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by spacevybe - 4/28/08 6:53 PM
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Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10

by spacevybe - 4/28/08 6:53 PM

I am a long-time MusicMatch Jukebox user who was dismayed to learn of MMJB's absorption into the terrible Yahoo Music Player last year. I've still been using MMJB as my primary player on my XP desktop computer, but it's not compatible with my new Vista laptop, so I'm starting to branch out and look for alternatives. For now I've succumbed to using iTunes which is so terrible it makes my head want to explode every time I use it. It's true that MMJB had it's problems (being a tremendous memory hog and very slow in responsiveness with large libraries are two of my major complaints, in addition to random software bugs), but some of its features were more than just convenient - they shaped how I listen to and organize my music, and I cannot imagine living without them. Anyone know of a solid player that incorporates most of the following MMJB features in one nice package? (Sorted from most important to least important):

1. Separate playlist window from library window.
I routinely add random tracks into an ad hoc playlist by double-clicking songs in my library and in Windows Explorer. I do not want to have to drag tracks into a specific playlist that I must save and name, and I do not want whatever is playing to stop when I double-click a file. I need to see both the library and the playlist at the same time.

2. The ability to “audition” a song without adding it to a playlist or playing the next song in the library when it finishes.
MusicMatch calls this the “preview” feature.

3. Robust tagging tools.
I need to be able to apply certain fields to multiple tracks at once – artist and album info, album art, etc. I also love MMJB’s “Super Tagging” features, as I am anal about making sure my MP3’s are named and tagged as accurately as possible and according to my organizational system. “Lookup tags” from the MMJB online database was worth the cost of MMJB Plus by itself, in my opinion.

4. Customizable tag fields.
I like having “Featured Artist” as a field, as well as “Sub-genre” to help me organize my music.

5. A built-in batch converter.
Sometimes I have a WAV file or WMA that I would rather have as an MP3 and vice versa. I want to be able to choose the bitrate and convert the file easily.

6. The ability to “watch folders” to add files to the library automatically.
I move files around all the time, and not having to remember which files I recently added to my music folder in order to add them manually is a big plus.

7. A vertically-thin MiniPlayer that can be set to “Always on Top”.
I like to always have my music player on top of other windows without taking up too much space. I’ve used MMJB’s “Pegasus X” skin for years, for this very reason.

8. Customizable library views.
Usually I want all my tracks listed out flat, but sometimes I want them grouped by album art, date added, or genre.

Apparently this is a lot to ask, as I have yet to find a player with even a fraction of these features. Smoke starts billowing out of my ears every time I mention this to someone and they reply, “Why don’t you just use iTunes like everyone else?” Grrrrr… Any other audiophiles have suggestions? Sorry for the rant.

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MusicMatch alternative

by JmpnJimBob - 5/7/08 8:15 AM In reply to: Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10 by spacevybe

Have you had any luck finding a good MusicMatch alternative? I too am an old MusicMatch user. I've been using it for 8 years or more. I never did the upgrade to Yahoo Music Jukebox and from what I've read I'm glad that I didn't. But now that I'm trying to re-install MusicMatch (on XP) I'm having some issues.

Version 10 just seems to not work right. It did install but just seems to be trying to open and run many other routines and just sort of hangs up. I've found some older versions and am using version 9 right now. It works more or less OK and doesn't nag you about upgrading too much (even with the periodically check for updates choice unchecked). But the issue now is that there seems to be no way to get my plus upgrade key validated. So I’m stuck with slower rips and a few other of the advanced features unavailable.

I do have an iPod and have used iTunes, but do not like it. Even with a heavy hand in the preferences turning off as much of the stuff that is in there as possible, forcing iTunes to rip to MP3 and adjusting the bit rates, etc, it still isn’t as handy as MusicMatch.

So what do we do next? Have you had any luck finding an alternative?

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can run MMJB on Vista

by spacevybe - 5/7/08 10:21 AM In reply to: MusicMatch alternative by JmpnJimBob

I did a little bit of Googling and found out that it *is* possible to run MMJB on Vista - you just need to ignore the warnings when you're installing it and make sure you always run the program in XP compatibility mode. Only glitch I've noticed so far is that the built-in volume control won't work. So I'm using MMJB for the meantime but still looking for alternatives...

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MMJB

by toledo79 - 1/3/09 3:24 PM In reply to: can run MMJB on Vista by spacevybe

how do I make sure that I am running the XP compatible mode?

