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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 9/18/08 9:21 AM
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Post 76 of 152

seen as you have vista make use of windows movie maker.

by tims4 - 9/6/08 10:08 AM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

windows vista makes it quite easy to import camera footage, i would suggest making use of a firewire cable to connect it to the laptop (if this is an option) as i find it slightly more reliable than USB for this purpose (could just be my camera). just go to the start menu, hover over all programs and open up windows movie maker (towards top of list) when it loads up click on 'from digital video camera' under the import header (make sure camera is connected and turned on first). from here on it is quite self explanatory and does most of the work for you. you can edit the movie from the same tool. for the burning aspect you can either burn straight from this tool to CD or create a video file and place it onto your hard drive. if you do publish to hard drive the i suggest using Nero Vision to burn the DVD as this allows you to create DVD menu's which just give the disc a finishing touch and professional look. you can however use Nero vision to do the importing from the camera, but its slightly more fiddly than using windows movie maker, and i wouldn't recommend this to a beginner (as Nero is aimed more towards professional editing than windows movie maker is).

hope this helps.

generalcaw

Post 77 of 152

minidvt to DVD

by vidserv - 9/6/08 11:08 AM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

This may not be the "best" way, but in our business, which is a video transfer business, we transfer minidvt footage via firewire to a standalone DVD recorder (Panasonic, Pioneer or Sharp). Too many of our customers have incredible problems transferring to a hard disc drive and editing - usually quality problems for which I have no answer. Once the footage is on a finalized DVD-R (your choice, personally hate the problems the DVD+R gave us), then it can go to a computer and be edited via Roxio Easy Media Creator 10, Nero, Pinnacle, or the consumer version of Adobe (or whatever program you wish). Apple based computers are usually all set to go and don't need anything extra.

Post 78 of 152

Transfering Video

by wadazup - 9/6/08 11:12 AM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Alex,
My answer doesn’t exactly fit your mini-DVD question but many steps may be similar. I just spent many hours transferring 20 years of VHS, and Digital 8 tape to electronic storage and I am glad I did. I have noticed the old tapes lose some color and importantly, the transferring hardware can break and you can’t buy a replacement to transfer in the future … so do it when you can. Considerations:
1. Available drivers for your transferring system - Old cameras may not have Vista drivers and manufacturers may not make them. Sony didn’t make one for my old digital 8 so I had to use my XP PC to do the hard work.
2. Software to clean up your video – there are so many products out there and if you have the time to clean up your video and get rid of those unnecessary images and noises why not do it. I found some skipping or dropped frames would happen in the transfer process so I would use the software to identify any dropped video, fix light issues, sound issues, and cut the crap out. Avid and Adobe have great products (see them on CNET) but I went economical and used the Avid – Pinnacle Studio 12 product. I have used Studio for years so I am use to it and it’s quirks. I have also used Adobe Premier but it is a bit more complicated and I consider it more for high-end videophiles.
3. Storage of the end product
a. Disks: from what I understand DVD +R seems to work better when playing on a PC and DVD – R works better on some players. I have found that to be true but my players are a few years old. You may want to reconsider a RW because you can re-write it and these are images you may not want to record over. Video takes up a lot of space and you may be using a lot of disks. If you are considering disks and you have a lot of video then dual layer will take less hard space, but you need a dual layer burner.

b. Storage format: you have a lot of choices and this is where your intended future use is a consideration for the format you choose. I decided to not store the video in the DVD format because no one was going to watch the bulk of my videos right now. I did transfer my video to the avi format assuming technology will advance and the avi format will be easily adaptable with the next technology enhancement. The avi format is also easy for me to use today with the hardware and software I have to make special event DVD movies with menus,transitions and special effects for family events and such.

c. External hard drives and off-site storage. If you have a lot of video you can house electronic media efficiently this way. If these are really important videos to you then it may be worth paying for the off-site storage. In a disaster people seem to miss their irreplaceable photos and video the most. If that is you it could be worth it to pay the price. My video is about a terabyte so I went this way.
In summary, I’d suggest transfer the video to your PC, edit it, and then store it in your final format and media and remove it from your PC. I wouldn’t suggest the RW way in the middle because if you edit it you are moving it to your PC anyway and if there is an issue I find it easier recovering things from my PC. I am no computer buff so I am going to learn a bit from other people’s responses!
Best wishes Cathy Wada

Post 79 of 152

Laptop & Deswketo on home network.

by jweaver74 - 9/6/08 11:12 AM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Your problem vanishes if you set up a simple home network to have the desktop and laptop communicate. Then use the 'shared folder' aspect. All files in the 'shared folde' will be accessable to the all computers on the home network. I have been doing this for years.

