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Windows Vista: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/16/09 4:11 PM
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Did you read

by MarkFlax Moderator - 1/10/09 5:16 AM In reply to: Odd by link48010

the Windows Vista Forum Sticky post, FYI: Want to try Windows 7?

Also, (referred to in that discussion), Information on Downloading and Installing Windows 7 Beta.

As understand it, there was a limited download offer of 2.5 million, so I would guess you have missed it by now.

Mark

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Win 7 beta download.

by rockinbaja - 1/10/09 8:28 AM In reply to: Did you read by MarkFlax Moderator

The tremendous interest in the Windows 7 Beta version so overwhelmed Microsoft's download servers, that Microsoft was forced to shut them down. Microsoft plans to add more servers and release the remaining beta downloads at a later date.

This is the latest update regarding this matter:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/default.aspx.

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In addition to what Mark said...

by John.Wilkinson Moderator - 1/10/09 8:16 AM In reply to: Odd by link48010

1.) It was never released to the standard Microsoft downloads website.
2.) It is only available through Connect for specially-selected beta testers...invite only.
3.) It is available to everyone with an OS-level or higher MSDN or Technet subscription, regardless of public beta availability.
4.) As noted in the forum sticky, the public beta's availability is flaky due to overwhelmed servers and technical glitches.

John

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Not really...

by sergitech - 1/10/09 8:57 PM In reply to: In addition to what Mark said... by John.Wilkinson Moderator

I'm only a teenager and i'm currently downloading Windows 7 Beta. You can try to download it (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx) but it's only available for like the first 25 Million people who do download it.

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Breaking News!

by sergitech - 1/10/09 9:03 PM In reply to: Not really... by sergitech

Due to the high interest of Windows 7, Microsoft has decided to keep the download available to the public until January 24, 2009.

P.S. The Windows 7 Beta will only work until August 1, 2009. After that you'll have to re-install your original operating system.

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Less is More

by jb802 - 1/9/09 11:22 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi!
Depends on what you're using your computer for. If you HAVE to have the latest and greatest....well than you're just gullible. Most of us over the age of 40 use our boxes to get E-Mail, check the stock market, or send a "Trunk Monkey" U-Tube video to Larry in Ohio or whatever. If you can get by with XP,...well that sucks too...I've been downgrading most of the older clients to Win98 SE. It's stable and more than enough for most needs.

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Think about a Netbook as a Bridge

by teamw - 1/9/09 11:43 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I would buy a netbook as a bridge to Windows 7, Service Pack 1.

Your problem is really two-fold: (1) You don't really know when Windows 7 is going to be released, and (2) Microsoft's history tends to be that any new product needs tweaking before it is really stable and worthwhile, so even if Windows 7 is a major improvement over Vista, chances are it will have problems in the first six months+ that it is out there.

My suggestion would be to get a good, basic netbook that lets you hook up a real monitor, keyboard and mouse. If you are used to a 7 year old computer running windows 2000, it will still feel to you like a major upgrade in performance. HP has a nice netbook they are selling for $400. Windows 7, when it is released, is probably going to be $200 alone.

Further, you won't know now whether the computer you are about to buy will have enough horsepower to run Windows 7 since the system requirements haven't been announced yet. If Windows 7 is delayed significantly, the ultimate specs could leave you with an expensive paperweight.

If you buy a netbook now, you can wait to time your upgrade to whenever Microsoft gets around to releasing (and fixing) Windows 7. You aren't going to be forced to upgrade when your existing computer finally conks out (it is now at an age where the power supply can fail, the drive can crash etc., and it isn't worth fixing if it breaks now).

You also get the benefit of having a second, highly portable computer that is going to be perfectly capable of basic web surfing and e-mail etc. well into the future, and effectively you paid only $200 for it, since you saved the cost of upgrading a Vista machine.

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Depends on how much you don’t mind computer crashes?

by Michael Tsark - 1/9/09 11:44 PM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Thank you for asking, Jerome T..

I asked the equivalent question when I had purchased my first computer with Windows98 Second Edition. When the RoadRunner technician arrived to hook up the cables I asked for his professional opinion on whether I might be better off paying extra to get the newly released Windows2000, however, I mentioned my priority is to use a computer that works rather than one that doesn’t work. He said it’s best to wait until two years after a new Operating System has been released so that way most of the bugs will have been fixed because all newly released OS’s are still prone to crashing until the bugs are fixed.

