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- 12/12/08 4:12 PM
lol the_eternal_dark
by module409 - 12/30/08 3:08 AM In reply to: lol.... by the_eternal_darkAre you high on crack? Just exactly what have you been smoking?
You said the ipod is like the Wii...a fad product. Something tells me you said the same thing when they invented television and again said the same thing about rock and roll. You don't pay ANY attention
to what's going on in the world around you at all. Do you? Nursing homes are now using the Wii product for it's exercise software that is done in a way that is fun...like games. It helps improve mental and physical abilities. Racing stripes painted on a car...that's a fad. A "**** happens" T-shirt...that's a fad. A "where's the beef" baseball cap...that's a fad. Also, the pet rock...come on!! I've no idea how old you are. I do know you don't know what you're talking about. If you readers don't recognize the fads mentioned...point made.
Get over yourself, mate.....
by the_eternal_dark - 12/31/08 1:20 AM In reply to: lol the_eternal_dark by module409Look at the Motorola Razor, it was cool when it was new, mainly because it looked different compared to other phones, in the end, it was still a phone, and not even a cleverly designed one at that.
Look at Honda Civics, Mitsubishi Eclipses, and Nissan 240SXs, and the ridiculous body kits that came along with them, everyone (mainly kids) wanted these cars because of one of the worst movie series of all time, Fast and the Furious, now look how that has died off in recent years.
Mullets were also a fad (and hopefully contained to the 80's and modern day trailer parks) that died off after a while as well.
What I was intending to get across in the post you replied to was the fact that the iPod Touch (and iPods in general) and the Wii will continue to see lowering sales and increased disinterest in the product. IT IS A ******* FAD.... Neither of these two products will be as popular or become a standard as the television has. There is nothing revolutionary about a touch screen. There is nothing revolutionary about a motion tracking controller. There is nothing revolutionary about beating a substandard product into the youth of our world with mass marketing and overhype.
And honestly, children, fat people, and in general, any moron that thinks the Wii is a great form of exercise, should have gotten their out of shape ***** outside and enjoyed some fresh air a long time ago. Now for the elderly, I do agree it is a good form of exercise/entertainment.
Seriously, you will be looking back on this conversation (if you can call it that, I feel as if I am speaking to a 2nd grade class with various degrees of learning disabilities at the moment) and see that, like the pet rock, the mullet, and Honda Civics with body kits, within the next 2 years and say "Damn, he and everyone else was right." These things will not last long in their current state, technology never really does...
Point made....
+1 the_eternal_dark
Now **** off, module409...
lol
by Marino013 - 12/31/08 5:11 AM In reply to: Get over yourself, mate..... by the_eternal_darkGreat comment! 
Forcefully Stated..
by His SHadow - 1/20/09 9:03 AM In reply to: Get over yourself, mate..... by the_eternal_darkAnd yet still pure Bull****. The Wii and the iPod are NOT seeing declining interest and/or sales. That's just a fantasy you perpetuate to support your nonsense claim that the game changing Wii and the constantly evolving and bestselling iPod are fads. If and when those two end their runs, you will look back and claim "I told you so", but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
You want to keep buying lowest common denominator crap, go right ahead. Want to be a "hater" and pretend you get street cred by bashing #1, Hey, go hard.
But it's quite instructive that the overwhelming majority of the suggestions in here believe that bashing Apple and the iPod constitutes good buying advice. It's not. You either have useful information or not. "Apple sucks and is overpriced LOL11!!!" are just the usual Apple bashing nonsense. Even the ranting about price is meaningless if you don't explain what you are or are not getting for your money.
So Funny!
by bmaciver - 1/20/09 10:44 AM In reply to: Forcefully Stated.. by His SHadowIt’s so funny how MAC/Apple devotees get so upset when you point out a few simple facts! It’s as if they are discomfited by such statements!
