Community Newsletter: Q&A: When do you think is the best time to buy consumer electronics?
- 11/21/08 4:30 PM
I agree....
by afro2358 - 12/1/08 5:14 AM In reply to: I agree the President is a figurehead, but... by kevb1959Yes, As far as i'm concern, President Bush is by far the Worst President in my lifetime, and i'm 58 years old. But, what concerns me now is looking forward with this Economy. We are Totally "Broke", we (United States)are so far in Debt it's crazy. And it seems like the way the New President want to solve this problem is to do what President Bush has already done and as you can see it's not working. We just can not spend our way out of this mess,where is all this money going to come from? I'm no economist, but, there is no way in hell you can do this or keep doing this. The United States can't keep running to China to borrow money. I would say "Let all these Companies (Citigroup, all 3 Auto Makers, and the like) fail and file for Bankruptcy and let the chips fall where it may. Taxpayers money should not be used to be bailing Private Companies out of situations they put themselves in. No Company should be "Too Big To Fail". That money should be use to bail-out "Main Street" not "Wall Street". Like i always said: "Capitalism is what got us in this mess, and Capitalism is what going to fail us as a nation". Worst case senario, what will happen if a Communist China Calls back all their loans from the United States?
I think what Obama has in mind is more like FDR's plan...
by kevb1959 - 12/1/08 5:49 AM In reply to: I agree.... by afro2358I know it might sound nuts but rather than giving hundreds of billions of dollars to these corporate grifters. More investment is needed for public infrastructure. Putting people to work, paying people a living wage, and getting cash flow back into our economy. After all our whole financial system is based on speculation rather than something tangible. And because of this once there's money in people's pockets and there's something tangible developed in terms of public infrastructure IE: public transit, road and bridge improvements, as well as leading the world in new forms of renewable energy. It will take some time but I think we'll be alright.
FDR'S plan
by afro2358 - 12/1/08 11:26 AM In reply to: I think what Obama has in mind is more like FDR's plan... by kevb1959I hate to be the one to pull the plug, but, government can not "spend" their way into prosperity, not with the amount of Debt we're already in, it just can't be done. With the type of money (another $700 billions) he wants to spend, where is the money coming from?
Who to blame
by nevido - 12/6/08 8:59 AM In reply to: I agree.... by afro2358I'm Canadian eh. I've met many truly great Americans, lots of them, fine people.
What I never can understand is how the country as a whole, can act so completely different than these fun, considerate, thoughtful, noble men and women that I've met. Should I assume that I only met the best, and there's a huge chunk of bad ones that throw the balance the other way?
Or is there something else going on? I think everyone needs to read George Orwell's "1984".
In it, the people are constantly fed misinformation through the "Ministry of Propaganda" to support wars against other countries, and keep everyone blindly obeying the governments wishes. Anyone who breaks away from that is caught by the spy system and targeted for punishment.
We get a lot of US TV up here and week after week, show after show, there is a terrorist this, and an Al Queda that. A threat here and a threat there. And that is the entertainment channels! The news is even worse! There's a yellow security alert, or a red one, a heightened risk, a possible threat or a dangerous situation. Leaving out 911 (which had the facts swept away so fast I have to wonder) just how many real things have happened to you guys? I'm not talking about suspects captured or explosives found in trunk, I'm talking about real bad things happening. And don't tell me that HS has prevented it all, that's like the old joke that circling your finger in the air keeps lions away... you see any lions... it must be working.
Back to the media. First there's the way you live. Apparently almost everyone in the US has a huge home filled with the best of everything. On one show I watched a guy arguing about American excess, say "Since when is a 'walk-in' refrigerator a luxury"? And on many of the dramas it seems routine for American soldiers/police/secret agents/vigilantes to go into another country and shoot someone and somehow that's OK 'cause he was baad. One NCIS episode had a military team sneak in to Canada to kill someone and when the Director was asked if Canadian Authorities should be notified she said "I'm not going to let a few miles of border stop me"! We're your friends for crying out loud, would it be OK if foreign countries sent assassins in to the US?
So the "programming" part of 1984 seems to be well in place. How about the surveillance? I know for a fact this message will be scanned because I've mentioned enough hot phrases and I hope I don't show up on your news as a "suspect captured" but remember, I do like you guys.
