Windows 7: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS
- 4/17/09 3:39 PM
I ALSO like Windows Vista . . .
by Dan Dalrymple - 4/21/09 12:21 PM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5Wolfie2k5,
I'm glad to hear that you liked Windows 7 beta.
Nope, you're not the only person who liked Vista, I love it. I got it (32 bit home version) with my Dell Laptop and really didn't care for it at first but I've run it now for a couple years I guess and I like it better every day I use it.
Just thought you should know . . . (-:
It's not bad... For a Beta
by vorozcojr - 4/27/09 9:16 AM In reply to: It's not bad... For a BETA... by Wolfie2k5I had to buy a Windows XP Upgrade, because of Beta Testing Vista. I have one Question to ask you. Would Windows 7 run accpectable with chipset 82801DB-L ICH4 from Intel? Windows Advisor 1.0 said my system would work with Vista Basic and Premium. The Advisor should walk the plank, 150 dollar software I can not use.
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Windows 7 Upgrade?
by stormtrooper - 4/10/09 11:07 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Because the Operating system encorporates a boot body, very much an initial Rom Boot setup it looks like a dream to work by and everything that Vista was promised to be. This Rom boot system gets rid of the old device driver search database everytime the PC boots up and delivers on the spot installed devices. That is not saying that that everything is catered for. But this is where the operating systems divide and in someways make themselves incompatible with upgrading from one to the other.
Looking at the User database it seems on the surface that this is easy enough to do but because Vista carries the MCXX databases or Media centre extention databases these carry system properties which may be different to the way Windows 7 interprets them thus you may be losing half your media centre database setup or even corrupting existing system properties encorporating any stored media. There was some initial fixes for this but more recently they have not been forthcoming. Once they have got around these corruptive measures of the media indexing structures and network hang ups I may consider buying but I would never upgrade to this operating system.
The structure is almost foreign compared to Vista. Gone is the Classic view most of us like, it adopts the Vista viewpoint from the start. When you upgrade your new operating system tends to install the things that slowed down the previous operating system. What you should do is to cleanly install Windows 7 from scratch and then add your Media and documentation from a backup. This way you are starting afresh wwith no Vista hang ups or XP hang ups. With less of the Vista interface and more of a Boot kernal that has a good fast boot and reboot standard makes Vista blush. But if you look at Vista and you strip away the rubbish that was installed when you installed it you may say "hang on a second!" In that breathe I would totally agree with you. I have looked through my current install of Vista and found a device driver nighmare. I have an intel based machine and I decided to look through all the services that were not necessary and found 450mb of installed AMD64 services and protocols which were not needed, if anything they were based on the performance rating and nothing more. Overall a total waste of space. If anything Windows 7 has told me how to look at my current Vista Operating sysem more suspiciously. To call windows a kernal with a bunch of drivers is an understatement in my view. And something that would steer me away from upgrading to Windows 7 because MS knew all this years ago and did nothing.
Re: Windows 7 Upgrade
by vibrantjun - 4/19/09 4:51 AM In reply to: Windows 7 Upgrade? by stormtrooperWell, thanks guys for the good advice to wait for better W7. For me, I upgraded my vista into it and its faster a little bit except for some incompatibility issues of programs. For instance, Google Chrome was totally not accepted...other drivers have to be reinstalled like SRS Audio Soundbox. You cannot also change the property of folders from read only which I believe due to encrypting of files.
So far, its an improvement of Vista and the difference is not really worth to buy it for now...unless you got a brand new PC.
It is a souped up Vista.
by blue_theta - 4/10/09 11:26 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I been running the beta for several months and I am not impress with it. Windows 7 has the same features as Vista. It does has a few minor enhancement but they are mainly eye candy (desktop wallpaper changes at an interval you set, etc) My panasonic DVC camcorder (4 years old) is not supported by either Vista or Windows 7 (even with compatibity mode).
Unless Microsoft releases more features that improves overall performace and compatibity; Windows 7 is just a "paid" SERVICE PACK for Vista.
