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Windows 7: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS
- 4/17/09 3:39 PM
Windows 7 for me.
by Gare35 - 4/10/09 9:40 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I'm not a techie...just a regular user. I have Windows 7 on my laptop. Have had no problems, system is rock solid....and the video is like HD, compared to regular TV.
huh...
by DamageIncM - 4/10/09 9:54 PM In reply to: Windows 7 for me. by Gare35What does it have to do with video-quality?
Any video you play on anything is as good as the video itself.
win 7 beta
by mg150023 - 4/10/09 10:17 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
1.8 core 2 duo 4gig memory sata drives with win7 installed except for pinical tv card everything is working correctly
boots faster than vista 3 core 2 duo 64 bit 8 gig memory had all the trouble finding drivers mainley web cam tv cards etc
but with win7 on a 2.8 core duo in live com all works without a setup
i an waiting for the full release to come cannot say more
vista was ME all over again but can live with vista it all ok Vista was and is good with movies photo's ect
as i had said cannot wait till the final release for win7
yours freezeframe
It's not bad... For a BETA...
by Wolfie2k5 - 4/10/09 10:39 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been running build 7000 - the official beta build - since January. My impressions of it are that it's better in many ways than Vista. For the record, I am probably one of the few people out there who actually liked Vista when it was released. But Windows 7 - the beta blows it out of the water. It's snappier. It's generally a bit faster than Vista and possibly even XP.
I'm also going to go on the record and say that Win 7 isn't Vista SP2 or SP3 or whatever. Nor is it What Vista Should Have Been. Vista is Vista and Win 7 is Win 7. To say something like that, it's like saying XP is what Windows 2000 should have been. It wasn't. It was a different OS. Sure, there were similarities. But one was Windows 5.0 and the other was Windows 5.1.
And as such, so is Windows 7. It's a new OS.
So is it something you should run out and buy? Well... There's the rub. It's still in the beta stage. The release candidate hasn't yet been released. So at this point, it's impossible to say what the final shipping version will be like. So yes, your question is rather premature.
As far as new features go... The first thing you'd notice would be the task bar. The old model that's been around since Windows 95 is gone. If anything it's more like the Apple OSX Dock. You have applications you use frequently "pinned" to the taskbar (kind of like the old Quick Launch bar), but these also function as the place you'll go to when you've got one running. For instance, if you've got an open instance of IE, you'll be hovering the mouse over the same icon you probably used to launch it. What's different, each tab and window will have a thumbnail sized version of the open app so you can move the mouse over to that instance and go directly to where you want to go. It's fairly cool and a lot more usable in many ways than the old way of doing things.
Speaking of the old way... "Classic Mode" - where Windows does it's best to emulate a Windows 95 style taskbar - is gone. Period. It's not coming back. Be prepared to learn the new system and like it.
Is it better? It takes about 2 minutes to learn how it works and maybe a week or so to get used to it. Once you've got past that, it's not a problem unless you really, really got to have the old style menus and such.
UAC is different. It has different levels of notifications. Instead of just having an "On" and "Off" setting, you can set how intrusive it will be.
The sidebar - where your gadgets reside - is gone. Gadgets now reside directly on the desktop (in essence, only the bar itself is gone. Sidebar.exe is still there, however.) Some Vista gadgets don't work at all on Windows 7. Some work better than others.
There are also a number of old time Windows staples (Windows Messenger, Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, Outlook Express/Live Mail, etc...) have been removed completely from Windows 7. Why? There are two popular theories behind this - to reduce the footprint for Windows 7 would be one, the other has to do with being a preemptive strike against anyone who's thinking of suing Microsoft for unfair competition as they have over Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer. These apps have been replaced by Windows Live Essentials - which is a collection of the previously mentioned plus some others like the Windows Live Writer - a blogging tool.
Additionally, the big news is that Internet Explorer can be "deactivated". There are those who think that this is a good thing and others who think it doesn't go far enough. Personally, I don't have a problem with IE - I use it most of the time. But hey, that's just me.
The reason it can't be completely uninstalled is simple. Instead of reinventing the wheel, many of Windows and other Microsoft apps make use of the HTML rendering engine. That starts with the Help system, Windows Live Essentials apps, Office, etc... If the rendering engine was removed, none of those apps would work properly. So Microsoft is compromising by disabling access to IE without removing the HTML rendering system and such.