I completely agree bmaciver!
by CRod67 - 1/20/09 11:56 AM In reply to: So Funny! by bmaciverIt IS funny! But that's how the Apple crowd reacts because they have no other way to argue their point towards a product they so blindly endorse. They call us "haters" or "bashers", but none of us have said the Apple Ipod is a bad mp3 player. We've only tried to point out other makes and models that have more features at a lesser price. (which by the way doesn't make them garbage or cheap)
If being a good consumer makes you an "apple basher" than so be it. The original post was about a Grandmother looking to purchase an MP3 player for her grandchildren and she was working with a limited budget. Nobody on this forum has claimed Apple puts out a bad product, quite the contrary. The Ipod is a great piece of equipment. However, the smart consumers here merely tried to offer Grandma other alternatives that would give her (& her Grandchildren) the best "bang for their buck". Apple, just like other brand names (Polo Ralph Lauren, BMW, Samsung HDTV's & the list goes on and on) are all great products. But you're paying a huge premium for the "name". And all good consumers know there are products out there that are just as good (and often times better) than a brand name product.
So all you trend following Ipod loving people out there, don't get so bent out of shape, it's not the end of the world. Some of us merely attempted to "open your eyes" to other alternatives. Which in this day and age when everyone is trying to save money and/or get the best value possible for their hard earned money, is very important. (Especially to all the Grandma's out there on a fixed budget) So please don't take it so hard Mr Apple-man....it's just a friendly discussion.
Have a great day!
thumbs up eternal_dark
by bmaciver - 1/17/09 6:31 AM In reply to: lol the_eternal_dark by module409I agree his choice of words are wrong. Fad is not what neither of them are. He is however correct about what you get,,, Once you get past the coolness of the ipod it's just a over-hyped, over priced toy! The ipod is pure trend! The quality is far from the best. You get so much more bang for your buck by overlooking trend and being a smart shopper. Stop buying what the TV Commercials tell you is right and make a decision for yourself. Personally I put Sansa, Creative and Cowon towards the top of the list of Best Bang for your buck. Try checking out www.AnythingButIpod.com. This will give you some great information.
excellent comments bmaciver
by CRod67 - 1/17/09 11:03 PM In reply to: thumbs up eternal_dark by bmaciverYou said it best! I wish they would move your comments to the very front so people that have no clue about MP3 players would read your comment before all others. The fact is the IPod is just a fad and is extremely overpriced and over-hyped waste of money.
Like you said.....Please people....be smart consumers. Stop being "followers" and start being leaders. Think for yourselves for once instead of trying to keep up with the Jones's by buying into the Apple hype. There are so many other great MP3 players on the market that have twice the features and cost less than half of what the Ipod does.
a side note....I disagree with the poster that says "stay away from flash media like the plague". While hard drives are great, I've never had a problem with flash media and I've used SD and Micro SD cards in my pc, my MP3 player, my cell phone, my printer and two digital camera's for years without any problems. It's a great media and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. As well as it being extremely affordable these days.
Ha!
by His SHadow - 1/18/09 4:41 PM In reply to: excellent comments bmaciver by CRod67Yeah, Right. The number One MP3 player on the planet, which has laid waste to all other pretenders to the throne, is just a "fad".
You Apple bashers really need to get over yourselves. You don't want an Apple product? Nobody cares. But if you think that your advocacy for some other brand is bolstered by your "hater" credentials, you are mistaken.
Yeah but we get the last laugh
by CRod67 - 1/18/09 4:59 PM In reply to: Ha! by His SHadowYou Apple fanboy's have wasted your money on a product with half the features than a less expensive compatible all for a name. Those of us that choose not to buy into the hype end up with the last laugh.
Have a great day.
Last Laugh?
by His SHadow - 1/19/09 9:07 AM In reply to: Yeah but we get the last laugh by CRod67You mean when your lowest common denominator junk isn't supported any longer, your proprietary DRM schemes leave you hanging and you have to buy another one, you'll still be laughing? Please stop. You want fads? Look at every dopey player that's been hailed as an "iPod Killer". Where are they now? In landfills, and probably not even made anymore.
Your bluster is ridiculous. Apple has sold 170 million iPods of all shapes and sizes. Unless it's your contention that every Apple "fanboy" bought 40 iPods each, once again, just to be clear, your Apple bashing just makes you a whiner and a hater, as well as disconnected from the reality that Apple is the #1 player for a plethora of reasons, and it's not because of fashion or hype.
