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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 9/25/08 1:01 PM
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Vista Problems

by dougcohen - 8/22/08 8:59 PM In reply to: go ahead by michaelthegeek

Now I'm thoroughly confused if I should run the update or not. I cannot shut down my computer without taking out the battery because every time I shut it down it reboots. Also, typing is a problem as the cursor keeps bouncing all over the page erradictly. Any advice? Would SP1 for Vista fix this?

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Vista SP1

by gedwards5000 - 8/16/08 1:39 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hello, yes of course you should install SP1, I have not heard of any problems with it once installed and at the very least it seems to speed up the operation of the PC. Before installing from Windows Update, WU will check to see if you have all the previous updates installed which means that SP1 will install without any problems.
I have installed it from WU with no problems on my Acer Aspire 5520 AMD Athlon Dual Core TK55 processor laptop.
However, SP1 will not install on my HP Compaq Presario F500EA AMD Sempron 3400 processor laptop also pre-loaded with Vista Home Premium. It will not download from WU, it will download from Microsoft Download Center but will not install.
I have been in extensive contact with Microsoft and HP about this problem but they have not yet found the answer and they think Microsoft must be working on a Hotfix to solve this as clearly there must be a general problem with either HP PCs or the processor.
Go ahead and install SP1 and let us know how you get on.
Gaz.

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Vista sp1 Patch

by lipreader - 8/16/08 1:43 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Mary,
The vista sp1 Patch is well worth the download as it does cure a lot of problems with verious software that could not be used before.I downloaded it when the sp1 first come out, as before I was having loads of problems, with verious software, and decided to go back to xp. I then decided to give Windows Vista another try, as with all new software you do get problems, but since I have downloaded it.There has been only had one problem and that is the hp printer scanner, which for some reason when loading start up comes up with a dll file missing, I have got onto hp about it and am waiting for a fix on this problem.Apart from that I do seriously think that you should download the Windows Vista sp1

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Vista SP1

by cymrojazz - 8/16/08 2:38 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

There are many good reasons for downloading SP1 and depending on your particular machine just as many obstacles to stop you and reasons not to. Make sure you've backed up all your data, made a restore or back up disk, set a System restore point before you install it and hope for the best. I have installed it on a number of different units with not Vista Business and no probs. It certainly isn't nearly as risky or as foolhardy as trying to install XP SP3!!!
However the one system I can't even get Vista SP1 to install in the first place is on my own Toshiba Satellite Pro (probably because two of my drivers have been corrupted, won't reinstall from the driver disk, the back up disk or windows updates and although there are dozens of threads on the specific driver problems, nobody has yet posted a solution!) But that's another story and another thread!

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Check out Toshiba Support

by paoconnell - 8/23/08 7:28 AM In reply to: Vista SP1 by cymrojazz

Your corrupt drivers probably have replacements, and they're probably on the Toshiba website. If you're still in the free support period, call Toshiba. I had a corrupt installation on my A205 when I first bought it, and the tech stepped me through the re-install. No problems since.

Initally, I had a problem installing Vista SP1, but there's an 800 number to Microsoft that can help you with problems. In my case, some resident program(s) blocked the upgrade. An MS tech sent me info on disabling non-OS programs that might be blocking using the System Configuration tool. Disabling those programs temporarily let the service pack install without problems.

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Go for the upgrade

by jrhmobile - 8/16/08 2:44 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

No, Mary, you haven't beeen foolish. Just cautious. And in upgrading, many would say that's a good thing.

In fact, congrats on your discipline on waiting a bit before doing upgrades. Let others ride the bleeding edge of technology. Once those early adopters report back that it's OK (or failing that, where it's not OK and how to work around it} they've blunted the unknown dangers that may lurk in software upgrades.

It's safe to upgrade to SP1. Go for it. Fortunately, the SP1 upgrade to Vista seems to be pretty OK. Not spectacular, but not malicious either. If you have concerns about installing any software update, you can always manually create a system restore point before upgrading:

Go to your <b>Control Panel</b>, and select the <b>System</b> icon.

