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by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/17/09 3:39 PM
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antivirures

by junearwood - 4/18/09 5:50 PM In reply to: Sorry NOT TRUE... by REMincks

I am running Windows Vista and bought Windows Live One care to use on it. I went to resubscribe in Febreary and was told that it would only be supported until July when Windows 7 was realease, because it was coming with it's own antivirus program.
June

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Try Avira Antivirus... it's free

by mrcsg3 - 4/18/09 12:08 PM In reply to: Not So Fast On Windows 7 by rabbit122851

I'm using Windows 7 Beta right now-which is great, and i use Avira Anti-virus which works great...definately one of the best.. and it's free.

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if its norton or anything thing else

by darkr - 5/15/09 7:34 PM In reply to: Not So Fast On Windows 7 by rabbit122851

if its macfee or norton then of course anti virus programs don't work under windows 7 because of the new protections that vista and 7 affords to the os blocks the unnessary kernel hooks
avast is a free anti virus program that doesn't gobble the memory like norton does

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(NT) COMODO is also good.

by FrankQC - 5/15/09 7:41 PM In reply to: if its norton or anything thing else by darkr

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Windows 7 Is What Vista Should Have Been

by Chutsman - 4/10/09 7:02 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Windows 7 will be liked by all those who hate Vista. I have tested a number of the several builds and even on my ancient slug of a system (Athlon 1GHz with 1Gb ram) it runs acceptably well. The annoying popups are mostly gone. And there is a fresh look to it.

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Definitely worth it

by caskater4 - 4/10/09 7:03 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I've been running Windows 7 as the main OS on my laptop for the better part of a month now. In fact it's the only OS on my laptop. Here are the major things i've noticed so far.

1. It appears faster. Whether it actually is or not it definitely feels snappier than Vista and thats a good thing.

2. No major compatibilities to report. I've loaded a ton of software (i.e. Adobe Creative Suite, Office 2007, Visual Studio) and a bunch of games and everything runs just fine. The only program I had some problems with was Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre.

3. Better battery life. My battery lasts about twice as long as it did with Vista.

4. Win7 has a new taskbar. You can now pin programs so that they are always visible and programs come up as large icons instead of a small icon and the window title. Basically it feels more like OS X's Dock but more intuitive.

5. It's rock solid. I haven't had a single crash of any kind so far.

Windows 7 doesn't appear to have a bunch of new integrated features as much as a lot of refinement to Vista's offerings. MS has also said that Win7 does not have a higher hardware requirement than Vista and I believe it. The hardware in my laptop that wasn't immediately supported I was able to load the Vista drivers without any issue.

Overall i'm very happy with it. I'm loving the interface changes to the taskbar and several of my friends are equally happy. At least a few of them have made it their primary OS for most if not all of their machines.

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My My

by Joe M. Winters - 4/18/09 4:31 PM In reply to: Definitely worth it by caskater4

I have been using XP-Pro for so long it's hard to believe that there would be a better O/S. I think from the Seniors, you won't see a broad new market for O/S 7. To me if it works don't fix it. If the software folks decide to produce many programs that will not work In XP I will stay where I am I'm 80 years old, and would probably will not last long enough to learn a new program. To all of you younger folks out there I'm sure that you will have a great time with this program. Now that Gates is getting older who will have to deal with the problems "Ballmer". Their not that far apart In the tree rings.

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Agree...

by lwoodsinc - 4/19/09 6:35 AM In reply to: My My by Joe M. Winters

I agree with the "don't fix it." XP Pro runs my 10 year old photo software, which I love, and I don't want to stop using it. I've tried newer versions and have lost features that I constantly use. Why would I want software that someone else considers "better?"

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Windows 7

by SupraRacer007 - 4/10/09 7:28 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I've been using the Win 7 beta since it was released, and aside from a few small issues, I really like it. I'm running a quad core AMD processor with 2 gb memory and Win 7 runs smoothly. My only gripe is how difficult it was to get the right driver for my wireless NIC card. That and I have a few friends I talk to on AIM, and AIM will not install in Windows 7, even in compatibility mode. So I keep in touch with friends and family on Windows Live Messenger instead.

