PC hardware: Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo
Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo
by Artistic1 - 2/6/06 3:30 PMMy friend and I gave up on trying to repair her Compaq Presario 7598 computer. So I told her hey why don't you use this motherboard and computer case I have laying around here. The motherboard is a Gateway Intel Pentium II Slot 1 LX MicroATX Motherboard serial #4000335. We are trying to put it into a standard ATX case. This case has the normal seperated front panel switches. We are trying to figure out how to connect them to the front panel connectors on the motherboard. The Gateway website doesn't have a diagram showing how to place them. All the website has is a table saying pin 1 hddledpwr and etc. It doesn't say which way it should go or what other pins besides pin 1 should it be on. I need a diagram or manual badly. If you know the answer to this, then feel free to let me know.
Some boards
by TONI H - 2/6/06 4:44 PM In reply to: Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo by Artistic1actually color code the board itself directly in front of the pins involved. Some boards turn you into a frustrated piece of putty trying to figure it out with trial and error....however, most times, if the words or initials (spkr for example) span the number of pins you need for the 'tag' that has the same code printed on the wire end, you can get an idea of how they should be placed.
If the initials aren't laid out on the board parallel with the pins, but rather are perpendicular to the pins, then I would venture a guess that the wire goes "up and down" vertically to cover such as pin 1 and pin 2 rather than pins 1 and 3 horizontally across since the pins would be numbered even in one row and uneven in the other.
I would suggest that you start with the easiest ones first so you eliminate as many of the pins as possible until you get down to the one or two wires that are questionable and then try a couple of different combos.
If you have a link to the Gateway site, please provide it, and I'll take a look at it to see if I can help determine the settings.
TONI
Here's the link
by Artistic1 - 2/6/06 8:40 PM In reply to: Some boards by TONI HThis is the link to the page where it shows the front panel connector. In order to look at the table that attempts to tell you what goes where, you will have to click on the front panel pins in the picture and it will take you that page. After doing more research, I have came to the same conclusion as Ray, the other person that has replied to me. I have a feeling I have to use that Gateway front panel adapter connector. I don't have that. I am using a regular ole ATX case with the normal front panel connectors. I wonder if it's possible to use regular front panel connectors on that motherboard. I bought this motherboard off of Ebay from a company. This company had several Gateway motherboards. I didn't know that Gateway motherboards had special components on them. I thought you could put any Gateway motherboard in any case. I hope I don't have to buy a Gateway computer case. I looked some more on their website and they have part numbers for their front panel adapter connectors. I wonder if I could buy one. What do you think I should do? Is it possible for me to use regular front panel connectors with this motherboard? You mentioned following the words underneath the pins. I wish this motherboard was like that. My other motherboard is like that. This one has numbers underneath the pins. I almost forgot to insert the link. Here it is:
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/m00335/M0033522.shtml
Guessing here
by TONI H - 2/7/06 7:46 AM In reply to: Here's the link by Artistic1HDLED - pins 1 & 3
Some type of sleepmode - pins 2 & 4
PWR - pins 6 & 8
RESET - pins 7 & 9
FPSLP (another type of sleepmode) - pins 10 & 12
SPKR - pins 11, 13, & 15 (possibly 16, too if your plug uses 4 pins instead of three)
According to the vague statement at the bottom of the pins link, there may or may not be SPKR support (which is where the bios boot error beeps come from), so you may not have beeping ability if those aren't activated....but if you can get it to boot up correctly, who needs beeps, right? heheheh
If you give us the markings on each of your actual ATX connectors and how many pins each one will take, it would be good to know if you actually need more than one pin connection as I've stated above.
TONI
mATX and ATX M.B.'s Are Standard
by DRVTACH - 3/15/09 10:42 AM In reply to: Here's the link by Artistic1Hi,
The picture of the Gateway Front panel connector is
Up Side Down or they, for god only knows installed the connector Up Side Down. Why do I know, The 1 missing Pin is Pin 14 that never has a connection [NO Pin]They also mis-numbered the pins on the Gateway MB.
Here are the links to both the 15 pin setup & the 10 pin setup.
On the 10 pin , pin #10 has No pin, #9 is not used
The top row on 99% of ATX MB's are numbered with Even Numbers
Bottom = Odd Numbers. The way to be positive is to look for the Missing PIN = Even 10 or 14
If you like your power LED RED just switch the Power & HHD Led leads.
Colored wires = Positive, Negative = White
After years of building Computers I always install The Front panel Connectors before I install the MB.. First, Pull all the wires out & to the front of the case. Place a Towel on the bottom edge of the case, place the MB at at an angle so the connections are at the edge or out of the Case.
Last, build the MB on your desk. I use rubber mats on all of my work desks, a 100% cotton towel works too, do not fold.
Install the CPU then the Heatsink then the RAM then the Front panel Connections, slide it in the case. Do Not Over tighten the MB screws.
Have Fun
Bill MacGregor
http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d850gb/sb/CS-013238.htm = Intel 15 pin connector
Most other ATX MB's use a 10 pin connector
http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-020836.htm
Do have the case that the Gateway mobo
by Ray Harinec - 2/6/06 7:53 PM In reply to: Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo by Artistic1originally came in??? I suspect that they used a connector that had all of the wires in it, rather than the bunch of individual wires in a standard ATX case.
With the gateway case you could trace the wires back to the source switch or LED.