Post 80 of 152

Transferring MiniDV

by Osmanthius - 9/6/08 11:48 AM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi,

My Digital Video (MiniDV) is trasferred via a 1394 Connection
The software I use is Pinnacle Studio 9 Plus but there are later versions available.
There are lots of alternative packages which include; Cyberlink Power producer, Roxio and the basic Windows movie maker.

I hope this is of some help

Osmanthius

Post 81 of 152

What about those of us with older mini-camcorders

by alidickson - 9/20/08 3:55 AM In reply to: Transferring MiniDV by Osmanthius

and no firewire ports? I have an older model JVC which I used to capture about 8 hours of video on vacation. Now I'm told there is NO WAY to transfer the tape to my PC b/c the JVC has RCA connections, and there is no adapter (so I'm told) to plug into my pc. (windows xp media center)

The only suggestion given to me has been to plug the JVC into my TV, in which event I MIGHT be able to burn it from the TV directly to my standalone DVD burner.

Would this work? Is there any other solution?

Post 82 of 152

know anyone with a modern digital?

by cdcguard - 9/20/08 7:10 AM In reply to: What about those of us with older mini-camcorders by alidickson

If you know anyone with a digital video camera (hard drive, mini-dv, etc) you can most likely use their camera as a "bridge" to your PC. I have done something similar to transfer VCR home movies to my PC. If you simply hook your camera into the inputs on the digital camera you can then hook the digital camera to the firewire port on the PC. Then you go to the "Capture" mode on your Video software, start the capture and playback the tape you want to capture. If that's too confusing and you don't mind spending the time, you can just use the digital camera to make a copy of the analog video (I'm guessing you're referring to an 8mm or VHS C video camera)then capture it in a separate step.

Post 83 of 152

might be possible

by DADSGETNDOWN - 9/20/08 8:41 PM In reply to: know anyone with a modern digital? by cdcguard

I wonder if he could take the recorded MiniDV tape from his,
and put it into a different camcorder that has ports he can use
just to transfer the tape...?

Post 84 of 152

not likely

by cdcguard - 9/21/08 11:16 AM In reply to: might be possible by DADSGETNDOWN

His camera is not Mini-DV or it would have the necessary ports on it. His camera is most likely VHS-C or Hi-8.

Post 85 of 152

Yea

by DADSGETNDOWN - 9/22/08 4:50 PM In reply to: not likely by cdcguard

Yep, RCA sort of throws you off don't it ?
I was hoping that IF he has alot of hours recorded like he said,
that he must have bought the right tapes Lol.
Which I did ask him to give more info on the camcorder but haven't
seen it yet alough, I think I have seen some with RCA.

(Having taken a lot of hours of movies with my MiniDV Sony camera)

Post 86 of 152

oh, an one more thing...

by cdcguard - 9/20/08 7:19 AM In reply to: What about those of us with older mini-camcorders by alidickson

Whoever is telling you there is "no way" to hook your old camera to your PC is mistaken. There are a few options available to perform this task. The EasyCap is one that comes to mind for me. It has composite and S-video inputs and connects to your computer via USB. I've never used one and don't know how well it works but it can be had with an older version of Ulead VideoStudio for 20 bucks <a href-"http://www.brilliantstore.com/computer_monitor_accessories_dekcell_cpa_1280.html">here</a>.....
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Post 87 of 152

Alot of choices.

by DADSGETNDOWN - 9/20/08 8:51 PM In reply to: What about those of us with older mini-camcorders by alidickson

Actually, I belive you have alot of choices.
You can go from from RCA to 1/8 male or 2.5 MM or
whatever they are, (which is mini headphone jack).
or RCA to all sorts of plugs that go into the video card,
or existing port on the computer.
And you can get it into the computer using either
a port already existing on the computer,
a port on the video card, or even sound card i n some cases.
not to mention USB, RCA TO USB, although will be a slower transfer.

I have a Home DVD RECORDER, that has 3 different inputs for camcorders
and it was cheap. If I remember correctly less than $100 easy.

Post 88 of 152

not exactly...

by cdcguard - 9/21/08 11:21 AM In reply to: Alot of choices. by DADSGETNDOWN

The video card on a PC is an output device not an input device. There are Video Capture cards available that would meet his needs though. And, as mentioned, a standalone DVD recorder would make DVD copies. These wouldn't be able to be edited but, with software, one could rip the DVDs to the PC and work on the files from there.

