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1080p programming now available
by Dan Filice - 8/5/08 1:52 PMYou've seen the ad's on TV from Dish Network advertising 1080p programming. It's being offered to all DISH Network customers with MPEG-4 HD DVR receivers. I never thought 1080p would hit the airwaves, but I was wrong.
Only very specific receivers. . .
by Coryphaeus - 8/6/08 4:19 AM In reply to: 1080p programming now available by Dan Filicehttp://forums.cnet.com/5208-7596_102-0.html?forumID=60&threadID=303670&messageID=2827309#2827309
Limited Selection
by indianafanatic - 8/6/08 7:34 AM In reply to: 1080p programming now available by Dan Filice... and it is only for Video-On-Demand. Currently, only 1 movie is being offered in 1080P, but that should change in the coming months.
Confusing
by HTHMAN - 8/6/08 4:05 PM In reply to: Limited Selection by indianafanaticI spent a good bit of time on the Dish site and am not sure what I could get in 1080p. They are offering one movie for $2.99. Are there others at a higher price? Do those listed channels like HBO, HDNet Movies etc broadcast in 1080p. It really does not tell you.
Would it be asking too much of Dish to just make a chart of the channels we can expect to get in 1080p for the extra $10/month?
Dish Network Ads
by Dan Filice - 8/6/08 4:30 PM In reply to: Confusing by HTHMANThe Ads I've seen for the Dish Turbo HD programming make it sound as though EVERYTHING offered with their "Turbo" service is 1080p. It appears that the "Turbo" package is different from their other services. I did see that their 1080p programming required certain MPEG4 HD DVR recievers. I wonder if the DVR receivers have a 1080p scaling chip in them like many upconverting DVD players do. This way, the satellite can continue to broadcast 1080i and the DVR would do the upconverting?
I too am scratching my head.
by grc24 - 8/6/08 7:17 PM In reply to: Dish Network Ads by Dan FiliceI just moved to a new house last week and DishNetworks Dishmover tech was there to get me all hooked up and he didn't say a word about this 1080p VOD stuff. I have the Vip622 reciever and it's connected via HDMI. The picture on the HD channels is stunning as always but I don't believe that it is 1080p...The adds from Dish are confusing to say the least and I'm afraid they are misleading us to believe that they are something they're not. (Vague on purpose maybe.)Only time will tell. You would think that this would be huge news. A "Breakthrough in Technology." type of news but not much going on at all. Hmmmm.
grc
When will this channel be available
by Joe Grubbs - 8/6/08 8:38 PM In reply to: I too am scratching my head. by grc24Question: To celebrate this new era in the high definition viewing experience, DISH Network is offering subscribers a special deal in August to enjoy the unparalleled picture and sound of 1080p high definition programming. Starting August 1, Warner Bros. Pictures' blockbuster "I Am Legend" starring Will Smith will be available in 1080p resolution -- same as Blu-ray(R) Disc quality -- on DISH Network's VOD service, DISH On Demand, at a discounted price. Subscribers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs may order the movie on DISH Network Channel 501. This channel is not been available as it said August 1 2008. I would like an e-mail back, when this program would be available in 1080p and what channel the program would be on. I have a VIP 622 does this need to be upgraded or a download from you.
Please e-mail me a yes or no answer as soon possible
Thank you for your email. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience and confusion caused by this issue. Starting August 1, a software upgrade is rolling to ViP 612, ViP 622, and ViP 722 receivers that will allow Dish Network to offer HD VOD movies in the 1080p resolution. By early August, all DISH Network customers with MPEG4-HD DVR receivers will have the only set-top boxes in the nation that provide HD Video on Demand movies in 1080p (the highest and best HD resolution available) – Customer must have a ViP HD DVR and a 1080p capable HDTV.
1. Please tune to Ch. 501 and locate the 1080p VOD movie and press ‘Select’. Pop up 993 will display asking if you wish to rent the event in 1080p resolution.
2. Selecting ‘Rent’ will perform a resolution test. The test will cause your TV to go to a black screen for up to 15 seconds.
3. If your TV is compatible with the event, the resolution will change to 1080p resolution, and pop up 992 will display asking if you wish to rent the Video On Demand event. This pop up times out, and if you do not select ‘Rent’ within 15 seconds, the screen will go black again for a few seconds, change to the original resolution format, and display pop up 994.
4. If your TV is not compatible with the event, pop up 994 will display after 15 seconds indicating that the TV’s resolution is not compatible. At this point, you can still rent the movie; it will just be down converted to the resolution supported by your TV.
However, if you are not able to see the channel 501 and you have VIP 622 we encourage you to call 1-800-333-3474 at your earlier convenience to speak with a Technical Support Representative regarding this issue 24 hours a day. The troubleshooting process is more effective and can diagnose the problem quicker with direct communication over the phone.
Your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com or reply to this email.
Dishnet
by ldonal - 8/16/08 8:08 PM In reply to: Confusing by HTHMANI have the dish hd package. On my screen saver it says "Congratulations, you have upgraded to dish turbo hd". I called dish and the customer rep told me that the channels are now more clearer. The only movie that says that it is shown 1080p is I am legend on VOD. So far I am happy with the service.
