Windows Vista: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now?
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by John.Wilkinson - 1/12/09 10:56 AM
In reply to: Window7 by zahari.rahamat
NEITHER. If you're on Win2000, it means your PC is outdated.
by roland827 - 1/12/09 7:37 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Vista and Windows 7 are resource hogs, and would not be a right fit for your old computer. You're only option, really, is Windows XP. If this were a newer PC (at least Dual Core, 2 or more Gigs of RAM), then I'd recommend you wait for Windows 7.
However, it still depends on what you really expect from your PC. If all you do is surf the web, a couple of emails, etc. Then Win2k is not bad, although there are some security issues in the future, as Microsoft will not be updating any security flaws and you might end up with a hackable PC. Windows XP is still supported, and with the advent of Netbooks, it will still be supported in years to come (Why would MS drop support for a OS that is still in demand?)
As for Vista and Win 7, these are OS specifically geared for newer (i.e. FASTER) PCs, and is not a option for people coming from Windows 2000...
Win 2K Vs XP Vs Win 7
by knives4less - 1/12/09 8:26 AM In reply to: NEITHER. If you're on Win2000, it means your PC is outdated. by roland827I have an old HP VL 400 SF that came with disks for both Win 2K and XP. I was never able to install XP. 2K ran but crashed a lot. I fianally installed Win ME, which still runs IE 5.0.
After a white box's, running XP, hard drive died, XP would not install in thje replacement drive.
I bought 3 new HP computers last year. All came with Vista. It was a dog until PC Magazine revealed that most of Vista can be turned off and XP features restored with a few registry hacks. They run much better now but not as good as ME, limited though it is.
The beauty of Win 7 is that it is modular. You can install only the parts you need. This could make your old machine out perform many low-end boxes running Vista.
If you want to play games, get a new motherboard and video cards. Old machines can not handle 3D graphics, no matter what OS you install.
Should i wait for windows y or move on to Vista now?
by 3116t - 1/12/09 12:14 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Jerome: Personally i think you should wait for windows 7 because the difference between, this and Vista, can be a bad experience. i have some years working with Windows and actually work with windows xp (the requeriments of vista are really big, memory, processor velocity, video card velocity, etc.). the difference within Windows 2000 and XP is big, imagine within Windows 2000 and vista? (Graphics at 64 bits compare to 32 with XP). many friends are tell me for a some difficulty installing programs and applications. In my opinion you should actualize to Windows XP (Service pack 2, works very well) with this you can see the difference between this two operative sistems, then you take a better idea wich i talk. Good Luck.
Probably wait for windows 7
by baloor - 1/12/09 4:37 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have Vista home edition on my laptop (Inspiron 1720 Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 1.80GHz 2gig Ram) for over a year and it work great. But last weekend I was try windows 7 beta build 7000 on my laptop with vmWame and I was very impress. Start and stop much fastest than Vista, Eset smart security work well and I don't saw anything wrong for the moment.
For me I will wait for Windows 7 if you can. But I'm very satisfy too with Vista. But remember etheir your choice you will be need a moment of adaptation because these OS are very diferent of your windows 2000.
Hoping that this may help you!
new computer
by bobfixit40 - 1/12/09 5:01 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
frist off don't buy a store bought computer build your own you can build for 1/2 the price and have a better computer then download windows 7 beta and try then if you don't like that you can go with what ever OP system you like go to www.tigerdirect.com for some good deal on parts it not real hard to put together your own system.
WAIT FOR WINDOWS 7
by John Philp - 1/13/09 10:49 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I use Vista and have gotten used to it and all of the little quirks that it has. However, I would suggest that you wait as Vista does take a lot of getting used to because it has so many illogical sequences that you have to learn.
Windows 7 or Vista
by Zellarac - 1/14/09 2:50 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am a PC Doctor and I find I have to learn all I can about all operating systems. just a small tip to you,I curently have 3 operating systems on my computer. I have Windows Vista 32bit and 64bit home premium and just the other day I downloaded and instaled the new Windows 7 64bit operating system. The new OP is currently being offered as a beta version, this means it is being tested but the good thing to you is that it is free. Just go to microsoft windows main page and search for Windows 7 and look for the download instructions.
To dual boot or Triple boot as I have is a little trickier and you can find instructions how to all over the net.
Good luck to you
Darrell Manson
The Cyberman
Stick with what works for you!
by scribble88 - 1/14/09 7:39 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I don't know if America is the same as Australia, but computer retailers are adding Window XP downgrade in there promotions for Vista pre-loaded computers. I am probable going to proven wrong, but XP is a very stable O.S. in my opinion. Video editing is my hobby, you need a system that is stable, wont Blue Screen you at that important time, when after many hours/days of working on your film, it crashes damaging your work or losing it all together. Now I know that some people are going to say that Vista works fine for them, but there are hardware incompatibilities that come up, networking Vista comps to XP comps needs a special patch; though commentators have said networking is one of the better points of vista.