Back ground
by rashidtem - 4/19/09 7:41 PM In reply to: It is a souped up Vista. by blue_thetaDesktop wallpaper changes at an interval has been in OS X for a long time. What's new about it??
Wallpaper Changer
by John Howell - 4/19/09 8:01 PM In reply to: Back ground by rashidtemand Gnome, and KDE have had wallpaper changers.
The window snapping to full screen etc is very reminiscent of compiz under Gnome.
I like Win7's task manager, but will get cluttered very quickly.
If anything...
by FrankQC - 4/19/09 8:07 PM In reply to: Wallpaper Changer by John HowellThe -FIRST- thing that came to my mind when looking at Windows 7's startbar was "wow, looks like KDE"
Windows 7 is a must have... Sort of but completely...
by Cesarjr - 4/10/09 11:40 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Weird title, I know. Let me explain...
Windows 7 is definitely my favorite operating system that I've ever used. Its smooth, fast, intuitive (well, it becomes intuitive if it isn't off the bat). Something to note, I really liked Vista, but Windows 7, in my opinion, is like Neo fighting all those multiple Agent Smiths (Windows 7 is Neo and Vista is Agent Smith); there's a lot more Agent Smiths out there, but in the end, Neo wins. Okay, super lame comparison, but it seemed slightly appropriate.
List of major focal points:
- Taskbar: It now uses only one icon to represent all your open "windows" related to that program. When you roll over that icon, it will show a thumbnail of all those windows. If you roll over THAT, you will get a full screen preview of that specific instance.
- Taskbar (more): Those annoying icons on the right side of the taskbar (the System Tray, I think)? You can control how intrusive they are. If they appear all the time, or only when an action needs to be taken, etc.
- Compatibility: I've seen ZERO compatibilty issues with Windows 7. Any temporary issues I've run into have ALL been solved either through "Run as Administrator" (probably your first option to run to) or the "Compatibility Mode" options.
- Search: I'm not sure what this is due to, but the searches are really fast. Maybe its "Indexing", which I don't know too much about. But still, my searches for files have always been really fast compared to Vista (I prepare taxes to accompany my tech fetish, so I have thousands of files it searches through).
- Networking: Networking options are extremely more streamlined. It keeps and betters some of the new functions from Vista. I expecially like the Minimum-Two-Click connection to wireless networks; its SUPER intuitive. Other options are similar to Vista, from deciding whether the network is Public, Private, etc. I hear Homegroup is really useful, but I haven't used it 
Volume: This is something really small, but now you're able to control the overall volume level and then control the volume level of individual programs. I personally think this is awesome. I'm not sure if this was in Vista.
Library: Another little detail, but I like it! Music, Documents, Videos, and Pictures are all automatically displayed in a location called "Library." Its a very convenient access point. The library can be customized to include any folder of your choosing for convenient access.
Finally, it has access to this thing called the "Internet" that can.... KIDDING! Actually, speaking of that, I personally like Internet Explorer 8. But that's just me.
So, is it better than Vista? I say HECK YES!!!! Even thought I liked Vista, there's nothing like super fast boot ups, wake ups, and everything generally faster and lighter.
Should you go out and buy it as soon as it comes out? Well, that's a little tougher. Well, in the sense that if you need to not feed your kids that month, then you shouldn't buy it right away. Or, if you'll lose your house, well, then you shouldn't buy it either. Or possibly you've just heard the hype and wondering if you just HAD to have it. Well, its not an extreme revolutions. But, if you're like many of us who love having new toys and don't mind light and fast Operating Systems, I would totally go out and buy it right away. Have fun with Windows 7!
PS: Completely off topic, but if you like to laugh, you NEED to watch this video of an SNL Skit featuring Blue Oyster Cult's Don't Fear the Reaper: http://www.for-those-about-to-rock.com/funny/cowbell.htm
independent volume control
by darrenforster99 - 4/11/09 12:06 AM In reply to: Windows 7 is a must have... Sort of but completely... by CesarjrIndependent volume control for each program is already in Vista.
