Windows 7: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS
- 4/17/09 3:39 PM
Windows OS
by George Goldtrap - 4/11/09 5:58 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Starting with the earliest, I think I've run all the Windows OS systems made for home office use....and am presently running two XP systems and one Vista. Vista clearly has some good advantages but when it comes to dependability and steady service, I'll take XP any day of the week. less trouble by far.
George Goldtrap
Happy Talk Int'l
Win 7
by Garken - 4/11/09 6:54 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have been using the beta for quite awhile now on my Vista machine. You will not have to upgrade any hardware, it runs flawlessly. Win 7 does a good job of picking up your hardware and peripherals. Win 7 does not have a sidebar, but you can place widgets any where on your desk top and there is no performance hit or quirkyness like in Vista.I most definetly be buying 7 when it is released, it is a lot more stable and easier to use than Vista. The beta on my machine boots in 27 seconds ! IE 8 which comes with Win 7 is faster and pretty much trouble free, even with Vista. I am completely happy with Win 7.
I like it.
by jcoonrod - 4/11/09 7:53 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
To answer some of your questions: in my experience, it works much better than Vista, is less demanding on resources and seems to run fine on any machine that was previously running XP. At the same time, I don't really see any do-or-die reasons to leave XP, so I probably won't pressure everyone to make the change any time soon. The number one reason will probably be to keep things consistent as we buy new machines when they come with Windows 7 installed - it will save us all the work we currently do to remove vista from new machines and install xp.
AOL 9.5 and IE 8 FYI
by MarilynInMiamiFL - 4/11/09 8:06 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Last week I downloaded IE 8 and AOL 9.5 because I kept getting pop ups saying I wasn't using the newest version. WELL what they DIDN'T tell me is that both DO NOT WORK with XP. My PC was messed up for 5 days while people tried to figure out what was wrong.
Finally one guy that had the same problem told me to put back the AOL VR and IE 7 and it got my PC up and running again. Actually my PC runs faster and better than it has for some time. Having to uninstall IE 7 and 8 and download 7 again cleared out whatever was slowing my PC down 
I called AOL and told them what happened. Their response was 9.5 is for VISTA users.... Might have been a good idea to put that on the download I told them. XP has and still does work wonderfully for me and I have no intensions of going to Vista ...... Not sure about the new Windows 7, will wait to see what new users have to say about it.
Windows 7
by eddiej23 - 4/11/09 8:09 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have been beta testing Win 7 for a couple months now, but with no to little experience with Vista, all I can say it is sure to be a good improvement over Vista.
Security-wise: it's promising to be a lot more secure than previous OS's from MS. People will find the security features probably challenging at first, but once learned they will be a lot better.
It has a nice GUI, a LOT faster than XP, and runs quite nicely on my hardware setup. My configuration is a Foxconn MB (648FX7MF&648C7MF), 3.4 GHZ Intel cpu, 1gig ram, ATI X1650 8x AGP Vid card, a 500 gig SATA drive, Wireless network adapter, 2 CD/DVD burners. With this setup I have a rating of 3.2 according to Windows 7.
All-in-all, I'm quite pleased with the direction Microsoft is headed in with this release. I like it very well, and would definitely recommend it.
Win 7 opinion
by toddhager - 4/11/09 8:13 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I had participated in the Win XP release candidate consumer evaluation. At the time I thought that MS had done a fairly good job with stability, security and ease of use. (I ran and offered opinions of RC1 and RC2 and immediately purchased XP Pro on its full release date.) I skipped Vista as I had a bit busier work schedule and didn't have time to poke around with it. (Turns out for me that was a blessing. IMO) With Win7 I have plenty of time and two test PCs. First machine is an old Lenovo A31 notebook with the barest minimum of the required hardware, (1.6 Ghz P4, 1Gbyte RAM, Radeon 7500 video & 30 Gb HDD) the second machine is a desktop I use as my personal desktop for basic office functions some media and photo editing(3 Ghz P4, 2 Gbyte RAM, Radeon 9500 40 Gb HDD w/320 Gb RAID O "D" drive). The laptop was to see how much of my old hardware would still run and the desktop was to see how Win7 would function with an "okay" setup.
I was amazed that the laptop not only loaded right up but all the drivers loaded as well using Windows Update. Including a somewhat fussy Netgear wireless card and old HP LaserJet 4 Plus. While the aero interface needed to be turned off on the laptop (I expected this) the boot time and performance was no where near sluggish as I expected. In fact I swear that this little PC is faster with Win7 than XP. I only loaded up a bare set of Anti-Virus and applications however so I imagine it could be bogged down after loading up several more applications.
The desktop was more "fun" and while it didn't load up flawlessly there wasn't too much pain. I needed to verify my RAID drivers and download a newer set(Vista based) and changed my Anti-Virus from AVG to Avast (Needlessly it turns out. I also switched to Avast because of my Windows Home Server). The first month or so was a challenge because I would get the BSD twice in the first 15 minutes of the day (a few looks in the logs seemed to indicate that there were some conflicts in the scanning between AV and MS Defender that was setup for after boot up) eventually there was an update from MS and now all is well. This desktop boots up pretty quickly for all the applications I have loaded. (Half the time it took with XP.) Every now and then I will experience a hiccup with IE 8 when I have many tabs open but not very often and I just switch over to FireFox while IE untangles itself and sens a report to MS. Many times I have both browsers open and they seem to be oblivious of each other.