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Good rant...

by tomsoundman - 5/7/08 8:31 AM In reply to: Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10 by spacevybe

I agree totally with your points but I'm no help, looking too for similar things...

Hate what Yahoo Music has become, also anal about my tags, etc. Almost convinced myself to go itunes and get a shuffle because I don't do a lot of portable listening.

Hopefully we will get some action on this topic!

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Amen brother

by Richdk - 5/13/08 8:44 AM In reply to: Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10 by spacevybe

It seems that MMJB was the pinnacle of MP3 organizers as I, too, have not found a replacement.

The online user-managed music database is sorely missed. I listen to a lot of Japanese Pop & Rock and used to easily be able to obtain tags for the songs on an album (in Kanji). Now, in order to enter the Kanji, I have to load the album manually in WMP and then copy the files over to MMJB. Major pain.

MMJB was an elegant, practical app, so it makes sense that they killed it. :(
I wish Mozilla would start an MP3 project ala Firefox...

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Spoke too soon

by Richdk - 5/13/08 8:50 AM In reply to: Amen brother by Richdk

I didn't think to check before I posted, but there is a Mozilla desktop MP3 player project called Songbird.

Has anyone tried that yet?

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Tried WinAmp

by RobertBrown30 - 5/18/08 4:20 AM In reply to: Amen brother by Richdk

I'm using WinAmp at the moment which sounds like it has at least some of the features you are asking for, although can't see the preview option. Have you tried this already? From what you are saying I wish I had tried out MMJB before now, ack well.

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Another MM junkie without a good fix

by ncharkow - 6/9/08 10:24 PM In reply to: Tried WinAmp by RobertBrown30

In this case, misery doesn't like company. So sad to hear nobody has found a good alternative to MM since Yahoo stuffed it up. After many attempts at other software (Winamp, iTunes, etc.), I ended up settling for Media Monkey. Nowhere near as good as MM but the closest I could find. With all the companies out there trying to come up with something new, a huge opportunity awaits somebody to pick up where MM left off (or where Yahoo took over). I was hoping somebody knew how to turn on (hack) the Lookup Tags feature.

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Try J.River Media Center.

by fbbbb - 6/11/08 9:22 AM In reply to: Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10 by spacevybe

$40, but IMO worth it if you use more than a handful of its features.

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mmjb rip

by dwrbach - 6/12/08 2:18 PM In reply to: Looking for good replacement for MusicMatch Jukebox 10 by spacevybe

spacevybe, et al...we are birds of a feather! i, too, am a long-time mmjb user and was absolutely gutted when yahoo offered a mess of a player as a replacement. a desecration, really. i've tried songbird, it's okay but, i'm not too familiar with it. i just love the way mmjb organises my music library. what was yahoo 'thinking?!?'
eagerly awaiting some bright spark to meet this niche in the market...

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no tag editor comparison

by clint1a - 6/30/08 11:08 PM In reply to: mmjb rip by dwrbach

i m in the same boat. the closest jukebox i found is media monkey. i m still looking for a tag editor like mmjb that can do lookups using song signatures. the worst part for me s that none of the editors or jukeboxes can handle chinese/unicode tags like mmjb. i m so bummed.

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musicmatch

by COKEDUDE - 10/23/08 2:56 AM In reply to: no tag editor comparison by clint1a

I still use musicmatch with no problems. Why is everyone having problems with musicmatch?

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Super Tagging

by norteq - 10/24/08 2:38 PM In reply to: musicmatch by COKEDUDE

Because, the super tagging feature no longer works.
No other program in the world has it that I am aware of.
Media Monkey sucks. No actually it super sucks. (hee, hee)
All of the supposed tagging programs are really just manual tagging.
No thanks!
I cannot understand and so far no one can tell me why someone else has not jumped on this very powerful feature. I would gladly pay for it just to be able to organize all of the burned CD's I have that I can no longer remember who the artist and title are but MusicMatch would catch it every time perfectly.

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Not alone!

by KsuGuy - 11/22/08 12:25 PM In reply to: Super Tagging by norteq

I'm so glad I'm not alone anymore!! :) I still use MMJB since I too haven't found a suitable replacement. I don't suppose anyone knows how to re-enable the plus features on it? Like enhanced cd burning and saving playlists and all that? I tried the "other" player that happened to take over MMJB and it was miserable. Bad idea. But I too would love to hear about whatever replacement somebody finds.

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