On the left, click <b>System Protection</b>.

Slect the <b>System Protection</b> tab, then click the <b>Create</b>
button.

Name the point in the edit box something you'll remember if you need it. Don't worry about entering the date and time, that will be done automatically. You've just created your fall-back position. As long as you can boot the computer in Safe Mode, you'll generally be able to restore your previous configuration.

Good luck. Upgrading shouldn't be a big deal. And if you can keep the discipline and lay back a bit on upgrades, others test it for you and advise you how to proceed. You'll find you're often ahead of the game.

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WIN Vista SP1 Patch

by yeochief - 8/16/08 3:41 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If your computer runs Vista without problems, you should install the patch. No operating system is without problems, upgrades and fixes are required almost daily for all systems. Don't believe anyone who tells you their system doesn't require upgrading, patching, etc..

If your system is running now and doesn't have any problems, installing the SP1 patch is a very good idea. If you never went on line, and never added any programs to your system, you could probably get along without the patch, however, it is obvious that you go online, and probably try new programs from time to time.

I can't promise you that you won't have any problems in the future. There are simply too many variables.

Install the patch!

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Should I download Windows Vista SP1 Patch

by jamillikan - 8/16/08 4:13 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

No. I have been asked this question numerous times by folks with Vista computers and what we've been doing is abandoning Vista entirely, wiping the disk clean and doing a fresh installation of Ubuntu Gutsy or beyond. Everyone so far has been thrilled with the resulting lightning fast computer.

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Post 39 of 273

Wow, way to not answer the question

by jabberwockgee - 8/22/08 10:04 PM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 Patch by jamillikan

The question was whether to install SP1, not whether she should abandon Vista and go to Ubuntu.

Please stay on topic.

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It IS on topic, but...

by _Aquarelle_ - 8/24/08 6:39 PM In reply to: Wow, way to not answer the question by jabberwockgee

... I guess the point escapes you.

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Yes, You Are Being Foolish Not Downloading the Patch

by Flatworm - 8/16/08 5:28 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

This question should have been relegated to the "Simple Question, Simple Answer" area of your Friday newsletter. The problems that Vista SP1 can cause -- VERY minor problems at worst -- are the result of the closing loopholes in Vista that some lazily-developed applications exploited, but that some more energetic bad guys also might exploit.

Do it. Do it today. SP1 not only offers performance improvements but it provides added features that should have been in the initial offering of Vista.

And yes, you can revert to the previous state. I cannot imagine why you would, but you can.

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Wow, way to not answer the question

by jdp06 - 8/22/08 10:27 PM In reply to: Yes, You Are Being Foolish Not Downloading the Patch by Flatworm

It was and she was also advised what could happen unlike some other posts on here. SO MARY DO NOT TAKE SP1!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mary on vista

by gutzzake - 8/16/08 5:55 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

download vista upgade adviser and see if everything is ok.
if ok do so. dink

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Vista SP1

by jonboy710 - 8/16/08 6:54 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have both a laptop and a desk top both running Vista Home Premium I have found no problems in downloading the latest stuff and there are a lot from Microsoft. It seems every week more and more from them.

But I always do a back up of everything before I do any downloading form them just incase something does go wrong, and dont forget there is always the good old standby SYSTEM RESTORE,a life saver at times.

Good Luck John:-)

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No Problem with SP 1

by Ernie Munroe - 8/16/08 8:02 AM In reply to: Should I download Windows Vista SP1 patch? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi Mary:

I have the exact same system as yours and I recently had SP 1 installed and I had no problems. A Restore point is automatically setup before installation begins. I also had it installed on two other computers we have.
I takes quite a long time, around twenty minutes to half an hours to complete and I must admit that I began to get nervous when, during the installation, the screen went black and all of these files were being deleted. SP1 is compilation of all the previous patches, with a few added, for vista so they were deleting all of the old patches.
Hope this helps

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