harm. Just don't go to a suspicious site. (you know what I mean!) Also remove any 3rd party toolbars (Google, Yahoo, etc.) That should take care of the major problems.
You should be able to to Control Panel/Add-Remove to uninstall. And if IE7's not there, you'll have to reinstall, although I HIGHLY recommend Firefox!

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Thank you Sir Paul

by LAG - 5/4/09 8:21 PM In reply to: IE8 by sirpaul1

re: the previous answer to my post, I am technically challenged somewhat but not a dummie.
I don't have Spybot, does Spywareblaster need to be disabled as well?
Just one question please.
'If' I uninstall IE 8, wouldn't IE 7 still be there? If not, how can I reinstall Firefox or anything else without a browser?

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Problems With Posting The Same Thing Twice

by Grif Thomas Moderator - 5/5/09 8:31 AM In reply to: Thank you Sir Paul by LAG

It's tough for you and us to keep track of your other responses regarding the same issue.. It would help if you kept all posts in the same thread.. As to your questions here, please see my response at your other post.. Here's that link:

http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6142_102-0.html?messageID=3038405&tag=forum-w;forums06#3038405

Yes, SpywareBlaster also has an option for "Immunizing" which causes IE8 to slow down considerably.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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