Devices are also handled in a slightly different and better way. The new Device Stage offers a more uniform platform for handling different peripherals. This feature isn't fully finished at the moment. Much of that will have to do with the makers of said peripherals coming up with the appropriate drivers and such to make them work as a Device Stage object.
Have no fear, however, if your peripherals work with Vista, the odds are they'll work just as well with Win 7. The driver model hasn't changed much. Of course, this is good for everyone - vendors don't have to do much to make their devices work with the new OS and there won't be a lot of hardware orphaned by a lack of drivers.
Apps... If they work with Vista, odds are quite high they'll work without too much of a hitch with 7. There are some apps that may not quite want to work, but they usually can be coaxed by using compatability mode.
So will you really REALLY need to go out and buy Windows 7 when it becomes available. That's a really tough call. My crystal ball doesn't quite work that far out. But if Microsoft keeps going along the same lines as they have with the Beta, I'm fairly sure that it'll be a worthy upgrade. Will I personally upgrade? More than likely. I don't have much choice. In my line of work, I need to have a working copy of all operating systems I support handy so I can help people out.
Windows 7
by basil0550 - 4/17/09 9:46 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5Its a very good vesion more comfortable than all others icluding Vista
beta beta?
by richteral - 4/17/09 11:42 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5I hear MS went back to beta testers, asking them to start from scratch again. Obviously there would be a reason. That so?
windows 7
by dave_2001 - 4/18/09 4:28 PM In reply to: beta beta? by richteralI am a current bete tester of windows 7 and I never heard anything about starting from scratch and retest the version. Those that are running windows vista then you would have no problems upgrading to windows 7 those running windows XP you will have to chack your hardware, such as video cards and modome cards
BUT, how bout XP
by Walking Dude - 4/18/09 3:36 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5you talk about how everything that works with vista @ apps and periperals, will work fine with win 7......but i heard WAY to many complaints ABOUT vista, so i have stayed with XP Pro....so how will the peripherals/apps from XP/XP PRO convert to win 7?
W. XP
by afro2358 - 4/18/09 5:19 PM In reply to: BUT, how bout XP by Walking DudeI have Vista Home collecting dust on my desk. I took it off my Dell XPS Gen 3,3.40GHz,with 3.00GB of RAM about 3 years ago and went back to XP, and i will stay with XP until MS stops supporting it, and by that time, i would guess (knowing them), MS will have a Newer OS.
See these as well
by Dango517 - 4/18/09 5:27 PM In reply to: mmm... by FrankQCFirst about the fine print:
http://search.microsoft.com/Results.aspx?qsc0=0&q=Windows+Vista+Downgrade+Rights&mkt=en-US&FORM=QBME1&l=1&x=9&y=11
see "Reference Sheet - Windows Vista Downgrade Rights" here
You can dual boot your hard drive after paying for a new XP edition
or you could:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/overview.mspx
then there is always this:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx
?
by FrankQC - 4/18/09 5:31 PM In reply to: See these as well by Dango517I'm not sure how that is relevant to what I wrote haha, I was saying when XP was going to stop the extended support (2014)
OLDER HARDWARE DEVICES
by mike53_1999 - 4/18/09 4:16 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5I had to revert back to Windows XP due to the fact the some of my devices would not work with Vista. Will I continue to have this problem with Windows 7. One item in question is DVDXpressDX2 produced by Adstech WWW.adstech.com
Yup. Absolutely.
by R. Proffitt - 4/18/09 4:20 PM
In reply to: OLDER HARDWARE DEVICES by mike53_1999
Unless the hardware maker steps up then count on old hardware continuing to find no support with each passing version of Windows.
-> Just wondering. By now isn't this issue well known? We've seen this over 2+ decades from Dos 1 to Windows 7. The story is the same, just a few new players.
Bob
OS X
by rashidtem - 4/19/09 7:39 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5Well, you have mention one similarity with OS X. I wonder what else is similar to OS X. Apple is also coming up with the Snow Leopard. How does Windows 7 look compare to upcoming Snow Leopard. If you have not experience Snow Leopard, just shed some light on the comparison. Vista was a blatant copy of Apple OS X Leopard. I wonder how similar things gonna get now. I wish they could also copy the virus protection and stability of Leopard.
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