Here is the short list of what I have running on the 2 PCs-
Laptop: Office 2003, Adobe Reader 9, IE 8, Firefox 3, Avast 4.8, and the assorted utilities that come with Win7.
Desktop: Office 2002(XP), All the above plus, Photoshop Elements 2, MS Money 2008, TaxCut, CarChip (program for downloading data from an On Board Diagnostics Reader for my cars) and a few other odds and ends that all run just fine.
A few final thoughts. I'm not a big gamer but will be loading EA's Command and Conquor "Generals" to see what game play is like. ("Generals" isn't the most hardware demanding game out there but like I said I'm not a big gamer.) I expect success but will accept it not being stable since Win7 is still in beta. Also, I have a decent home network. Gigabit wired with Wireless G for the laptops, the ancient HP LaserJet 4 I mentioned previously is network only access, network attached storage(NAS) and an old tower running Windows Home Server. None of the networking is a problem. The printer was the biggest challenge and that wasn't any harder than when I set it up for the first time with the rest of the PCs.
My opinion of this OS is that it has all the bells and whistles of Vista with the stability of 2000. I have loaded both Vista and XP drivers depending on the hardware with little to no problems. Compared to my experience with XP's RC1 and RC2 this has been just short of joyful to experience. I would purchase Win7 right now if it were released as is. For where it is in the build cycle it is nothing short of amazing. I expect however that the later releases will only be better as there is a lot of data being gathered by MS from users/testers.
I am actually putting off upgrading our Media Center PC until I can purchase it with Win7 vs. buying and upgrading a Vista machine. Win7 has brought me 180 degrees from exploring Linux as my home's next OS across multiple platforms to keeping the familiarity and broad compatibility I already know.
My apologies for the rambling.
Win 7 and I.E. 8
by kcilles - 4/11/09 8:58 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am running the win 7 on a mac through vm ware fusion. It loads quickly and has nice functionality. The included tools such as snip, the photo viewer and the movie viewer are all nicely integrated. ie 8 with their fun tool bar includes to much live stuff but is also handy. I don't know about having to upgrade anything because as I said it installed on my vm ware enabled mac. An aside is when I went to print without setting up anything my printer was there when I clicked print. Don't know if this is a feature of vmware or win 7 but a first for ease of printing. I like the new operating system and I will switch over my two remaining xp machines. No vista here.
windows 7 is goodo
by bal_a - 4/11/09 9:32 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
window 7 is better than vista . however the beta version doesnt support some softwares and some drivers also not available . it is quite fast and the graphics are very good .Can switch over to windows 7 . no upgradation in hardware is necessary.
Windows 7 - my opinion
by net2net3 - 4/11/09 9:41 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hello Enrique
I can't tell you wether should you upgrade from W Vista to W 7, because I don't know Vista. I have never used it.
I use XP PRO and I am very much satisfied with it. I find it the most stable OS I've ever used.
As for W 7 I believe in the essays I read about on TECHREPUBLIC.COM and CNET.
Most of the opinions I have read say that there is not much difference between Vista and W 7.
Of course it might be somehow useful the feature of having windows automaticaly resised when yoy strech them in order to see both (or more) at the same time. But I think it is not a major improvement.
Well, let me remind you I am only a home user.
On the other hand, I think that you should only think of upgrading your OS if (and when) you are doing chenges in your PC usage. That's What I did.
I don't I will be upgrading to Windows 7, as I did not upgrade to Vista, mainly because doing so would had obliged me to buy some compatible hardware. (I don't buy new hardware since 2002 or so!)
Windows 7 vs Vista
by jimmomech8 - 4/11/09 9:57 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am currently running Windows 7 Beta Build 7000. Vista 32bit, and Vista 64bit. I do a lot of Photoshop work and Graphic Design which is why I use 3 different hard drives. I also run a Nvidia 9600GT 1GB GPU,780sli MB, 8GB RAM. I also do Gaming when I have my own time. The differences I have noticed between Vista and Windows 7 are:
1. Trouble free operation. None of Vista's "OOOPS I Forgot Something" antics.
2. All files and folders stay where they are and in the same order all the time.
3. Windows 7 in Beta form has accepted every Download and Hardware application I have thrown at it.
4. Glitch free Gaming with the same incredible Graphics of Vista.
I moved to Vista from XP to obtain the Graphics and while I have had to cope with some of the headaches that come with Vista, I learned to work around them and repair some of them. But when it comes down to the Nitty Gritty, Windows 7 is will I will end up!
Microsoft's Perfect Score...
by Launchpad_72 - 4/11/09 10:07 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been using 7 since it came out on TechNet. I've been beta-testing Microsoft OSes for years, and this is the first that I haven't had a single major complaint about, which considering their track record, is pretty impressive.
