Spyware, viruses, & security : Can You Really Have 2 Anti-Viral Programs on One Computer?
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by yoeyar - 9/23/08 12:47 AM In reply to: EXPLOTABLE....INCOMPATIBILITY CAUSES EXPLOITS by fratmetaphysicsNice pairs!
Most all firewalls ....
by Larry38 - 10/1/08 9:17 AM In reply to: EXPLOTABLE....INCOMPATIBILITY CAUSES EXPLOITS by fratmetaphysicshave an Auto Shutdown feature that will shut down windows firewall when installed.
Personally I have tried a good number of firewalls when I was looking for a replacement for ZA, finally settled for Online Armor paid version, it had many features that I liked.
I have installed Avast Free, SUPERAntiSpyware Paid and Online Armor Paid, these programs serve my purpose and run good together. Also have many on demand backups as well as use a few online scans.
HTH
Larry
Generally Not Recommended
by Someones - 9/24/08 1:47 AM In reply to: Can You Really Have 2 Anti-Viral Programs on One Computer? by analyzerbunnyIt's generally not recommended to have more than one real-time antivirus because they can cause conlicts. However, I've heard a few people try AntiVir free real-time with Avast real-time except for the Resident shield (so all the Internet shields are used) for extra protection.
Antiviral Programs
by thunder_boy_123 - 9/24/08 7:49 AM In reply to: Can You Really Have 2 Anti-Viral Programs on One Computer? by analyzerbunnyThe advice that the tech gave that person is unusual, Fixit 8 is sold in Canada and USA as System Suite 8 and is an all in one that is far superior to the freeware that was advised, which has shown me that only 1 antivirus program should be used as I have had crashes when any 2 were installed, but that is juat my experience.
I have been using System Suite 8 for almost a year now and it is a great all around program. I would never use freeware when this is available as it actually does a good jog in all areas, especially virus protection.
Also, I have used the freeware mentioned, and while it is good, I would never consider it to be be good enough as a primary protection for my network (3 home computers for personal and business purposes)
This person should contact the provider of the program, Avenquest, as there is a 2 year support and reinstall available, but only if activated, which is an excellent feature for only $10.00
Sincerely,
Paul
3 Virus & 2 Firewalls. Guess I'm Chicken !!!!!!
by lonewolf0 - 9/29/08 12:46 PM In reply to: Can You Really Have 2 Anti-Viral Programs on One Computer? by analyzerbunnyI guess I'm chicken. I have 3 running all the time and, even then they don't always catch everything. When I get the message you were talking about ,and I do.I temporarily just shut down the one running load the other and retart the computer. I must warn you though running that amny antivirus programs has a side effect. It will slow down your computer. I'm so chicken I also run 2 seperate fire walls too. I hope this helps you out.
lonewolf0
Conflicts
by Someones - 9/29/08 7:55 PM In reply to: 3 Virus & 2 Firewalls. Guess I'm Chicken !!!!!! by lonewolf0I think that will have a large chance of conflicting. How does 2 firewalls increase protection anyway?
This is likely to leave you
by Tarq57 - 9/29/08 10:00 PM In reply to: 3 Virus & 2 Firewalls. Guess I'm Chicken !!!!!! by lonewolf0less, rather than more protected.
You're fortunate that you haven't had conflictions/lookups yet. If the applications get into a tussle over removing/blocking something undesirable, it could actually offer a weakened attack surface.
A little education about what holes to plug in the OS would go a long way, I think.
Read about that here: http://www.mechbgon.com/build/security2.html
It's an introduction to layered defense, a term well worth reading about.
regarding anti-virus programs
by wayne561965 - 10/1/08 10:54 AM In reply to: This is likely to leave you by Tarq57i can see your points but you thing is i have used these programs together for ages now.
i bought windows vista the week it came out on sale.
i have also had the same programs on it anti-spyware and norton internet security agv and spyware doctor and privacy guard.
shurely if i was going to get a problem it would have hit me by now after all this time.
Wayne,
by Tarq57 - 10/1/08 12:30 PM In reply to: regarding anti-virus programs by wayne561965unless the "agv" you have installed is actually AVG antivirus (as opposed to AVG AS) the line up you have doesn't inherently conflict. Although you probably have a fair bit of overlap.
So you aren't really in a position to know, based on that.
Not a good idea
by Someones - 10/1/08 6:57 PM In reply to: regarding anti-virus programs by wayne561965As a previous poster said: "You might get away with it, you might not. If you don't, the first clue might be when the two AV's lock up should real malware be detected. Not a good time to have a locked up computer."