I guess the point was brought to a head this weekend for me. I finally got the yes from the ball and chain to build a new computer. The new computer I built included 4 gb of 1066mhz Ram, however when I went to re-install XP, I got "blue screened". After many hours of searching through forums, I found out that XP does not recognise more than 2 gb or Ram. Ok I thought, I'll get Vista, NO cannot do that because Vista is in the same boat, you need to get 64bit XP or 64bit Vista. Why would you buy an operating system that isn't that backwards compatible, quite a bit of hardware is not recognised. Someone, on some forum wrote vista is service pack 3 for Xp, it looks prettier, has a few very handy tools (Search orb/search windows). Xp works just fine! I have not looked recently but video editing forums couldn't tell yet which version "OUT OF THE MANY VERSIONS" of Vista would be best for video editing.
2000 I think I am right uses the old windows NT structure, it was designed for business, more stable I think. There are going to be delays for beta testing of windows 7, but stick with what works for you!
Without Question, SEVEN! But plot a path:
by jadotech - 1/14/09 12:08 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Jerome: thank you for your question. I hope the following suggestions are helpful. They are geared to make your transition smooth and allow you to "skip" one more OS in favor of going through 2 in rapid succession or being stuck with Vista when everyone else might be hooting all about 7. (It also provides the option for Vista to be a fallback) Please understand I am making the leap that Windows 7 will be better than Vista and that there is at least some interest on your part that you would, if possible, prefer to skip Vista. I do not think that it would be difficult at all to make it from Windows 2000 to Windows 7.
With that preface in mind, I would wait until 7 comes out and has had its first major SP (if that's what they are still calling it then) deployed for a couple of months. At this point, "7" should be more or less mainstream, acceptably "bug-free", reasonably stable enough and play well with others' drivers. Yes, that's an even longer time than you were anticipating, but if you want something as priceless as "Peace of Mind" and want to have another long term relationship with an operating system, here is what I suggest; it gives you something else that is priceless - TIME! Win/Win!!
First, I would highly recommend a new external Backup Drive. I suspect you need less than 250 GB so forgive me if a presumption of about 80 bucks falls short. (A 320 GB External HDD is available from a reliable vendor) Back-up everything that you consider remotely important on it! If you are already backing up (BTW kudos if you are!), implement this new drive as a redundancy. If you aren't backing up now, what better time to start? You will never have the misfortune of having to come to understand the word "gone" at some critical point later. Personally, I keep really important stuff on six or seven disks at 2 separate private locations.
Next, and while you still can (if you can), replace your PC's internal Hard Drive. (I consider Hard Drives "DISPOSABLE" and seven years is a long time even by many manufacturers’ standards even with enterprise class HDD’s) This will provide a rejuvenation of speed to your PC, as well as be a part of the bridge we are building. Even if you have lost your copy/license for W2K, stay with it; again a few more bucks, but less in the big picture and on course to make the skips. The point is to only have to make one OS change and be educated enough to make the decision based on popular consensus. Remember, you will have the choice at the impasse in 18 months to go with Vista OR Windows 7.
That said, implemented, and done, you can now invest this priceless time into something that no one can ever take away from you - education! Learn all you can about Windows 7 and who Microsoft is partnering up with for its launch. Test-drive Vista at length if possible. This will prove invaluable in your final decision. And if you’re really crafty, get a hands-on ride with Windows 7 Beta or Betas. Get some experience with Windows 7 pre and post release of the first Service Pack, too.
Now, unless you are having some difficulties with your current PC's other hardware, you should be good to go for a little while.
If you are thinking of a new PC altogether at this point (I would be) OR want/need one now, and are not building it yourself, find a LOCAL and independent "guru" and have that person build you a relatively inexpensive PC that will primarily get you to what I would call your "Real Overhaul" and deployment of Windows 7. This would mean about a $450.00 cost if said “guru” is fair-minded and wants to keep your business. (If you build yourself a box, it would be less.) Secondarily, that system can provide a couple of other benefits. Some of those parts will be transferrable (Optical Drives and possibly the Display Adapter) for the leap to 7 and its ultimate hardware array. Further, you may be looking at some Peripherals in the meantime. Current Hardware should remain more than Mainstream ‘enough’ to be compatible with your choices if you do your homework. For example, you may have your eye on a Monitor upgrade and the aforementioned Display Adapter (also referred to as a Video Card) will, in all likelihood, remain paired in the Windows 7 configuration. Finally, it means that the whole $450.00 is not flushed when you build the computer that will take you and Windows 7 in for the next long haul. Your internal Hard Drive in the “bridge” PC can be part of the Windows 7 box as an internal Back-up or storage. I would be ready to spend about $1,400.00 or so for that one and include the new Full Version of the OS. I would expect this to be a fairly robust machine, again built by your “guru”.