Post 89 of 152

a little more detail

by DADSGETNDOWN - 9/22/08 4:43 PM In reply to: not exactly... by cdcguard

Maybe I should have given a little more detail. but....
I do have a video card that does capture,
and it's geeez, cheep, and must be 5 years old now.
And the Recorder I have does let you do minor editing,
menus, transition, and background colors and effects.
And that is old and cheep as well.

Post 90 of 152

Mini Digital Video (DV) to DVD

by surfingtheweb - 9/6/08 12:19 PM In reply to: Easiest way to transfer MiniDV footage to PC and edit it by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Alex,

As a video editor myself using a computer with Vista Home Premium, I do the same thing you want to do. Firstly, and foremost, the easiest way to do this is with the IEEE standard 1394, or FireWire (Sony calls it iLink). Your camcorder, being a MiniDV format, should have a four pin FireWire port on it. Your computer also must have one for this to work. The one on the computer, (if you do in fact have a FireWire port) most likely will be a 4 pin, but could be a 6 pin instead. If you do not know what a FireWire cable is or looks like. Check this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewire

So after determining if you do have a FireWire port on your computer, you will need to buy a FireWire cable. These come in 6 pin to 4 pin, 4 pin to 4 pin, and 6 pin to 6 pin. I hope I have not lost you yet...I know it is very confusing to read...

In most cases, connecting a digital video camcorder to a computer (specifically any recent Windows/Mac desktop or a Mac Laptop), will require a 6 pin to a 4 pin. However, most windows based laptops that have a FireWire port will probably have a 4 pin port. So in your case, you will probably need to a buy a 4 pin to a 4 pin cable. These run anywhere from $20 to $50 depending on length.

When you connect the cable to your camcorder and computer, Autoplay should come up on the computer and should recognize the camera. Then it will give you options to capture the video to your hard drive. The best option to choose is to import to Windows Movie Maker.

However, if you do not have a FireWire port on your computer, you can try getting an analog to digital converter. This requires that your camcorder has an analog A/V out. Some really basic camcorders have A/V out, but others do not. So check before you buy.

The analog to digital converters are easy to find at electronic stores. Pinnacle, the company owned by Avid (one of the world's leading video editor software companies) makes a bunch of these with different features for each of them. These retail around $80 to $120. I have seen at least one version with its own FireWire port on it. These work by connecting the analog signal from the camcorder, by using composite cables, to the converter and then it converts the analog video into a digital signal that the computer can read. The video goes through the box and connects to the computer via USB, something your computer should have. The software included with the box helps you capture the video onto the computer. I think it also comes with Pinnacle's video editing software, Pinnacle Studio 12.

Now, video editing software is a different story. Windows Movie Maker 6.0 included with Windows Vista Home Premium, can do everything you want to make a DVD. The program itself can capture from digital video devices (FireWire devices and MiniDV), but it cannot capture from analog sources alone. Microsoft discontinued that support with version 6, but it was featured in earlier versions (such as 2.5 that was with Windows XP Professional).

After you finish editing with Windows Movie Maker, you can export the video and turn it into a DVD with Windows DVD Maker. This program is a very easy wizard that guides you through the process of making a DVD with the videos you want.

If you do not want to use the Windows Movie Maker/DVD Maker duo, or you cannot because of the analog capture problem, there are plenty of other free and good video editing software programs. I personally use Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0, but it costs about $100, and I know you probably want to spend as little money as possible. I understand completely. So after doing a little research while writing this, I came across Pinnacle Video Spin which is a free video editor. However, it does not make DVDs. But if you import the file that you make with Video Spin into Windows DVD Maker, you can make DVD from that.

Lastly, one thing of note that I noticed. If you will be importing hours (instead of just minutes, or seconds) of video, then I recommend that you invest in an external hard drive. Because an hour of video could take up to 13 gigabytes in disk space, you can easily run out of disk space fast. CompUSA in my area, sells a 1 terabyte drive (yes, that's a 1000 gigabytes) for $179.99 and it even includes a FireWire port and cable, along with a USB port. For an external hard drive, especially one that is handling video, FireWire is highly recommended over USB because it is meant for video and it will not fry the hard drive after over use like USB would. There are also cheaper options too, like 320-750 gigabytes of storage with FireWire ports. These hard drives are made by Western Digital and Maxtor.

Well, I hope you did not spend an hour and/or get lost while reading this...I tried to keep it as short as possible and simple. However, a lot goes into the video capturing to DVD making process. I am only 15 and I love editing video and making DVDs too. Hopefully you will be able to make the DVDs you want to make! Have fun.

--Andrew A

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