I thought it was interesting when Dubyah got in the second time and a "we're sorry" website went up so those who didn't vote for him could apologize to the rest of the world. A lot of people didn't dare show their face or name. What's up with that? And I have to wonder who is really providing all that free server space for people to upload pictures of themselves and their friends. I think it's safe to say "Big Brother" is alive and well.
But to finish on a positive note. Watch "The Amazing Race" and see how all over the world Americans meet people in foreign countries and are surprised how nicely they're treated. Makes me think they were led to believe differently.
Agreed with you before, but...
by scottjmills - 12/15/08 4:58 PM In reply to: I agree.... by afro2358Capitalism is not responsible for our debt with China or our current situation. Lack of REASONABLE oversight and simple greed from Wall St. to Main St. are. I'm 44, I remember Jimmy Carter very well...you can't seriouly think he did a better job than Bush! Perhaps a little refresher is in order...double digit unemployment, 21% interest (for a mortgage...NOT a credit card) and PATHETIC foreign policy that brought us the likes of the Ayatollahs we enjoy so much in Iran.
Capitalism is our only hope out of this mess, too bad the government (all of them) are busy stepping all over it!
Aaahh shirking......
by Daniel J. Scott, III - 12/1/08 5:22 PM In reply to: Yes, shirking by lcabarneyYou are welcome; but actually, this is something that did not happen during my era, being thanked! I'm not sure it is completly deserved; I soon learned from a young boy of around 10 years of age, after he attempted to steel a Swiss Watch from my wrist,that we were no different in their eyes than any of the invaders that had tramped through his country throughout their history. Then he bravely and defiantly told me; you GI('s)go, get out, leave all(your) money and guns....or...maybe...you die here! The Republican President in 1954 or there abouts put military advisors in that country to prop up a money grabbing husband and wife regime. Once again we thought we could succeed where the French, Dutch and others could not, by attempting to grab the natural resources under the guise of combating communism, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
I believe it was a writer in a New York Paper, the Post, (feel free to correct me if I am wrong<about the paper>). He said that auto workers were making $75.00 an hour and up. This was a dramatic twist on reality on his part, as the only way to come up with an average anything like that would be to figure in the retirees on pention; and the overall costs of health care for current and retired workers and not take into account the consessions the union has made in recent negotiations. In the real world they range between the low to high $20.'s and when you figure in the health and retirement plans for the workers on the higher end it may average close to $30. plus; this is the same underpaid ball park that most skilled carpenters are in, you don't think they should take a pay cut too do you; although it seems unfair that plumbers and many electricians tend to make considerably more per hour? Maybe they should take a pay cut as their jobs could not exist without the builder/ carpenter, for that matter why not the masons, etc. I'm sure in your heart you are a kind person, but you may have been too close to a few situations that offended you; and in one or two cases it was personal, let go! Obama seems to think that, at least at this time, making an example of the excessive people in this ending Administration, is not the bitter path to be following. I understand what he is thinking, and I to some degree can get behind it; but I do hope that in any cases where he can see some possibility of restoration of a sort or blaten criminal acts that can be prosecuted without a circus witch hunt, he will consider the feelings throughout this country. And no I can't forgive the dishonesty of George and Dick, they knew they lied to us all.
We all see the world through our own personal lense. To include others without reservation in that world, who raise our ire, or who we find difficult to understand their thinking or attitudes; is often the connundrum of life in which we find ourselves. I may almost see what you are saying, when it comes to scuttlebutt about Unions, most of which is not true; but knowing the history of this and other countries without them..,you might, but I don't want the alternitive. Bless America, Slainte'.
SHAME
by DR. SCOTT III - 2/22/09 12:30 AM In reply to: Aaahh shirking...... by Daniel J. Scott, IIIShame on you DR. SCOTT
Amen!
by jdk4asu - 11/21/08 7:31 PM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111I used to sell cameras many years ago and was in the retail world for nearly eight years. In just the eight months I sold cameras our number one vendor changed their lineups THREE times! So yes, the answer is buy when you are ready to buy, for the right features and the price that you are willing to pay. I will admit, though, that one of the better times to purchase electronics is during or right after the CES show when all the new stuff comes out. Why? Because the retailers need to move the older stock for the new stuff they just committed for at the CES show, so pricing will be very good in late January to early February.
