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Windows 7: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/17/09 3:39 PM
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Post 16 of 241

Not true with later builds

by ezeuba - 4/17/09 11:14 PM In reply to: THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT by shaliko1

I had a similar issue with the build 7000 beta (the official release from MS). However, with later builds which were leaked on the internet, things got better. ALL my programs run well, and in compatibility mode if I choose. I am running build 7077 and I can say that it is the BEST OS yet from MS. I wonder why they even gave us Vista when they could make something like Windows 7???
Try this build 7077 (which you can get if you search for it) and see if you will still complain.
Cheers...

Post 17 of 241

beta

by azBob111 - 4/18/09 1:19 PM In reply to: THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT by shaliko1

dude its a beta

Post 18 of 241

Window 7

by gidergodt - 4/17/09 8:48 PM In reply to: W7 looks promising by Robocoastie

Hello i tried Windows 7 Beta , and for me it was a nice experince everything worked fast and perfekt . Idid only experinced a few minor problems (some missing drivers )And that was okay for a beta version. So i am looking forward to try the full version. So if you wan´t a program that seems to bee a cleanet up vista thats easy to to run and use then i can recommend windows 7 ( if the full version is as good as the beta version.

Post 19 of 241

64Bit

by John Howell - 4/19/09 3:40 PM In reply to: W7 looks promising by Robocoastie

Wrong to assume 64 bit for all Win7 clients - Atom is not 64 but, my HP Tablet is not 64bit, and these are viable platforms for Win7.

My findings using the beta for a week, it is faster on current corporate gear, so 1GB ram is OK, but of course it flies well with 2GB, no matter what the CPU is. My test was with a 1.8GHz dualcore Intel, which can slow down to 1GHz dynamically on battery, I did notice much better battery life under Win7 than with Vista, but suspend/resume brought back problems with wifi not reconnecting.
Boots much faster, colt to desktop in under a minute. Over 2minutes 7 seconds for my laptop under Vista.

The new task manager is pretty good, but gets cramped really quickly on a small screen.

Still has all of the old baggage of all Windows relaeases - patch management is painful, with initially randon delays on startup and shut down while patches completed their installation process. Annoying when you might have only 2 mintes of battery left, and you shut down to find it is trying to install a patch, or startup being delayed in a similar way when you just need to boot quickly in a meeting.
And it it still reboot city for installing many services and applications.

Overall, I will try and get Win7 to replace vista on my work laptop ASAP as it is much better than Vista, however for my real work (Managing webservers, switches, routers and networking equipment) I will still be using Linux, and for home I still have my Mac (which as long as bootcamp supports Win7 will also get updated - but only to enjoy the faster boot times. Lower requirements for memory will make it a better candidate for my Virtual machines too over tinyXP.)

Post 20 of 241

Stick with Vista

by Precede - 4/10/09 6:29 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you are already running Vista and are happy with it, I see no reason to upgrade to Windows 7. Windows 7 will have some nice user interface additions and some business features that Vista lacks, but I hardly think those features are enough to upgrade from Vista to W7. Windows 7 would be a good opportunity for the millions of people that didn't upgrade to Vista.

I've tested Windows 7 and it is a nice OS. However, I will recommend all my customers that are already using Vista to stay put.

Things to look out for in W7.
1. The final release will probably include Internet Explorer 8. Many websites aren't ready for IE8.
2. You may experience lack of driver support for some of your existing hardware & software. This is the main thing that gave Vista a bad name. However; this is a problem with slow implementation of driver updates by third party hardware/software companies, not Microsoft's.

Hope this helps.

Post 21 of 241

Windows 7

by clhd - 4/11/09 10:04 AM In reply to: Stick with Vista by Precede

HUGE mistake! Win7 will be and already is a superior product to Vista. Better driver control and program compatibility better GUI and most of all better hardware handling. Win 7 is probably the best version of Windows yet and I've used them ALL!

Post 22 of 241

Windows 7

by HermanatorIII - 4/11/09 12:08 PM In reply to: Windows 7 by clhd

I have used the Windows 7 Beta on my machine with an Intel Celeron D 356, with a Gig of memory, and because I have used every version of Windows since 3.0, (except 2000, which sucked), I can report that Win 7 is the best version yet. None of the constant security pop-ups, and software conflicts that plagued Vista. A nice GUI that can be adjusted downward to increase performance, and a smooth, intuitive feel that should suit users both advanced and basic. The only problem I had, was when I needed Acrobat 9 to do my taxes, it wouldn't work with "7", so I used my XP machine to do the work on my business bookkeeping.
I'll buy It in a heartbeat!

