Computer help: Sharing entire library- does something like this exist?
Sharing entire library- does something like this exist?
by 9dosus - 4/18/09 1:39 PMI'm constantly sending my friend music, and the process of creating zipped files and folders and then sending them gets a little tiring (although I love sharing with her).
Is there some sort of program that could give her access to my entire music library (and only music) whenever she wants, wither by listening or downloading. I have a little over 100gb of music and there's always more coming, so uploading my collection somewhere is sort of out of the question. Or is this wishful thinking?
What music?
by MarkFlax
- 4/18/09 2:12 PM
In reply to: Sharing entire library- does something like this exist? by 9dosus
You may find that an odd question.
What I am asking is, is this music you are sharing to your friend copyrighted, eg professional CD albums?
If so, I have to stop you there. Such sharing, even on a small scale, would still be subject to copyright rules and that is something we cannot discuss in these forums.
Sorry.
Mark
Ok...
by 9dosus - 4/19/09 7:14 AM In reply to: What music? by MarkFlax
Let's try it this way then. I'm a music journalist who's sent promos for reviewing daily (both physical and digital copies). I would like to share this music with employees who review the material. The volume is too great to upload the folder to a website and update it regularly. Obviously, the artists and labels have given me permission to share this music among my employees, as that's the point, and copyright is a non-issue. It's much easier for me to say I want to share the music with a friend than to explain my entire situation, but there it is.
Now, is there a solution to my problem?
The problem is that although ...
by Edward ODaniel - 4/19/09 9:17 AM In reply to: Ok... by 9dosusyou state "Obviously, the artists and labels have given me permission to share this music among my employees", we have only your word for that and while NO ONE is calling you a liar it is well established that Dillinger, Ted Bundy, the Manson kids, etc. all proclaimed their innocence of wrong doing too. In my time I personally have NEVER seen persons offering intellectual properties for review (such as books, music, plans, schematics, etc.) grant free distribution to others.
The thing to do, IF you do have "permission to share this music among my employees" (and I do note that somehow the "my friend" mentioned in the first post now becomes "my employees"), is to contact these people sending you the promos and explain your situation and get them to add your "employees/friend" to their mailing list so they get copied in on what you get.
That second paragraph is the best advice we can offer without violating CNET policies as well as our own.
Really?
by 9dosus - 4/19/09 1:57 PM In reply to: The problem is that although ... by Edward ODanielI said in my second post that I said "my friend" instead of "my employees" at first because it was so much easier to just say "my friend" instead of explaining the whole situation.
So if I understand what you're saying correctly, I'm guilty of copyright infringement until proven innocent (by the way, you're welcome to send me a message and I'll pass on the link to my site, just to save myself from the gallows)? Why do you help people with their computer problems at all? After all, they may want to use the computer for purposes of copyright infringement.
Labels and artists send promos to the publication for use by the entire publication. There is no record label around that sends promos to every single journalist/reviewer at a publication.
Seriously, can no one answer this question? I've been so nice about it, I thought, and even explained my motives. I had no idea people at CNET were so distrustful and combative. Over to one of the Gawker sites for an answer, I guess.
Looks like CNET is due for a review. After all the site does offer music-related downloads, making it appropriate to my site. But I am very disappointed.
And...
by 9dosus - 4/19/09 2:01 PM In reply to: The problem is that although ... by Edward ODanielThank you for comparing me to mass murderers like Bundy and Manson. What did I do exactly to deserve that?
RE: Bundy and Manson ...
by Edward ODaniel - 4/20/09 5:47 AM In reply to: And... by 9dosusIf you read what I said again I was NOT comparing you to them but simply expecting that you would grasp the idea that the guilty proclaim innocence exactly as do the innocent. I could have used the names Tom Schmidt and Terrance Brown as the known guilty parties (instead of Bundy and the Manson Kids) but honestly now, would you have recognized them for who and what they were?
You said that you used friend and employees interchangably because it was simpler than explaining the whole situation - possibly explaining the WHOLE SITUATION would actually be simpler BECAUSE we wouldn't have to ask so many questions nor would we be so hampered by a lack of detail. We have personal and business ethics we abide by and a lack of total openness does tend to create suspicion wouldn't you agree?
I too am a bit disgruntled that CNET makes P2P apps available through their downloads but they have opted to do so on the premise that the ones they offer do also provide for legitimate file sharing and they leave it up to the downloader and end user whether they use the app for legal or illegal sharing.