I also commend you for telling it like it is when it comes to a recession. Thanks to the media we have been hoarding our money for the past six months, all because of some stupid banks giving money to stupid people who either could not understand the contract they negotiated or who really could not have afforded a house but was given one anyways. That is my story and I am sticking to it! LOL!
wake up calls all around
by ghatzo - 11/22/08 5:57 AM In reply to: Amen! by jdk4asujdk4asu
You hit the nail square on the head. The auto industry plus the banks were not looking out for the rest of us. Auto makers just pushed out as many as they could not looking to see what the economy was looking like (oh I‘m sorry, they did look you have to go rent “Who killed the electric car“ eye opener thank Bush and GM for that one, banks with handing out loans like they were candy. Now they are looking to the people they took money from originally to come help them with more of our money. I’m sorry to say this but the U.S.A. has to clamp down and conserve now to the storm passes, let them take a few punches to the face and gut. You know they will survive but with a remembrance of the past. Remember WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR DVD thank you.
High Five on Your Anti-Recession comment!
by Call_Me - 11/22/08 5:30 AM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111I SO agree with you on the recession being a self-fulfilling prophecy! I'm not discounting the Fanny/Freddie debachal or the lay-offs in the auto industry. But, I own a landscape/interior floral company and it is so far, recession-proof! If anything, people are spending MORE money on their homes and interiors because they are traveling less and spending more money in their homes. When I have to wait 20 minutes at JoAnn Fabrics to be checked out and they have SEVEN cash registers ringing up sales...there is NO recession! What in the world does JoAnn Fabrics sell that is necessary? Nothing! Same goes for Whole Foods, Trader Joe's and the other places I go to daily...there is NO lack of people spending-spending-spending! I also have two friends who work at casinos in Michigan and ALL rooms are still booked to capacity and the casino has experienced no loss of gamblers. If you have money to throw away, you are NOT expereiencing a personal recession.
I know that there are people affected by this economical hiccup. But, in my immediate world, people are buying unnecessary things, gambling and going out to eat at expensive restaraunts the same as they ever were.
Please tell me where you live!
by rudymn - 11/22/08 7:13 AM In reply to: High Five on Your Anti-Recession comment! by Call_MePlease tell us what city you live in...I want to move there, because the economy HERE is in the tank!!
=) I agree
by jortony - 11/22/08 9:43 AM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111The economy no longer has a gold standard, we have a confidence standard now. The media makes money on fear which breeds the current break in confidence. I just quit my job and went on a long vacation (in the US), totally broke now, and nearly totally unconcerned. Even if the economy turns to utter crap, I will do better than survive because despite what my actions mean to you, I am really freakin smart (made possible by years of sitting around thinking without fear or perceived limits). This is the type of confidence which has built our country up, and this will return when people stop attributing every business failure and economic model shift to an eventual utter depression.
Recession/Depression?
by niceguy2931 - 11/22/08 10:09 AM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111They called the 1929 depression a recession also.
Buy when you need?
by 01Tang - 11/24/08 6:44 AM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111Buying when you need may be good for you. Obviously you can afford to drop 5K on a hard drive, you are not terribly worried about affording other things that may be less of a luxury item.
For those of us who upgrade their systems closer to the time that we NEED to, than when we WANT to, finding the right sales cycles are important.
You seem to be insulated from such requirements and I commend your fortune. But there enough people out there not hording their money, but putting that 5K towards heating, or towards medical or vehicle bills. Still, those same people would like to upgrade their electronics... they just do not have the disposable income not to wait for a sale like what you are talking about.
Recession? What recession?
by fgfsumh - 11/28/08 11:29 AM In reply to: Recession? What recession? by iHateUserNames1111Not to rain on your party on your reply but the last part of it gave me pause. No I will not partake in the recession because I live well below my means and have enough money to buy especially at this time. Put to employ people to buy, buy, buy, is exactly what put this county and the economy where it's at today. People did buy, buy, and buy until the credit ran out and the bills came due and now look at where they are at now.
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