General Mac software discussions: Toast 8 or 9?
Toast 8 or 9?
by jennywren1420 - 1/27/09 10:03 AMI was all set to buy Roxio Toast Titanium 9 online for my G4 Sawtooth Mac (and any Mac I may have in the nearish future) but couldn't find specs requirements beyond the Mac models that were accommodated, even at Roxio's own Web site. I phoned the place that was having a sale on Toast 9 and was told that I should have at least 512 MB of RAM for it. I have 384.
I know that sometimes salespeople are overly cautious about such recommendations. Does any of you have an opinion on this subject? And is version 9 (version 10 is out now) so superior to 8 that I should wait to buy Toast in any version till I have more RAM? For that matter, do I actually need more RAM to run that version of Toast if that is all I would be running when I burn a CD or DVD? For now, that's all I want it for. I have the capacity to burn them even now, but I gather that Toast does it so much better than the burning facilities of OS X (in my case, 10.4.11) alone.
I also wondered whether even version 9 is likely to become obsolete when the newer Macs and OS versions come out. It is my impression that there is going to be some kind of sea change in a shortish while, so that older software may not be able to be used.
So many questions. Thanks so much for your indulgence.
Best,
Jenny
Toast 8 or 9
by mrmacfixit
- 1/27/09 3:03 PM
In reply to: Toast 8 or 9? by jennywren1420
If you plan is to purchase a new Mac, of whatever flavor, in the forseeable furture, I would go with Toast 9 as you will still be up to date when you move to it.
That said, your G4 Sawtooth can handle it without a problem. Note that there is no RAM requirements mentioned in these lists, which were taken from the Roxio site.
Toast 9 Specs:
Macintosh computer with a PowerPC™ G4, PowerPC G5, or Intel® processor. PowerPC G5 or Intel processor required for encoding and viewing high definition content
CD, DVD, Blu-ray, or HD DVD recordable
Mac OS X v10.4.x and Mac OS X v10.5.x
600 MB of free disk space to install
Up to 15 GB of temporary free disk space during usage ((Not necessary if all you are doing is burning CD/DVD's from your data or movies created with iDVD.
Additional space may be required when working with high definition content
QuickTime 7.x
Internet connection required for some functionality
Blu-ray and HD DVD (BDMV) video authoring functionality requires purchase of the HD/BD Plug-in.
Toast 8 Specs:
PowerPC G4, G5, or Intel Core processor. G5 processor recommended for viewing DivX files on your Mac.
Mac OS X v10.4.8 or later.
150 MB of free disk space to install.
Up to 15 GB of temporary free disk space for audio and video editing. See comment on this in the Toast 9 entry]
QuickTime 7 or higher.
The latest versions of iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie are recommended.
P
Good advice
by jennywren1420 - 1/28/09 7:25 AM In reply to: Toast 8 or 9 by mrmacfixit
Yes, I saw that about Roxio's Web site and that of the place I was going to get Toasted. (Just a little whimsy, that "-ed." We have snow and grey weather here again, and every little bit of levity helps!) That was the reason I wondered about that salesperson's insistence that I needed 512 MB of RAM. Your post is most reassuring.
Thanks so much,
Jenny
Toast 8 or 9
by Design55 - 1/30/09 6:15 PM In reply to: Toast 8 or 9? by jennywren1420Save your money - stay with 8. It's fine
She does not have Toast 8
by mrmacfixit - 1/31/09 5:10 AM
In reply to: Toast 8 or 9 by Design55
so it is not a question of saving money
P
Oddly enough
by jennywren1420 - 1/31/09 6:14 AM In reply to: She does not have Toast 8 by mrmacfixit
if the store keeps selling Toast 9 with the combination of a deep discount, plus a manufacturer's rebate, it will come out much less expensive than 8. Still, that doesn't mean that I should buy 9.
In fact, I have decided not to get Toast at all until I come back from my trip. I would have no time to try it out (to see whether the copy I got was working all right)—that is, if it even arrived before I depart. I am willing to take a chance that I can find some version of Toast at a reasonable price when I get home (though Amazon is charging almost as much for 8 as the full retail price for 9). I'll keep all of you posted, and thanks for your interest.
One point, though, made earlier, does speak to me. If I shall be replacing my poor old laptop with a newer one, it might be a good idea to have versions of my software, including Toast, that will dance gracefully with the newer versions of OS X (and beyond?)—though it must still comport itself nicely with my G4 Sawtooth desktop until that one bites the dust. Between one thing and another (don't ask), that laptop replacement seems to be a less distant reality than it was before.
Jenny
Toast 8 or 9
by Pete - 1/31/09 12:35 AM In reply to: Toast 8 or 9? by jennywren1420Although generally speaking it is always better to run the latest updates of software, I'm still running Toast 7 on my iMac 24 with 10.5.6 and it's doing fine and I use it more often than Toast 8. Just a matter of preference.
Pete.
Sure it does, but
by mrmacfixit - 1/31/09 5:11 AM
In reply to: Toast 8 or 9 by Pete
she does not have any version of Toast.
P
Toast 8 or 9
by Pete - 1/31/09 7:12 AM In reply to: Sure it does, but by mrmacfixit
Yes, I'm aware of that 
My reply was more directed towards Jenny's remark that:
"I also wondered whether even version 9 is likely to become obsolete when the newer Macs and OS versions come out. It is my impression that there is going to be some kind of sea change in a shortish while, so that older software may not be able to be used."
Older software doesn't become automatically obsolete because updates or upgrades of an OS come around. Sometimes new quirks are induced after an upgrade - either by the OS or the upgraded software - so it's always good to be prudent. Patience sweet that nought can ruffle
Pete.
Ahh, I see,
by mrmacfixit - 1/31/09 11:41 AM
In reply to: Toast 8 or 9 by Pete
In that context it makes sense.
Most of the current software is compiled as Universal Binary so the "sea change" to which she refers, probably Snow Leopard that will only run on Intel Macs, will not make any difference.
P
Thanks to both of you
by jennywren1420 - 1/31/09 12:50 PM In reply to: Ahh, I see, by mrmacfixit
. . . and I'll have to see what the situation is after I get back from Auld Reekie and actually buy Toast. That is, from Edinburgh—so nicknamed, a long while back, because in the good old, bad old days, the city was distinctive for its terrible smell.
But back then, everyplace smelled of something rank, and other cities may well have been just as bad—not to speak of country haunts, barnyards, people who washed only once a year, if that. Next time you curse the complexities of the twenty-first century, think about that. And about vaccines and all the rest that our age—which, I admit, can be headache-inducing and heartbreaking—has to offer.
Jenny (aka Pollyanna but not Candide)
(NT) :-)
by mrmacfixit - 1/31/09 4:03 PM
In reply to: Thanks to both of you by jennywren1420
More RAM
by onemoremile - 1/31/09 8:09 PM In reply to: Toast 8 or 9? by jennywren1420Jenny: If you are going to spring for Toast, why not buy a little more RAM. I looked around the net a bit and found 512 MB of memory for your computer at less than 30 dollars. Seems to me that if you were to pick up one or two of these sticks and the Toast version of your choice, you should have a wonderful burning experience.
I might just do that
by jennywren1420 - 2/1/09 11:52 AM In reply to: More RAM by onemoremile. . . even though my computer is a bit long in the tooth.
Thanks,
Jenny
Can I run it on my Mac Mini?
by noevalleyjim - 2/3/09 2:48 PM In reply to: I might just do that by jennywren1420My Mac Mini has 1GB of RAM, should that be enough?
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