I asked them, here's the answer. . .
by Coryphaeus - 8/7/08 3:43 AM In reply to: 1080p programming now available by Dan FiliceDear Wayne Hardy,
Thank you for your email. On 8/1, Dish Network will become the first satellite television provider to offer 1080p content. We will broadcast I Am Legend in 1080p on channel 501 for only $2.99 for the entire month of August. Currently only Video On Demand is available in 1080p.
Your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to www.dishnetwork.com or reply to this email.
Sincerely,
Artem F.
DISH Network eCare
Pine Brook
What a deal!!
by HTHMAN - 8/7/08 7:44 AM In reply to: I asked them, here's the answer. . . by CoryphaeusIf I understand correctly, you can upgrade for $10/month and they rebate that for 3 months. For that, you get one 1080p channel that gives you the ability to rent a pay for view movie in 1080p that is available even if you do not upgrade.
Where do I sign up???
It's the old "Pay Extra for this feature" trick
by Dan Filice - 8/7/08 9:56 AM In reply to: What a deal!! by HTHMANSheesh, the TV ads were misleading. I get it now: The Dish Network 1080p programming costs an additional fee. Makes sense because Dish must be doing something special to transmit 1080p and this isn't free for them, otherwise everyone would be doing it. For now, I'll stick with "crummy" 1080i HD on my cable and use my PS3 to enjoy 1080p stuff when I want it.
1080p is cool and all, but it still won't touch Bluray
by jostenmeat - 8/7/08 11:19 AM In reply to: It's the old "Pay Extra for this feature" trick by Dan Filicesimply due to video bit rate. Satellite, I've read, maxes out around 12mbps. Ive even read of under 6mps for HD channels during a recent class action suit against DirectTV a couple of years ago.
Bluray gets up to about 50 mbps.
There are hopes for sat to look even better. They firstly can get off mpeg2 and go to either VC-1 or AVC.
Then 1080p/24 would actually take less bandwidth than 1080i/60 (30 full frames per second). Also, converting 1080p/24 to 1080i/60 and back to 1080p/24 is pretty silly. Why the two unnecessary conversions when the first, untouched, will takes less bandwidth to begin with?
Maybe one day they can even get enough bandwidth to have a worthy soundtrack to accompany the video.
You Misunderstand
by Flatworm - 8/9/08 7:43 AM In reply to: 1080p is cool and all, but it still won't touch Bluray by jostenmeatThe bitrate of transmission via satellite doesn't matter. This is VOD, which works differently on satellite than it does on cable. It will download the movie to your DVR and play it exclusively from the stored content on the DVR.
It might take a LONG time to download to your DVR (probably an all-night kind of thing), but the bitrate between the DVR and your TV through an HDMI connection should be perfectly adequate.
You will certainly need to plan ahead!
Reply to all
by gabereyes - 8/8/08 9:38 PM In reply to: 1080p programming now available by Dan Filice1080p is only by video on demand, or as dish calls on the comercial 1080p turbo HD VOD.
they have NO HD broadcast channels like HDNET, HDtheater, HBO, etc. in 1080p.
Why? because these channels do not broacast in anything over 1080i.
and if for some reason dish decided to upconvert 1080i to 1080p using a processor in the set top box, this will be no diffrent then your TV upscaling or deinterlacing the signal.
its all smoke and mirrors, all you hear is 1080p and turbo HD, but they do say VOD 3 times in the comercial's.
although I do have dish network and love all of the HD channels they have, I do not like this new advertising.
Gabe
DishNetwork is soooo dishonest....
by mbednarz - 8/8/08 10:14 PM In reply to: Reply to all by gabereyesI left Dish last Feb when they sent an installer out to upgrade me to HD TV service from my Std Def service I had with them for 6 years. The installer saw my Home Theater suite, the big-ass Samsung and my Self Built Media Ctr PC and probably figured he better fess up, and be honest. He says to me, "did anyone tell you when you ordered HD service about our HD quality and Satellite problems?" Uhm, NO. He went on to explain that the satellite that carries most of their HD programming and channels with the exception of local HD, is "out of position and falling out of well, like it's orbit" this has led to serious pixelation issues, bluescreens, and blankouts. They occur every few minutes or so and they are making constant calls and re-calls to fix the problem, but they can't because the equipment is fine; but the satellite is not. Cust service doesn't tell them this and after a few visits, they charge the customers for the calls. Upper management is aware, but keeps Cust Service representatives in the dark. Northern Latitudes are affected the most, and the West Coast particularly the Pac. NW, (Seattle area where I am) are faring the worst. Management decided to change the position of the Satellite to improve signal and service to the Northeast, their largest portion of subscribers, to minimize complaints amongst the majority. My area got short shrift. I KID YOU NOT this guy came out to do a 4 room upgrade and thank god he was honest and told me this. He said I need to wait at least 6 mos. to 9 mos. for them to launch a new Satellite to shift programming onto and he didn't want to lose me as a customer forever by installing a system that he knew would **** me off. I thanked him for that, I asked if he had heard of issues like this with DirecTV he said no, when their receivers and equip are working, they are better, but it's not now, so DirecTV would be safe. I thanked him, cancelled my order, and ordered DiectTV on the advice of the HONEST tech with the DishNetwork truck and logo on his shirt. BEWARE of this COMPANY most are not as honest as my guy was.
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