I did offer a suggestion which you apparently didn't care for (your option) and Kees suggested making them available on the company network which you also "shot down" and then he offered the suggestion that making the files available via FTP or VPN which you didn't respond to yet. Mark also posed some thoughts for you that are good but you haven't responded to him yet either.
None of us are accusing you of being a criminal but we are explaining why we are not going to come out and say use this app and set it up like this and your problem is solved BECAUSE of the chance that the problem is really just starting.
Again, sorry if you really thought I was "comparing" you to Bundy or Manson but that indicates that you didn't understand what was written -
The problem is that although ...
you state "Obviously, the artists and labels have given me permission to share this music among my employees", we have only your word for that and while NO ONE is calling you a liar it is well established that Dillinger, Ted Bundy, the Manson kids, etc. all proclaimed their innocence of wrong doing too. In my time I personally have NEVER seen persons offering intellectual properties for review (such as books, music, plans, schematics, etc.) grant free distribution to others.
We are not lawyers who presume innocence, we are businessmen who MUST carefully look into gift horses mouths at their teeth to verify worth.
Assuming your employees ...
by Kees Bakker - 4/19/09 2:13 PM
In reply to: The problem is that although ... by Edward ODaniel
are connected to the same company network as you are (that's a common situation, you'll agree with that), just put the files on a shared server. Problem solved.
Kees
No...
by 9dosus - 4/19/09 2:33 PM In reply to: Assuming your employees ... by Kees Bakker
We're not connected to the same network, there are several of us all over the country. There's a newly popular program called Sockso that does what I'm looking for, but it involves tinkering with ports and is a bit complicated. I was hoping for something that might be simpler. Right now my process goes something like this:
I have a database of all albums/releases that need reviewing set up on a webpage that is password protected. All employees have this password. They look over the (extensive) list, choose what they want to review, then send me an email with the choices. Then I have to zip up those choices and send a package via Pando (if the person has that program) or, failing that, something like YouSendIt. It's a long process, as I get more employees (and more labels on board), even longer (hopefully after reading this you'll understand why I simply went with "my friend").
I really need a way to streamline the entire process, and thought if there were a way to give them access to the files directly from my computer it would be easier on everyone all around. I had no idea this would turn into a witch hunt where I'd be compared to some of the most vile men in history, and right off be assumed of copyright infringement.
By the way, I really do appreciate you trying to help.
Re: giving access
by Kees Bakker - 4/19/09 11:23 PM
In reply to: No... by 9dosus
Seems like a perfect case for setting up an FTP-server in your head office. All your employees can access it password protected via their browser and download what they need.
Implementing a VPN network would be a good solution also. In a few moments I'll work via VPN and terminal server on my company's application server and do exactly what I would do when at the office.
Time to invest in IT if your company needs it. And it's tax-deductable if it's business!
Kees
Addendum.
by Kees Bakker - 4/20/09 5:59 AM
In reply to: Re: giving access by Kees Bakker
Using a VPN it's still possible to access the local hard disk to copy files to, as told in http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/877319/howto_copy_local_files_to_remote_desktop.html
Then, for example, you could use Sharepoint or another CMS of your choice to browse through the music libary.
A third alternative is custom-made website, using a webserver at your head office. This can be password protected also, but doesn't need a VPN.
Kees
SInce I was the one who first replied with doubts
by MarkFlax - 4/20/09 2:20 AM
In reply to: Sharing entire library- does something like this exist? by 9dosus
I feel obliged to return and reply to some of the points you raised.
I am not sure how Bundy or Manson arrived into this conversation, but I understand your frustration.
You are right that the CNET parent site does review and offer as downloads P2P utilities. CNET makes the point, with such P2P as Limewire etc, that sharing of copyrighted files is illegal, (watch CNET video reviews), but for my own part, and that of others in these forums I suspect, I would wish that CNET didn't even offer those utilities. Aside from the legal aspect, (look at what has happened to the Pirate Bay founders in Sweden in this last week), we all too often have to help users deal with the problems such usage causes with virus infected files. But we are volunteers in these forums, and have no say in the matter.
We are attuned to, and alerted by, members who post questions of a similar nature, and that is why I brought up the question of legality in my first reply.
I don't know the answer to your specific request, I am not a file sharer and neither am I technically minded. But I have some thoughts.
1] How do your competitors deal with this problem?
2] As a professional business, you need to look at your systems and procedures and decide a proper business plan for conducting your business.
3] You already have a system in place of transporting 'physical' copies of music to your reviewers. Is that a method that can be employed for digital copies, eg burning to CD/DVD and transporting those?
4] You need to check with your legal department that what you are doing is not going to cause you problems in the future.
Mark
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