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Laptop buying advice : What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 10/31/08 3:43 PM
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What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 10/31/08 3:43 PM

Question:

What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks?

Lately, I've been hearing quite a buzz around Netbooks; maybe you've seen one, but these particular laptops are super tiny and cute! I'm currently shopping around for my first laptop, not for a desktop replacement, but a portable computer I can take along with me on my travels. I'm new to laptops, but aren't these so-called Netbooks like every other laptop out there, but just smaller in size? I'm having a difficult time differentiate the two types. Can you give me run down on the differences between the two types of laptops? I want something small in size, but does size matter when it comes to performance or operation? I sure don't want to buy something that won't meet my needs. Any information you can help me with this Netbook vs. laptop decision will help me out a great deal. Thanks in advance.

--Submitted by Donna S.

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Difference between notebooks and netbooks --Submitted by 3rdalbum
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Netbook vs. notebook --Submitted by waytron
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What's a netbook? --Submitted by Watzman
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Netbooks are... --Submitted by choosenotebook
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Netbooks vs Laptops

by bobsco60 - 10/24/08 6:41 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Donna.

Be careful. Netbooks may be what you are looking for: they are small, light, and easy to carry. But, many of them have very small storage systems. Some with as little as 8 GB solid state memory. Some have as much as 160GB hard drives. But be aware also that the batteries may be so small that they last little longer than 2 hours, not enough if you plan to travel long distances. Nearly all of them lack a CD/DVD drive.

Aside from these caveats, they are the wave of the future..

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I agree with bobsco60

by nud12 - 12/4/08 11:08 PM In reply to: Netbooks vs Laptops by bobsco60

I have a similar understanding as bobsco60.

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Smaller, weaker laptops

by Neuro59 - 10/24/08 6:44 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Netbooks are designed for people that just want a portable machine for browsing the internet, or maybe listening to some mp3's.

If this is all you are looking for then a netbook could be just right for you. However, it is good to try something out on your PC first.

The asus EEE netbook for instance has a 800x480 screen resolution. (The newer ones are slightly higher resolution). This to me is the main reason I would never own one. You can test out if this would be something you can deal with by changing your desktop to this resolution on your own computer and try surfing the web with it. I find it hard to deal with anything under 1280x1024 resolution myself. You may not have this difficulty however.

They do have a niche though and their small size, no moving parts design and decent power efficiency make them attractive for mobile users. If size is that important though, you could even look at the smartphones, the itouch from apple or the new g1 from google. This will give you an even smaller size, and doubles as a cell phone.

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what is a netbook

by alien005 - 10/24/08 6:49 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

"A netbook is a streamlined mobile device designed for the Internet, so you can stay connected on the go. Get up-to-date news, the latest scores and weather information, access your e-mail and social networking sites, and enjoy digital videos, photos and music.

"Netbooks may look like laptops, but they don't have the full capabilities of a computer. Instead, a netbook specializes in mobility and the Web, so it's great for travel or as a supplement to your main PC

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(NT) what is tha advatages netbook and notebook?

by bib245 - 8/18/09 6:22 AM In reply to: what is a netbook by alien005

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This Is David Einstein in the SF Chronicle - Oct. 20

by Basuto9 - 10/24/08 7:00 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Q: I'm considering buying a netbook (a mini notebook computer). Aside from the smaller screen and tighter keyboard arrangement, are there other big drawbacks to consider?

A: Netbook is the newest name for something that's been around for years. They're half the weight of a regular notebook PC and considerably smaller. Those are big advantages for business travelers or students who must lug a notebook on a daily basis.

As you point out, there are some disadvantages. Netbook screens are smaller than their notebook counterparts, averaging 9 inches diagonally. The keyboards are smaller, too - although not too much (the keyboard on the HP Mini-Note is only 8 percent smaller than the keyboards on the company's full-size notebooks).

Netbook pricing is all over the map. Entry-level machines running Linux operating systems start at less than $400. But a Windows-based HP Mini-Note with 1 GB of memory and a 120-GB hard drive goes for $600. If you are serious about getting a netbook, I'd shop among Dell, HP and Acer, the leading makers at this point.

Will netbooks finally make it into the mainstream? I'd say yes. In the past, they've failed to catch on because of their smaller keyboards. But to the new generation of users weaned on number pads and the tiny keyboards of cell phones and BlackBerrys, a netbook keyboard must seem gigantic.
(This is from David Einstein's computer Q&A column every Monday in the SF Chronicle. He has a lot of good answers and a lengthy archive. Well worth the trouble to read, and no, he doesn't know me and I don't know him)

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DO NOT BUY A NETBOOK!!!

by youknowhat - 10/24/08 7:01 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

hi, netbooks are the tiny and cheap way of a computer. They lack performance and come with small hard drives and rarely have windows xp or vista as an OS choice. if you do buy a netbook you are going to be 100% dissatisfied in about a day after you bought it!!

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Netbooks are not new...

by Flashfox - 10/31/08 10:00 PM In reply to: DO NOT BUY A NETBOOK!!! by youknowhat

I bought an Acer Aspire ONE w/120GB HDD running in Windows XP, and a 6-cell battery. The Intel Atom processor does a great job for the task... which is surfing, messaging, etc. I use Microsoft Office 2007 without any problems and apart from the small keyboard, it suits me just fine (great for traveling ;-)

This being said, the $350 I paid is a far cry from the SONY Vaio TR3-AP1 I had. Granted, it did have an integrated DVD burner, but size wise and battery life were comparable. The SONY had a single core 1 GHz Celeron while the ONE has a 1.6 GHz ATOM.