Originally, I installed the x64 version to be tri-booted with Vista x86 and Ubuntu. That was about three (four?) months ago. I haven't used Vista since. I've migrated all of my programs and files over to Seven's drive, and I've been extrememly impressed. I like the interface, the features, the fact that it all just works.
Let's be clear: I liked Vista. I had been beta-testing that one, too, and it was ok, but it had a couple of gaping flaws; mainly the fact that not a whole heck of a lot worked with it. I loved the areo interface, and some of the new features they added, but it was an ok operating system. It kinda reminded me of Windows Me in a lot of ways: on it's own, an ok OS, but compared to the others, it didn't live up to spec.
I see Windows 7 as what they should have done with Vista the first time around. They added the missing features, they fixed most of the problems, and they scaled back the necessary, but intrusive security protocols. (i.e. User Account Control)
In case you haven't figured it out yet, I'm usuing Windows 7 and IE8 to write this review. I've got WMP and Steam running in the background, and I just finished playing some CS:S. Everything works, better than they did in Vista even, and this is only the beta, it's not even the RC0.
The only problem I forsee with the OS is the retail price. Mirosoft is notorious for offering way too many versions at way too high a cost. Just release *one* edition at a reasonable price (none of this Vista Ultimate for $300) and offer an upgrade to Vista users at a serious discount. After all, was XP Home and Vista basic even worth releasing?
Hope this answers your question!
-IAmTheDonut aka Launchpad_72
windows 7 rocks
by Striker - 4/11/09 10:13 AM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have been using the beta (v7000) since the public release and I think the best way to describe it is that it is everything Vista was touted as being and more. This is definitely worth the upgrade from XP. I also used Vista, without much problem I should add, but I wouldn't say it was better than XP...Win7 is.
Best features, the task bar allows you to close individual windows of an application and see all that are open. UAC can be controlled - no longer all or nothing. there are still a few glitches with UAC but overall this is much better.
the beta is 'Ultimate' edition...and is running all the eye candy on a Lenovo 3000 C200 with no problems...and about half the CPU burn of Vista (less page use too).
Lots more features that really should be tried (the RC is coming soon...maybe this month) so jump on that and give it a go.
the only problem with windows 7 is it just might make you a MS fanboy...but I am willing to suffer that 
. As for will I be upgrading...well money is an issue (we have 3 laptops [2Vista, 1 XP] and 3 desktops [2 XP and 1 Linux] in our family) - but my Vista laptop will be getting it, and probably the XP machines. As I said, Vista was okay...but this is way better.
Windows 7 is structured for the future
by johndouglaselliott - 4/11/09 12:01 PM In reply to: windows 7 rocks by StrikerWindows 7 includes a complete re-structuring under the covers. This enables it to fully take advantage of multiple cores. It will be much simpler to enable applications to take advantage of a large number of cores in the future with this new structure. With DX11, this will also include using GPU cores for tasks other than simple rendering.
I noticed a number of posts about Win7 being snappier. I strongly suspect that this is because it can now really use all cores on your computer. All previous versions were really a single core process, with patches.
No crashes? Many posts also mentioned no crashes. This is also a deliberate result of the internal restructuring. For me, a more stable OS would be reason to upgrade.
HP HDX 18t with Microsoft Office 7 and Vista Ultimate 64
by oxbowrvpark - 4/11/09 12:25 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The HP HDX 18t Notebook was loaded with every option and feature available from HP. The Notebook arrived pre-loaded with Microsoft Office 7 and Vista Ultimate 64.
My first and greatest disappointment was the warning to check for critical updates. This, of course, was done immediately. Updates are lengthy and multi-step, requiring the 1st phase to be completed with an automatic restart that would lead to the next phase and so on.
Critical updates typically consist of three (3) phases. Each phase cautions not to remove power during the update process. This process continued for days. Each time the warning to check for crital updates appeared...there were more required.
Finally after many hours, which turned into many days...there were no further warnings to check for critical updates. Hooray!
The next step was to attempt to install programs. The first attempt to install a program appeared to be very smooth, no error messages and no cautions. A restart was required upon completion.
The restart produced disasterous results...machine lock-ups with no indication how to restart with a previously working configuration. More hours and days are required to recover and attempt to install another program.
After extensive research and investigation, I discovered there are few, if any, programs available compatible with Ultimate 64 at this time.
The decision to attempt to install Windows 7 (which is Ultimate) was perhaps the worst I have ever made. Ultimate 32 may be different but do not make a final decision until you know which programs are certified to run on Ultimate 32.
OxbowFred
Good ?
by limalimon1 - 4/11/09 12:35 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Well I've been running the Win 7 BETA ever since it came out on a new barebone i put together for xmas. Bad thing is and this will probably answer your ? I have to swap out Os's to get the full power and speed of my new system . Why Windows 7 has so many issues still , it hangs all the time, feezes, programs get locked then of course they want you to submit the problem but, dont have the right replies listed on the drop down . Cnet had a story a few months back maybe you can look for it . Like bigger Quik Launch Icons, Aero Peek, and Windows 7 tweak and gadgets for Vista or XP . If you got an xtra computer try it out but if not stick to what you got till it comes out . FYI ust my opinion thats all
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