This entire solution, were I doing it myself, would be pretty cost effective and provide the most options while protecting your data. Total cost (if you are having someone build the computers) I would say should stay safely under $2,500.00 and include getting you an OS to carry you through to about the middle of 2015 presuming a 5 year lifespan of the final solution and no major mishaps.
Well, If you have to choose...
by SupraGuy - 1/14/09 12:33 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Vista still has known issues, and it's hard for me to recommend it as a choice for anyone. While I'm sure that there is a set of core apps that work on it very well, what I've experienced with it certainly does not make it something that I'd want to go to.
Windows 7 may well have its own set of issues, and indeed, I'd be surprised if it does not, however, what I've heard there is that it should perhaps be labelled as "Vista Service Pack 2." Were this the case, I'd definitely say "wait" -- Microsoft seems to rush things to market, and historically, it's been a couple of service packs before things are really ready.
I'd say hold off on a MS operating system upgrade for now, or look for one of the vendors still offering XP if you must upgrade hardware now. Windows 7 is still too much of an unknown, though if it's really like a service pack on Vista, it might be a good thing. The jury is still out. As for Vista, it's not ready for me to use. I tried, and re-installed XP.
Everybody loves to hate Microsoft, and I'm no exception there, but I recognise that the reality is that if I want inexpensive, readily available software, that's still the platform to go with. However, you might want to evaluate your needs. For basic use, such as email, Internet, Office productivity applications, and so on, Linux has made leaps and bounds in being able to offer a desktop for people who just want to use the machine, without having to learn how to edit and compile their own code. Apple has also made some strides in their machines and operating systems, and these are becoming a better deal for the dollar steadily.
I feel that an alternative may well fit your needs based on your old machine. Something that old, and running Windows 2000 certainly isn't putting you in the middle of the high performance gamer group. If your needs fit with what something like Ubuntu linux can deliver, maybe it's a better choice for you. You will certainly be able to save some money, since this will likely handle day-to-day tasks faster and easier with less money invested in the machine.
Whither Operating System?
by sherry169 - 1/15/09 6:07 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
My friends and I, myself have agreed that we are NOT going to adopt Vista-ever! If you need a new computer now, then use XP as the operating system. In the future, you might adopt any forthcoming Microsoft operating system to it. Vista is not a significant improvement over XP (perhaps a net negative). XP has proven to be very stable, fast, and still supporteed. No reason to upgrade. Wait.
I don't understand the fuss
by Call_Me - 1/16/09 8:27 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've had Vista for over a year now and just bought an Acer Aspire with Vista today and I couldn't be happier. I have NO idea what the fuss is about Vista: I love it and haven't had a glitch, bump or problem during the entire time. I think that this is like the Y2K brouhaha...everyone's worried about something that just isn't going to happen.
Forget it... Microsoft isn't what it was years ago:
by gmayer0 - 1/16/09 8:29 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
How can Microsoft pull this off? Vista has been regarded as a flop: it's difficult to maintain and how can Microsoft provide a decent operating system when they're under attack from virus' and spyware. It's easy to become king of the hill but it's hard to stay there. Mac's have a proven record of "success" but that may be because they're "not under attack". The time is now to switch to Mac... for a lot more money you can get an operating system that has less problems, more user friendly, as well as good hardware that gives back more years for the money.
Just an opinion. I sell Dells and Toshibas with Windows XP home/pro (599 and up) to my customers that don't want to bear the Vista curve... and can't always afford the mac laptops ($999.00)
Why do your mac user friends swear by them? They're not dumb and puppy-loving their computer... they're usually head over heels.
Just an opinion: Call dell: buy up the xp product that they have left if this isn't an option for you: Vista stank and Windows 7 will be awful.
Geez, can we dispense with the Mac fanboi posts?
by Brons2 - 1/17/09 1:17 AM In reply to: Forget it... Microsoft isn't what it was years ago: by gmayer0I am running the Windows 7 beta right now on a 5 year old Athlon XP 3000+ with 1GB of RAM and an 80GB hard drive only and it runs very nicely. Sitting at the desktop with no programs going, my physical memory usage is only 317MB which is comparable to XP.
So I can't agree with your assertion that Windows7 will be "awful". I am excited about it. The beta is very polished and ready to go.
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