Upgrading to Windows 7...
by darrenforster99 - 4/10/09 11:58 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I also am a bit intrigued by Windows 7, however as with all newly released OS's I would strongly advise to wait at least a year before upgrading to it.
It is highly likely that when Windows 7 is first released despite the numerous beta testing that Microsoft will be doing at the moment there will be quite a lot of hardware that wont work and still quite a few bugs.
You are best to wait on upgrading to it until at least the first service pack is released (SP1). You will be fine until then with Vista, Microsoft and all other manufacturers wont suddenly abandon Vista the minute Windows 7 arrives, it will take at least 2-3 years before this happens.
In the past this has always been the case - when Win95 was first released it was full of bugs, until Win95 Second Edition was released which was a lot better (the only problem with this was that this was before the days of upgrading via internet and then you needed to buy another copy of Windows 95 if you'd rushed out and bought the first edition), the same thing happened with 98 (there is 98 first edition and 98SE, 98SE 98SE includes extra hardware support like USB2.0 and Wi-Fi which isn't included 98 first edition despite them both being the same OS).
The only one that was totally forgotten and abandoned in the mysts of time was ME because it was that rushed to get it out for the millennium and was an unfinished version of XP.
XP when it first came out had a lot of bugs in it, didn't work with a lot of hardware, and had a lot of security loopholes in it. Some of which were fixed in SP1, and then SP2 was a major improvement overall (thankfully though unlike Windows 98 and 95 Microsoft didn't ask customers to buy new copies of XP just to get these additions).
Vista has also been the same, when this first came out there were a lot of security bugs in it, but then SP1 came out and a lot of the problems were fixed and now Vista is a really good system.
One other thing regarding hardware compatibility between Windows 7 and Vista, are you running 64-bit or 32-bit Vista at the moment. If you are running 64-bit Vista you should be ok with most of your hardware in Windows 7. 64-bit Vista will only install drivers that companies have paid Microsoft to authenticate (hence the reason why one of the best personal firewalls - Peer Guardian - doesn't work in Vista 64-bit ), and chances are these companies also have probably already developed drivers for their hardware for Windows 7. If you only have the 32-bit version of Windows then some of your hardware might not be compatible.
The best thing to do though with Windows 7 is to wait, I'm an IT technician and when new versions of Windows come out I don't rush out and install them straight away, I wait because I know full well that the first versions will have a lot of bugs in them that are missed. You are probably best to wait about a year, after the first year you will hear all mixed reviews then about the new OS - like oh we don't like it, it's got this bug in it, it doesn't work with this, and then they will release a service pack, and everyone who has the first service pack installed will then probably be saying this system is so fast, it is really good, etc, but others will be put off by the old reviews that review it before the first SP was released. At present I run Vista 64-bit on my home computer, when Vista 64-bit first came out there was a lot of people saying about major bugs in it and to stay away from it, however now that it's on SP1 I find it to be far better than Vista 32-bit and XP, it was a little bit hard at first to get used to (the missing "Run" button was the worst thing for me until I found out that you can type in the command straight into the search bar and it finds it for you (e.g. cmd) (as well as any document that is indexed on the computer))
Vista to Windows 7
by jam4201 - 4/17/09 6:31 PM In reply to: Upgrading to Windows 7... by darrenforster99I have Win XP on two desktops and Vista on my laptop. I hate Vista.
Will I be able to put Win 7 on my laptop as well?
Thanks
XP is much better
by webkruzer1 - 4/17/09 7:03 PM In reply to: Vista to Windows 7 by jam4201I have six XP machines running just fine.
Not impressed with any of the recent MS OS.
Is this change for the better.... eye candy, and icons?
I hate eye candy and icon craps.
LOVE classic view!
love classic
by lwoodsinc - 4/19/09 6:41 AM In reply to: XP is much better by webkruzer1Classic view is something I don't want to lose, either
Say good bye to classic view
by psharer4062 - 4/20/09 8:27 AM In reply to: love classic by lwoodsincIt is gone no more so you are going ot have to come into the new OS era
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