Hello!
I've finally come down to this two models. I hear the HF20 has more noise than normal due to it's smaller 1/4 Cmos. The HF11 on the other hand has a bit larger Cmos which means less noise, more detail. The HF20 has 15x optical zoom. The HF11 only boasts a 12x. The HF20 carries a DIG!C DV 3 on board, this year's processor. The HF11 has last year's processor, DIG!C DV 2. I would not be using camcorders for Photography at all, so features like "face detection" don't appeal to me much.
Is the noise of the HF20 too much for a consumer? Is the extra 3x's of zoom worth it? Is their enough advantages of the HF20's DIG!C DV 3 that compelling?
The newer image processor is a big factor in how the overall image turns out. The longer zoom would be nice as well for those far-away shots. The more light you can have in a dimly-lit room, the result is better image quality and less noise.
3x zoom wont mean much because they shortened the focal length as well as lengthened it, so it wont be very noticeble
Canon is well-known and highly-regarded reputation for optical excellence, advanced image processing, superb performance and technological innovation, built on legendary photographic and broadcast television lenses.
The Canon Vixia HFS100 has a:
Dimensions - (W X H X D) 2.8 W x 2.7 H x 5.4 D
Filter Diameter - 58mm
Flash - Built-in
Focal Length f=6.4
Image Stabilization - SuperRange Optical
LCD Screen - 2.7-inch Multi-Angle Vivid widescreen color LCD
Max Shutter Speed - Movie 1/2000, Still image 1/500
Recording Media - SDHC Memory Card
Total Pixels - Approx. 8.59 Megapixels
Video recording system - MPEG4-AVC / H.264
So maybe i'll choose this one..
I would get it if I could. Much larger senor! But much larger price!!!
Thanks to everyone for all the inputs in avsforum and across the internet, especially camcorderinfo.com, testfreaks.com,camcorder-test.slashcam.com and other sites like vimeo, for all the efforts people have taken to post the screenshots, MTS and/or MPG files for comparisons.
I ordered the HF11 online for $700. I then went to Best Buy and with their permission, compared it with both HF20 and HFS10 display models with exactly the same settings (60i).
I focused specifically on the home theater section of the Best Buy which was very dimly lit.
I was surprised at how way superior HF11 was. There is absolutely no confusion now in mind that HF11 beats both HF20 and HFS10 when it comes to this aspect. camcorderinfo.com's reading of HFS10's low light noise is better than HF11, but in reality, HF11 doesn't seem comparable at all. I don't know why though. I am convinced there is a clear reason why camcorderinfo.com rated HF11 the best of 2008.
Hope this helps others. I know HF10/HF100 would have been a more economical choice but I only found HF11 available in reliable(no headaches) stores at the moment.
I don't know if it is normal but HF11 seems to be generating a bit of warmth to sometimes bordering hot/heat, not sure if this is normal for HD camcorders especially the ones processing at 24mbps. Anyone has any inputs on this? Is this normal? Early response is appreciated as I have 14 days to exchange it for a different piece if it is not normal.
i got this camcorder 4 days ago, and all that i can say - awesome! i have browse for some reviews and i found it
if you need some additional info about Canon HF20 camcorder - you can go to http://hf20.net - it helps me to make right choice
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