I also have an even older, fully functional SONY Vaio PCG-C1X "mini notebook" which runs on a 266 MHz Pentium, with 128MB RAM and running in Windows 98SE. It is smaller, was very pricey (back then) and way ahead of its time.

My point is that the "Netbooks" are not new! They have just been rediscovered and offered at much lower prices due to newer technologies.

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Nothing WRONG with the Netbooks...so why do not buy?

by N0ISV - 11/1/08 8:42 AM In reply to: DO NOT BUY A NETBOOK!!! by youknowhat

After reading the Netbook answers, all of which have the pros and cons of owning a Netbook, only one needed to be corrected! Yes the Netbooks are "tiny and cheap" or better yet, small and inexpensive and have a limited usage. But thats just what they were designed for.
If one knows this before buying a Netbook, their hopes will not be dashed.
My personal experience with a Netbook is...
Frist the HP 1123 Mini Note, top of the line model, 8.9 screen (vista os) and has its pros and cons but works great, and with 0% dissatisfaction.

Second is the MSI Wind U-100, 10.0 screen, (XP os) and it too has its pros and cons, but works great, and with 0% dissatisfaction.

It seems that my Sony TX-650 would have been a good contender in the Netbook craze, although it came along 3 years to early, it fits the bill for a Netbook, even has the CD/DVD drive, but not the cost...$1600.00??? This fact alone would have kicked it out of the Netbook race.

Anyone remember the H/PC days?
HP Jornada 720 and 728? Or the NEC 900 and 900C?
Had Microsoft taken these to the next 3 or 4 levels, this would have been a OUTSTANDING size, weight, and portability compaired to the Netbooks we have now. But their cost then $700-$900 would need to come way down. My Jornada 720 and NEC 900C sure seem better built than the Netbooks.

With some education first, one can decide if the Netbook is for them?

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NETBOOKS ARE OKAY

by lv7fo - 4/20/09 4:40 PM In reply to: DO NOT BUY A NETBOOK!!! by youknowhat

I disagree i have a NETBOOK and i have a 20 gig harddrive you can get different ones !! This doesnt lack performance when im watching vids on youtube its clear. i dont know bout windows xp and all that but the net is quick and useful

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They almost always have XP

by ArtDecoAutomaton - 9/3/09 5:40 PM In reply to: DO NOT BUY A NETBOOK!!! by youknowhat

I know lots of people that love their netbook but I think they all have a desktop or more powerful laptop at home as their main hardware.

Don't listen to people that say netbooks rarely come with XP.

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RE: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks?

by pcrx_greg - 10/24/08 7:40 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Netbooks are an underpowered computer in a notebook form factor. Netbooks are designed for basic internet access only. They are built to surf the web and get e-mail, but if you wish to do any type of computing work, i.e., spreadsheets, gaming, databases, etc., you will need a full notebook. Netbooks are built with the new Intel Atom processor which is a really low power cpu that is designed to extend battery life by minimizing performance. A true netbook will come with Windows XP installed because it is not powerful enough to run Vista. If you are just looking for something small and lightweight but with enough power to be a true computer, you might want to look at something like the HP 2133 Mini-note PC or a Samsung Q1 Ultra Mobile PC which uses a tablet PC form factor.

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Gaming and databases?

by 3rdalbum - 12/20/08 6:01 AM In reply to: RE: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by pcrx_greg

I must object to the comment of "If you do spreadsheets, gaming or databases you need a full notebook".

Spreadsheets can be done perfectly well on netbooks. If people could do spreadsheets on an Apple 2, I'm sure they can do them on a netbook.

If you want to do gaming, then a "full notebook" is not appropriate either. You need a desktop to properly play games, because no notebook is really powerful enough.

If you're using small databases for whatever trivial reason, then netbooks also work fine. If you're working with enterprise-level databases, then a "full notebook" will not float your boat either.

I'd also take exception to "A true netbook will come with Windows XP installed". To my mind, putting Windows XP on these machines is an attempt at coercing them towards doing things that they are not really designed for, and encouraging users to treat them as a fully-fledged notebook. A good Linux distribution for netbooks will have a customised interface for the small screen that makes it quick to get at the tasks you want to accomplish, be optimised for the processor and chipset, and provide a bit of flexibility for application installing.

Linux is the true operating system for the netbook, because it's been tweaked for netbook use. Windows XP is an ancient desktop operating system that's been shoehorned onto netbooks because its replacement will not run well. For example, ever wondered why Windows-based netbooks have hard disks rather than SSDs? It's because XP doesn't properly support SSDs, and they would start breaking down very quickly with the way XP treats them. You get poor write performance too. XP has an obsolete and ineffective security system that forces you to waste precious processing power on anti-virus software - processing power that is at a premium on a netbook.

No, Linux is an appropriate operating system for netbooks. Windows XP is not, unless your "netbook" is four or five years old.

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A comparison table (that may need reformatting to read!)

by kerkar - 10/24/08 8:36 PM In reply to: What's the difference between Netbooks and notebooks? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS NETBOOK NOTEBOOK
Price Under $500 $400 - $3,000
Processor Intel Atom Intel or AMD Dual Core
Memory Hard Drive (80 GB) or Solid State (16 GB) Hard Drive (80 to 250 GB)
Operating System Linux or Windows XP Home Windows Vista
Screen 9” - 10” 12” – 17”
Weight Under 3 lbs 5 to 9 lbs
DVD / CD Drive None [cannot load software except through download] Yes; CD, DVD, Blue Ray options based on price
Webcam / Microphone Option Option
Wi Fi / Blue Tooth Yes / Option Yes / Option
Application Software Limited such as Sun Open Office Full Office Suite from Microsoft (Option)
Target Use Internet Surfing Full Personal Computing. Entertainment center with options.

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