It is definitely less of a resource hog vs Vista. It boots very fast and shuts down just as fast. Outside of my wireless card, I had no issues with any hardware. It hasn't blue screened on me, although one time when I booted it, it had lost my desktop and the icons associated with my logon acct. I used system restore back one day, and the problem hasn't resurfaced. Also, MSFT crams IE8 down your throat with the beta ... and I cannot stand how slow that browser is, even if it is advanced and has all sorts of safeguards built into it. I'm running FireFox in Win 7 because I can't stand how long it takes for IE8 to do everything (even when loading Google.com it's slow).

As long as you have a decent CPU, say above 2ghz ... with a decent amount of memory, you should be fine running this OS. Just like XP, and Vista ... I have always had a PC with a minimum of 2gb of ram. If you go by the mimimum system specs according to Microsoft ... you will not be impressed with the performance of Win 7.

Once the beta is over and MSFT releases a candidate for sale, I will have no problem buying it. I'm using the Ultimate version with Media Center built in (just like other beta users are) and that's what I plan on buying once it becomes available. I am definitely impressed.

So that's my .02 about Win 7. It's definitely what Vista should have been, and wasn't.

Stephen

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Windows 7

by splicerjj - 4/10/09 7:36 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Friend of mine who is a computer guru, is running the Windows 7 beta, and informs me that it is 5 times better then Vista. Thats enough for me. Faster, easier, and more to it.

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Absolutely not the train wreck that Vista is........However!

by john3347 - 4/10/09 7:51 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have been experimenting with Windows 7 beta since mid-January. Windows 7, so far, is positively, absolutely, definitely an improvement over Vista in ALMOST every way. However, it is yet far from perfect or an ideal OS. It is like comparing a second grader, to a Kindergartener, then to a college graduate. The second grader is smarter than a kindergartener in probably every way, but it has a l-o-n-g way to go to be smart as a college graduate. Xp was a step backward in user experience from Windows 2000 and Vista was a HUGE step backward from XP. Windows 7 developers have still failed to listen to the voices of the approximately one billion Windows users worldwide, but they have, at least, come to grips with most of the huge blunders of Vista. I have some older programs that yet will not install on Vista but, guess what!, they will install and run in Windows 7. There are also some newer programs that will not run on Windows 7, but that will surely be fixed before, or at least shortly after, windows 7 goes public.

Windows 7 is not the OS we are all dreaming about, it probably is not even back to the level of Windows XP but it is a sight better than Vista. If you are familiar with Vista, you will not have any problems moving up to 7. Those who are not fully "computer literate" and are not really comfortable with XP will have a tough learning curve. While being better in every way, 7 still looks and feels too much like Windows Vista.

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Much snappier feel than Vista

by nickao65 - 4/10/09 8:07 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

There is no question in my mind that Windows 7 is noticeably faster than Vista. I run the 64 bit OS with 4 gig Ram and noticed the snappier feel instantly.

For me personally the speed increase and snappy feel is absolutely worth upgrading from Vista in itself even if there was nothing else different.

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Windows 7...I'll try to enlighten you!

by radspot - 4/10/09 8:08 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

First, as a very excited user of the 64 bit public beta, let me say...
if the OS never got any better, I would still by the Ultimate version I've been testing. I built an inexpensive AMD dual core system just to run this OS...and I can't wait for the retail version. If you are already using a machine robust enough to run Vista well, you will have no problems with Win7, as it is evolutionary, not revolutionary. Whatever you like about Vista, you'll love with Win7; hardware incompatibilities solved for Vista...are solved for Win7. That's also true for MOST software incompatibilities, tho' you may find a program or two that runs on Vista but not on Win7, because it doesn't recognize the OS version #. There are what I consider minor changes...like no sidebar, although you can still use gadgets; but mostly, it has a very familiar feel for Vista users. The new home networking scheme will be great for owners of multiple Windows 7 machines(you have to figure out how to network the old fashioned way if your network consists of anything other than Win7 machines. The trick to that is...your home network will actually be described as a work network that does not use domain server). I have one Vista laptop on my network, and I support my daughter's Vista notebook too. I have gotten used to Vista dealing with these two machines, but even my wife's 6 month old machine is...quirky. My daughter's 2 year old laptop is one of those early underpowered configurations that works better than you might expect, but not as well as it should. My fresh build running Win7...is stable, fun and fast. I recommend Windows 7!

