Home audio & video: new HDTV--Panasonic or pioneer
Bigger is better
by GENE8 - 10/3/08 11:41 PM In reply to: new HDTV--Panasonic or pioneer by EsmeHYou will be making a smart choice by getting the biggest TV screen you can afford if you have the space for it. But you gave no specific information as to what HDTV you're looking for, except the brand names. Do you want an LCD? or a Plasma?
size does not necessarily mean you get the better PQ
by Pepe7 - 10/4/08 7:56 AM In reply to: Bigger is better by GENE8Your advice is too general to be useful w/o knowing what setup/room parameters he has. Let's pretend the room is 15x30', but the family only ever sits within 10' of the TV. Why would he want to get anything larger than around 50"? What if his eyes prefer the PQ of a 46 or 50" panny plasma but he uses your advice to buy a larger Sammy that he ends up w/ buyer's remorse(?) <understanding where you're coming from, but playing the devil's advocate>
question was about size only
by GENE8 - 10/4/08 10:02 AM In reply to: size does not necessarily mean you get the better PQ by Pepe7Esmeh said he/she wanted a 52" TV, so I suggested that esmeh get the biggest size screen for his/her space, which would be a 52" anyway, since esmeh said he/she had the space for it. The question esmeh was asking was, is bigger better or smaller better? esmeh did'nt seem to me to be asking about the picture quality. That's why I asked what kind of TV esmeh was looking for, LCD or Plasma. The type of TV will determine what picture quality would be best for that particular screen size. Also, esmeh did'nt mention exactly what the size of the room was, or how far he/she will be sitting, only that he/she had enough space.
room is very large approx. 20 x 20, and we do
by EsmeH - 10/4/08 10:33 AM In reply to: question was about size only by GENE8sit easily 12-15' back from the screen. How is led diff from plasma?
thanks
get the biggest you can possibly get, afford, fit
by jostenmeat - 10/4/08 1:27 PM In reply to: room is very large approx. 20 x 20, and we do by EsmeHat 12-15 ft. I sit at 15 ft, and use a 159" screen, after using calculators, and spending a week throwing the pic up on a blank wall. I'm not saying you need a display that big, but definitely do not skimp on size!
try this calc:
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html
You can have a big screen
by GENE8 - 10/4/08 11:49 PM In reply to: room is very large approx. 20 x 20, and we do by EsmeHWith the room size you have and the sitting distance you'll be in, a screen size of 50' to 60' max. should be good. Both LCD and Plasma are flat-panel TVs. LCDs generally only go as big as 52', but plasmas can go from about 40' to 65', so you have a wider selection of screen sizes to choose from with Plasma. LCD TVs weigh less than Plasmas do, but have a less natural-looking picture than Plasmas. They are also less subject to burn-in than Plasmas and use less energy than Plasmas. Plasma TVs are suppose to have more lifelike colors, deeper blacks, and a wider viewing angle(image does'nt fade when you look from the side, as with LCD TVs and monitors). If you are concerned about using up a lot of energy, don't want to worry about image burn-in, and want to watch TV under any lighting, then go for LCD. If you want a richer-looking picture and want to be able to watch TV from off-axis under more controlled lighting, then go for Plasma.
that was great info!! what about LED?
by EsmeH - 10/5/08 8:59 AM In reply to: You can have a big screen by GENE8is that yet another option, or am i mixing up my abbreviations?
thanks
LED-a new technology
by GENE8 - 10/5/08 10:15 AM In reply to: that was great info!! what about LED? by EsmeHLED is a new technology that just recently came out a few years ago. It is different from LCD and Plasma, because it is not a TV display in itself, but a method of backlighting that is used to take the place of the lamps used in DLP and LCD TVs. As of now, there are no TVs on the market that have LED displays, although Sony is supposed to be introducing one called OLED (Organic Light Emitting Diode).Flat-panel TVs will need to have their lamps replaced after certain hours of use (usully 10,000 hours if the tv is on 24/7 without being turned off). TVs that use LED lighting do not use lamps, so there is no need for lamp replacement. That means the hours of operation without picture interruption is not an issue with an LED-powered TV.
COST of LED backlighting
by mmayer54 - 10/5/08 10:34 AM In reply to: LED-a new technology by GENE8The new LED backlit LCD flat panels are extremely expensive. The new Sansung LN55A950 ($4,299) and the LN46A950 ($3,299) MSRP.
However, the LED backlit DLP rear projrction sets are a "real bargain". With a long life and great contrast ratio, a 61" to 67" 1080p from Samsung can be found for "under $2,000"!
GENE, I appreciate your good intentions
by jostenmeat - 10/5/08 11:16 AM In reply to: You can have a big screen by GENE8but its not about room size- its about viewing distance- which she has described.
At 15' from a 60" display, assuming perfect 20/20 vision, she will not benefit, whatsoever, in the slightest, 1080p. She will enjoy 720p.
At 15' from a 50" display, 480p is good enough. She will not, cannot, discern any difference of even 720p.
At 12' from 60" display, she will get FULL benefit of 720p. 1080p is still completely useless.
At 12' from a 50" display, she will get decent benefit of 720p. 1080p is useless.
Plasmas are the best pic for flat panels. Not only are they the best pic, they are also the best value. LCDs use comparable amounts of energy: plasmas are rated for maximum output, but who watches a blazing bright white screen all day long? True usages are much more comparable than not.
Now, if we start talking about RPTVs, and bigger size, and bigger budgets, Id bee-line right towards Sony XBR-2 SXRD 70". I wouldnt be surprised if all of them have been snatched up since they are discontinued recently. $5k msrp however.
jostenmeat
ps re 15', 12', 50", 60", or any combo therof, you can plug into the calc I linked for viewing angle.
*sigh*
(NT) and hence my recommendation to get the biggest you can fit
by jostenmeat - 10/5/08 11:17 AM In reply to: GENE, I appreciate your good intentions by jostenmeati thought i wanted plasma...
by EsmeH - 10/7/08 1:21 PM In reply to: Bigger is better by GENE8my research tld me that for my viewing, probably plasma would suit me....am wrong? ad I think you are probably right about bigger is better...but don't the prices go up significantly after 50"??
big tv
by leroy slater - 10/4/08 5:14 AM In reply to: new HDTV--Panasonic or pioneer by EsmeHI can only say want I would look for: natually it has to be hdtv, it should be as big as possible, must accept blue-ray inputs. short refresh rate, go to the store and stand real close to look at the pixals, future back will make even a cheap tv look good. must accept satelite receiver, for any local or network stations will only be a waste of your money, the tv most certainly needs out-put to your computer, so that you can make a copy of all you watch, no sense of watching something only once! Needs to have input from your computer to play back downloads or saved movies. I really like VHS because you can pause back-up and continue if some idiot talks when I'm watching a movie. And if you have idiots that talk when the tv is on, then you need headset output jacks on the tv. And I guess that a good extra would be the capability to output to a remote tv, so you can retire to the bedroom to finish your show. and 5.1 audio out-put is a given. things i think are important just aren't yet on the market, just normal cheap stuff to please the average family putting up with each other. I'm sorry about the negative side of tv, I'm 64 and started with black & white I love Lucy, I have tastes now.
Ok, some good new points...
by EsmeH - 10/4/08 7:24 AM In reply to: big tv by leroy slaterall my friends and neighbors with their input will be gad to hear 'bigger is better'. Will check out the 'stand close/pixel' thing, to. I think plasma is the better alternative for me ($$ being a factor) shouldn't this be OK?
thanks
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