You hit the nail on the computer case!
by Artistic1 - 2/6/06 8:57 PM In reply to: Do have the case that the Gateway mobo by Ray HarinecI did some more research and came to the same conclusion as you did. I am wondering now if Gateway motherboards can only go into Gateway cases. I don't have the case that this motherboard came in. I was telling Toni, the other person that replied to me, that I bought this motherboard off of Ebay from a company. They had tons of them. I know this is an old motherboard but it was brand new. The motherboard had never been used. So I never had the Gateway case for it. I saw part numbers for 3 different front panel adapter connectors on the Gateway website. So I wonder if they sell them. I am getting a feeling that I won't be able to get this motherboard to work in this standard ATX case.
The reply from Gateway
by Artistic1 - 2/6/06 9:20 PM In reply to: Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo by Artistic1Hey Ray and Toni! I finally got a reply from Gateway. Here is what the technical support guy said:
Thank you for your reply. With your request for the front panel adaptor
connector for the front panel connection of the motherboard. If you
were going to connect the motherboard to a different ATX case, please be
informed all ATX system case has a standard front panel connector. This
means you can connect the motherboard using the front panel adaptor of
your standard ATX. I do hope this information address your concern.
At least I know now that I can connect the motherboard to my case, but I am still in limbo. How do I connect the front panel connectors to the front panel pins on the motherboard? People in the forums give me more info on stuff than the tech support people for these companies. Now I am venting. lol I am just use to having the abbreviated words underneath the frotn panel pins. I am also use to having a manual with a diagram showing what goes where. There are numbers underneath the pins on this motherboard. They coordinate with the numbers on the table that is on the website, but it gets confusing. Maybe you all can read it and understand it. Maybe you all can tell me to put power connector on these pins, hdd led on these pins, and etc. I am close to throwing the motherboard and the case out the window. lol Here's the link to the page again. It shows the front panel pins. To see the table you have to click on the picture of the front panel pins.
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/m00335/M0033522.shtml
Keep in mind that the only
by Ray Harinec - 2/7/06 8:39 AM In reply to: The reply from Gateway by Artistic1connection absolutly needed is the power switch connection. It is two wires with no requirement to observe polarity.
Thus you simply put the mobo on a table top [insulated, sheet of cardboard] plug the ATX power supply into the 120 VAC, plug its connector into the mobo. No other components added to the mobo [no CPU, no memory, nuttin, the power control circuit works with a bare mobo].
Then take the blade of a small slot screwdriver and momentarily touch [short together] a pair of adjacent pins. Eventually one pair will cause the power supply to turn on as evidenced by its fan giong on. You can then turn it off any way you choose, however shorting the pins together again should shut the supply off. [may have to hold it shorted for 4 to 5 seconds to shut it off, a BIOS setting].
There's no voltage or condition that can cause any damage doing this.
with the mobo powered up and with the system working you can try some of the other things The speaker is always a group of four pins of which either 1 and 3 or 1 and 4 have a wire on the connector from the case.
The reset switch is like the power switch in that it is not polarity sensitive, simply a ground [logic low return]. The LEDS ARE polarity sensitive BUT reversing them does not hurt the LED, it just doesn't light.
If you have an ohmemter you might find the LED's via detecting diode characteristics.
You are so tech geeky lol
by TONI H - 2/7/06 9:00 AM In reply to: Keep in mind that the only by Ray Harinecand most times are the saviour of the forums (especially when you are covering MY butt). I'm really glad to see you entered this thread...your knowledge explains much better than I'm able to since I only use my own methods (and terminology) for troubleshooting. You phone to tell me I'm over my head often or try to explain in terminology I usually have no interest in learning. lol
TONI
I was at work and had very little time
by Ray Harinec - 2/7/06 12:10 PM In reply to: You are so tech geeky lol by TONI Hthus didn't read the pin outs that you gave in a post. Excellent information.
The pins seem to always be arranged with the odd numbers along one row, the even across the other. I have never seen the 4 spkr pins to NOT be on the end of the row [never seen a 3 pin spkr connector], but only two pins are normally wired.. I have never seen two wires from a device to be a mix of even and odd number, thus they seem to always be in the same row.
I have noticed in a number of cases that the Power On LED has a unused pin between them [the two wires are individual, not a three pin connector].
Really won't take a heck of a lot of trial and error if done carefully.
Thank you!
by Artistic1 - 2/11/06 3:16 PM In reply to: Can't find front panel connector diagram for Gateway mobo by Artistic1Thank you Ray and Toni for all your help! The Gateway motherboard booted up. The only thing I had to change was the reset switch. It goes on pin 5 and 7. I thought I should say that just in case people come here looking for help with the same motherboard. You all cracked me up while giving me great advice at the same time. lol I think that's how good tech support should be. Now I have another dilemma. It concerns my friend's other computer. I think I should start another thread for that huh. I don't want anybody yelling at me saying hey you should start another thread for that question bucko! lol Feel free to drop by and help me with my newest dilemma. Thanks again! 
I'm really happy
by TONI H - 2/13/06 3:10 AM In reply to: Thank you! by Artistic1that we were able to help, and that you figured out the reset one (I've never used that reset button more than four times in all the years I've had a computer)
As for the entertainment end, if you don't have a sense of humor prior to purchasing a computer, you better get one quickly....they are the most troublesome, amazing, entertaining, educational, and frustrating toys imaginable. I've learned how to do stuff I never dreamed I would do let alone WANT to.
TONI
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