Post 23 of 241

2k

by Born2B - 4/12/09 3:07 AM In reply to: Windows 7 by HermanatorIII

If as you haven't used win 2000 How can you tell it bad ?
Many of my bussines Customers sware by it wil not change to
Vista or Xp until somthing better like Win 7 comes along.

Post 24 of 241

Hey born2b

by HermanatorIII - 4/14/09 1:08 PM In reply to: 2k by Born2B

I did "try" 2000, and serviced several business computers that used that OS, that's how I can say "It Sucked".
I also realize that business users found it reliable and some continue to this day. That said, I found it bland, slow, and ugly, but that's just me !

Post 25 of 241

Win 2000 Pro Seems to be Quite Good

by brianlevyesq - 4/19/09 7:35 AM In reply to: Hey born2b by HermanatorIII

I do not know why you think it sucks. Maybe you could be more specific. I just resurrected an old Compaq N610c and decided to load 2000 Pro as I never really used it and out of the box, it installed easier and ran quicker than when I had XP on the laptop. It has not crashed not hung up and drivers have been easy to find.

I decided to also load it on a Dell Dimension 8100 that I tried XP on and found it ran like a slug, especially coming up and shutting down. With 2000 Pro, it is running well and seems less twitchy then the XP.

The only limitations I've come across are that IE only goes up to 6, Windows Media player will not upgrade to 10 and hence Activesync while loading and running will not convert MP3 files for loading to my MS 5.0 based PPC. It is not an issue as I do not use the phone to play music anyway.

The office network was easy to set up on it, actually easier than with XP.

Also, it takes only a gig or slightly more to install leaving plenty of room on those old 40 gig hard drives.

I never really used 2000 Pro as I went from 98 to XP when I built my new computer back some years ago and now wish I had tried it first. Admittedly, the limitation is that while the updates are currently still available off the MS site, they are slated to be withdrawn in the not too distant future I understand.

I'm hoping that Win 7 will be lean enough to mount on these computers eventually.

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"it bland, slow, and ugly"

by ahtoi - 5/25/09 2:32 PM In reply to: Hey born2b by HermanatorIII

I can swore you are talking about my car and not an OS! Give me the low down on "7". Haha.

I have 4 computer in my home, the OS is either 2k, linux, or both.

Post 27 of 241

Windows 2000

by PhilGlantz - 4/19/09 10:21 AM In reply to: 2k by Born2B

I still use it on older machines and think it's most intuitive and most reliable of all windows so far.

Post 28 of 241

2k

by letsshop - 4/23/09 7:54 AM In reply to: 2k by Born2B

Windows 2k worked as good as XP for me......XP had more bells and whistles with a prettier interface, but
both were built on the NT platform!
I stopped using Windows products a few years ago after switching to a Mac and haven't had any of the problems associated with a Windows PC.......I'll never go back! I laugh every time I read the horror stories about new OS problems people are having.......very frustrating! Just my option!

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Constant security pop-ups? Software conflicts? HUH????

by TauLurin - 4/13/09 8:24 AM In reply to: Windows 7 by HermanatorIII

I'm running Vista Home Premium SP1 and I think a few of you have much to learn about it.
Don't take offense, I, too, was one of those who said Vista sucked when it first came out, but that was only because I hadn't given it a serious trial run yet.
Spend some more time exploring the different options. You can control the security pop-ups and even eliminate them altogether if you want. The only time I had any software conflicts was due to out-date drivers which resolved itself once the third-parties got up to speed.
Adjusting the GUI Downward to increase performance? That's been an option in every version of Windows I've ever used right back down to 3.0
As for many of the other suggestions I've seen on here so far, 64-bit is NOT an option in my opinion. Microsoft currently REQUIRES (Read as all-caps, all-bold,underlined and italicized -- in other words you don't have any control) driver signing in 64-bit mode which basically tells you that Microsoft doesn't think you are smart enough to decide what to install on your own system.
For the time being, I'll stick with Vista till I don't have much choice anymore which is usually how things like this are finally decided for many of us anyway.

Post 30 of 241

Here here

by Tech Boy Stevo - 4/17/09 9:36 PM In reply to: Constant security pop-ups? Software conflicts? HUH???? by TauLurin

I, too, hated Vista when it first came out. SP1 solved all issues. It is a rock solid performer as XP is.

Damn shame Microsoft rushed Vista to market. The SP1 upgrades should have been done prior to its release.

Oh well - I'm sticking with Vista. Rock solid OS, and runs software even from 1995. Who could ask for more???

My experience?

Windows 3.1: Reminds me of Apple products today.
Windows 95: solid, innovative.
Windows 98: 2nd version the best
Windows 2000: Good luck with finding drivers.
Windows ME!: Great when it worked. Constant reformats when it did not.
Windows XP: Solid.
Windows XP-64: Good luck with the drivers.
Vista: Rock solid with SP1 upgrade.

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