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Waiting for Windows 7

by ifihad1 - 4/10/09 8:12 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Using Vista Ultimate 64 bit, beta testing Windows 7, the 7 is nice, a little more elegant several features added and some left behind. It is a little more user and hardware friendly. I will change unless Microsoft updates Vista to make it an equal but different platform. They both do the job nicely, you will have to make the decision on your own, finances will decide for many, having to be the first on the block will decide for others. Try it yourself when the RC1 beta is released this month do not let others tell you why you should, be informed, decide for yourself.

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windows 7 upgrade

by chentiangemalc - 4/10/09 8:37 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I participated in Windows Vista Beta program and now Windows 7 beta. I'm currently running 3 copies of Windows 7

At home:

-64 bit edition on home built media centre PC (2.4 GHz / 8 GB Ram)
-32 bit edition on DELL D820 laptop (1.8 GHz dual core / 2 GB Ram)

At work (on a test PC):

-32 bit edition on IBM 9210 (2.4 GHz / 1 GB ram)


?Is it really better than Vista or worse?

This will be a matter of opinion. And we also need to keep in mind it is not the release version we are using.

In my opinion I prefer using Windows 7 over Vista - some things I find useful

-Very fast install time (Although I haven't tried upgrade I've only done clean installs, all my installs took 10-15 mins)
-Media Centre much improved for using with a mouse (I usually don't use a remote control, I just use a bluetooth mouse for my media centre)
-Taskbar now acting like a dock bar in my opinion is a big improvement over the windows taskbar in previous version of windows. For me this is a great advantage because I open lots of programs and in earlier versions of Windows all my running programs would clutter the taskbar. However with the 'dockbar' taskbar I've never been able to fill it. It is also convenient because you start programs directly from the taskbar.
-The error reporting tool is very useful (automatically capture screenshot and step by step instructions when submitting a bug)
-Microsoft developers have responded to every single bug fix/feature suggestion I've submitted (in Windows Vista beta program didn't get a response)

If better, how so? Are there more features? What new features can we expect to see?

For an overview of new features refer to

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/whats-new.aspx

My current system is running Windows Vista, will I have to upgrade my hardware again to run 7?

You will not have to upgrade hardware to run Windows 7 if your PC can already run Vista. Requirements are:

1 GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor
1 GB of system memory
16 GB of available disk space
Support for DirectX 9 graphics with 128 MB memory (in order to enable Aero theme)
DVD-R/W Drive
Internet access (to get updates)

> And last question, will you be upgrading to Windows 7 when it is
> released? Please enlighten me on anything you can for me and others > who are curious and anticipating this new OS release. Thank for all > your opinions and insights to these questions.

Yes (although I have a subscription to Microsoft software so wouldn't have to purchase the upgrade, it will be included in the subscription) If I had to justiy purchasing an upgrade it would depend on the upgrade from Vista price.

~

One additional comment - regarding Microsoft releasing a 64 bit only edition - this would be a problem as there is still a lot of hardware that doesn't work well on 64 bit and in addition many Vista users are using PCs on computers that do not have 64 bit cpus. The main advantage of 64 bit is increased memory (virtual & physical). However 64 bit programs also take up slightly more memory as well, so for most people I can't see them getting much benefit yet for using 64 bit only. The main people who would benefit are those using 64 bit native applications + have more than 4 GB ram on their PC. For example even though the OS is 64 bit, we still often have to use 32 bit version of Internet Explorer & Media Player because due to plugins not working in 64 bit version / codecs not available.

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