It's because of a solidly built product with ease of use second to none, and a constantly improving and growing ecosystem of content, added functionality and accessories.
So please, keep up the charade, but the only one laughing is Apple and the people who choose quality over knock off devices with a laundry list of useless features. You have your hate to keep you warm. Good luck.
Yes, the last laugh
by Crash2100 - 1/19/09 10:17 AM In reply to: Last Laugh? by His SHadowSo it's better to get the interface of a rotary dial phone on the iPod than getting the uselessness of four times the storage, an FM radio tuner, and MP4 video, all for a lesser price?
And the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player, so the iPod is actually a knockoff device itself. It just got hyped in the media so much that the clueless public quickly became obsessed with it.
That's Nice..
by His SHadow - 1/19/09 11:26 AM In reply to: Yes, the last laugh by Crash2100Nice and nonsensical. Nobody cares who is first. It's entirely irrelevant. But it's a fact that the landfills are full of mp3 players that claimed to be iPod killers who are themselves dead. But I noticed that you didn't address that. There were cell phones before the iPhone as well. How relevant is that? Pretty irrelevant. Or are you going to argue that a Porsche Boxster has nothing on the Model T because the Boxster is a knock off of the first automobile?
MP4 video? Who do you think DEFINES the new MPEG standards for video? I'll give you a hint. It starts with APPLE. FM tuner? I have 16 gigs of storage because I want to listen to my own music. And the sales say no one cares about FM.
4 times the storage? 4 times what? 4 times who?
Who's Bashing?
by bmaciver - 1/19/09 11:51 AM In reply to: Yes, the last laugh by Crash2100Bashing? Who’s bashing? When it comes right down to it, it’s not much different from politics and religion,,, everyone is better than all the rest. They all have their pros and cons. What’s important to understand is that we succeed in life by making our own decisions,,, not following the cults! Sure iPods are simple to operate,,, but some of us need simplicity! Some of us don’t have the ability to think things through on our own. Proprietary leads to lack of flexibility. Sure I purchase a new mp3 player every 3 to 4 years; only because there’s newer technology available on the market and I’m interested in something new. When deciding between an iPod and numerous other mp3/video devices on the market, what benefit do I possibly get from paying $11.00 per GB versus $31.00 per GB? What benefit do I get from purchasing a device that gives me 16.7m colors on the display versus 64k? What benefit do I get from buying a device that gives me the ability to upgrade and add additional storage space for minimal costs? I can go on with the “what if’s” but what’s the point? I did forget one thing about iPods; they do offer tons of overpriced accessories if that’s what you’re interested in, such as FM Tuners which no one is really interested in but they sell them anyway!
no bashing here
by CRod67 - 1/19/09 1:00 PM In reply to: Last Laugh? by His SHadowNobody is "bashing" the Ipod. I never said it wasn't a good product. I'm just saying that people should look and see what else is out there instead of blindly following the Ipod loving crowd. As noted dozens of times in this post, there are tons of MP3 players on the market that are just as good as the Ipod at half the price. With Apple, you're paying a premium for the Apple "name". It's not by any stretch of the imagination a better product than the Zen or the Zune. Not to mention the Ipod has half the features as those other players.
As for the FM tuner: maybe you don't listen to the radio anymore, but I know alot of people that still do, including myself. Just because it's not something you like, doesn't mean nobody else will want that feature on their MP3 player.
But that's the thing with Apple fanboys like yourself. Unless everyone else is blindly following you and blowing their money on a product with less features and less battery life, their all "apple bashers".
So yeah....that's funny and I am having the last laugh all the way to the bank with an extra 80 bucks in my pocket.
All you have to do is look at the Macbooks. Again, a product with less than half the features that is severely limited in the amount of programs it can run than a comparable PC laptop, but at more than double the price. Again....you're paying for a "name" and not getting your money's worth. Nobody here "hates" Apple, we're just smarter consumers that's all.
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