If you have the time to spare and don’t mind being a so-called unofficial beta-tester then it would make sense to grab the Windows7 soon as possible so that way you’ll be one of the first to encounter crashing with the new Operating System. When we human beings have way, way too much idle time on our hands we inevitably spend time inventing such things like art & music but after that’s all said and done and when there’s seemingly nothing else for us humans to do in our fight against boredom, that’s when we eagerly buy a new Operating Systems just to see how many times we can see it crash.

Or if you’re like most of us, then all you want is a computer that is most likely to work without crashing, in which case it makes most sense to wait until 2 years after Windows7 have been release.

Up to you?

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It really depends on your preferences.

by Darrell Wright - 1/10/09 12:11 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am still running Windows XP, and probably will continue to until Windows 7 is released. I recall all the bugs Windows had to fix on Windows ME, so I am not in any hurry.

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Don't be among the first on a new OS

by schlice - 1/10/09 12:14 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I know others have said this, but I'd like to add my two cents as well.

This discussion really hinges on when your current computer actually decides to die. If it dies soon, go with Vista. If you can hang on until Windows 7 is released, try and hang on until after Windows 7 has its first Service Pack released before going to it.

Being one of the first people to run the first iteration of a new operating system is always problematic. Every release of Windows has fallen victim to this same problem. Vista was the same when it was first released. Generally, by the time a software company is ready to release its first Service Pack, the system has had the large majority of bugs flushed out.

Why don't they catch these things in testing before the product goes live? Primarily because they can't re-create every single operating environment or combination of hardware in their testing. The O/S is therefore bound to meet an environment that was never tested and is not correctly supported. It is not until the O/S makes it out into the hands of the general population that they really get a feel for the types of environments that it will be installed into, and they start getting feedback on what's working and what's not.

A Service Pack is released when the manufacturer has enough bug fixes collected which they determine are beneficial to the whole install base. They bundle them all together in a Service Pack. A Service Pack is almost like an incremental release; third party software vendors can know that you have all of those updates installed if you have the Service Pack, so they can require you to have a particular Service Pack level in order to install their software (i.e. Windows XP Service Pack 2 or SP2).

If your PC can hang on until Windows 7 has had at least one SP released, then you can pounce.

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Take Vista now...

by Doh_1 - 1/10/09 12:40 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

There's really nothing wrong with Vista (and a lot right) on new hardware that's designed for Vista. It is more secure and reliable than Windows XP, and I've enjoyed using it for about the last 6 months or so. I have a newer desktop, Intel Quad-core, 1.33GHz FSB, 3Gb. of 800MHz. memory, and it runs Vista faster than the system that I bought with Windows XP ever ran that. When Windows 7 comes along I plan to upgrade to that, since it is Vista at it's core, but has a smaller footprint, and some new features.

But personally, I wouldn't wait for the better security of Vista, the principle of running at lowest necessary privilege level is a good one. I had Windows XP set up with 4 limited (user) accounts and 1 admin account, and I've found that it is much more work trying to do that on XP than do the equivalent on Vista.

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what specs?

by kensplace - 1/16/09 11:44 PM In reply to: Take Vista now... by Doh_1

"by Doh_1 - 10/01/09 00:40

There's really nothing wrong with Vista (and a lot right) on new hardware that's designed for Vista. It is more secure and reliable than Windows XP, and I've enjoyed using it for about the last 6 months or so. I have a newer desktop, Intel Quad-core, 1.33GHz FSB, 3Gb. of 800MHz. memory, and it runs Vista faster than the system that I bought with Windows XP ever ran that.
"

What specs did the XP system that you bought before vista have?

A lot of people upgrade their computers to run vista, and when it runs fast they think vista is great - but have they tried XP on the same spec as the vista machine to see if its faster than vista, or are they just using a much faster computer now so vista can cope easily and run faster than xp did on older hardware?

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Windows 7

by jose_luis2006 - 1/10/09 1:24 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I would not install Vista at any price, even for free. IMO you have then two options:
-install the win2K pro you already have (I think it is close to be the best MS ever produced) or,
-buy a WinXP on the second hand market and use it until Wint 7 arrives, it is stable (enough) and has been tested by other people. I believe we should learn from our mistakes and not trust blidly on MS marketing hype.
After all, there is a third option, cheaper but not so flexible as Windows, unless you are familiar with Linux:
- install a "free" Linux distribution, such as Ubuntu and give Linux a try.
Good luck!

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try both for the best of both worlds

by jerryjhun - 1/10/09 1:40 AM In reply to: Should I wait for Windows 7 or move on to Vista now? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

i've heard microsoft is planning a scheme in which if u buy vista after some point, u'll get windows 7 for free.
consider that

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