In addition to that, it'll consume a lot of system resources for very little additional protection.
Also, I've heard that using more than one real-time antispyware could reduce protection. I'm not sure if that also applies to antivirus as well, though I'm guessing it does.
in reply to you Tarq57 about mechBgon's guide
by wayne561965 - 10/2/08 1:47 PM In reply to: This is likely to leave you by Tarq57i was interested by a few points raised there in that article.
first i never make online transactions or use my bank card for anything at all,conected to the internet.
i fully understand the point raised about user accounts good point telling others mate.
all my programs i run are set to auto update but i double check them anyway force of habit im afraid there.
i always scan everything first after i save it to a second hardrive on my pc before i open the item.
i do regular back-ups too.
regarding rouge antispyware,my friend recently downloaded somthing to his pc and got a anti-virus he never wanted on his system called anti-virus 2009.
he then found he had a trojan vundo on his pc and as for that a week later his pc was rendered totally useless.
he ended up doing a re-format to his pc.
however with me i am of the cautious nature anyway.
but in saying that i also scan each disk i use in my pc too.
my friends think im wasting my time doing that but i feel the need to.
but you are raising a few good point to any new users even i have read somthing new i didnt fully understand before to be honest my friend.
on the whole a very good article but the ways i explained my actions isnt ment to be the way i recomend others do things just it has really worked well on my system thats all i am saying.
but yes i understand most of those points and will give it alot of thought to what i read mate.thanks
You're welcome
by Tarq57 - 10/2/08 1:58 PM In reply to: in reply to you Tarq57 about mechBgon's guide by wayne561965That's just one of many pieces of writing on the web about how to secure a Windows operating system. I used it as a (good) example of the practicality and the concept.
The current rogue antivirus 2008 is affecting a lot of computers, is modified frequently and is difficult to kill with the old tools. MBAM and/or SAS seem to be having the best success against this one.
to tarq57
by wayne561965 - 10/2/08 2:30 PM In reply to: You're welcome by Tarq57yeah it hit his system really bad and the trojan vundo was another issue in its self.his dad was a computor wizz and he tryed everything even phoned his old pc mates they looked at it first in the end they removed it between them and after 2 days it seemed to manifest again there virus scanners said it was clear hence,hence the reformat in the end.
he put it back on the same as mine using my codes and then hey presto its not turned up in last few days.
and guess what it even runs faster than it did before too.
his dad was well impressed at the speed it runs at and said no more limewire or any other crap it has to stop now.
most probs i here about are caused by limewire and frostwire to be honest most people think it cant be that but oh yes it can.
did on my second pc i proved that the once.
mind you i only have this pc now being honest.
cheers terq57
two virus checkers are okay
by xenbb - 10/4/08 10:54 AM In reply to: Can You Really Have 2 Anti-Viral Programs on One Computer? by analyzerbunnyIn our business http://www.xen.co.za we are online 24/7 we run three Anti virus and adware systems at seperate times of the day. The morning is AVG8, midday is Spybot SD, afternoon, Windows defender.
We have done this for some three years and have never had a problem with Xp nor Vista.
The best part is that we have caught more than a few viruses trying their luck but only one infection from a staff member who overode the protection to copy a data disc for her son. The latter was picked up by AVG during its morning run.
I therefore strongly suggest that if you have the spare resource that you use this method.
Hope this helps
Do we really know our computers?
by trojan destroyer - 10/4/08 2:11 PM In reply to: two virus checkers are okay by xenbbLol, this thread is getting too ridiculous now, first off you are NOT running 3 different Antivirus's on the same machine, your Avg8 is your antivirus app, and windows defender and Spybot search and destroy are your ANTI-SPYWARE applications so of course your machine runs fine...the original question posited by this post , i think has been abundantly answered by now surely?, and it was weather more then 1 Antivirus can be installed and run on the same machine at the same time.........for me personally i wouldnt even let my students surf the net if they didnt know the distinction between an ANTI-VIRUS and an ANTI-SPYWARE app
So once more with feeling this time, of course you can run more then 1 Antivirus on your computers, hey why not install 5 or 20 for good measure if you think that will make you safer, BUT WE STRONGLY CAUTION AGAINST IT AND MY ADVICE WITH THE OTHER TECHIES WHO HAVE RESPONDED TO THIS POST IS DONT DO IT, as in this case "more" is simply not better
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