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Panasonic 50PZ800U Plasma question
by efy007 - 8/3/08 6:34 PMHello, I read CNET all the time but a first time forum user.
I just purchased a the panasonic 50pz800u plasma and had a question about the picture quality.
Is it normal to see pixel squares (motion blur perhaps) in an HD broadcast? Tonight I saw 'Charlies Angels' in HD 1080i via my HD cable box. The picture was great, details were great! But, during some scenes, a portion of the scene pixelates (if thats the right term??) It seems to happen mostly when the camera is moving fast and not an object moving fast. Meaning, someone can run around fast and the picture will be fine, but if the actual camera quickly moves left to right, for example, I get that blur.
I also watched 'Mission Impossible 3' on my DVD at 480i via component connections. While the picture isnt as good as the HD movie, it doesnt have that problem of bluring when the camera moves fast.
I thought motion blur primarily happened on LCD's and not as much on plasmas. And this model got such great reviews, I assumed I really wouldnt see it much. Might this be a problem with my television or am I being too picky? Do I need a plasma like a $5000 Pioneer to avoid this type of issue?
I would appreciate any and all feedback on my issue.
Thanks,
Ed
compression
by gabereyes - 8/3/08 8:46 PM In reply to: Panasonic 50PZ800U Plasma question by efy007it seems more and more cable and sat companys are trying to compress HD signals to fit more HD channels in thier line up.
and this is easier to see with a newer type TV LCD or Plasma, I even see it in my HD CRT tube set.
it seems the number of HD channels make them more money then the quality.
Gabe
It isn't the TV...
by stuntman_mike - 8/4/08 8:01 AM In reply to: Panasonic 50PZ800U Plasma question by efy007it's the cable feed.
Think of cable like you would an internet video. It is compressed, it is streamed. Those factors will effect on the picture and cause those types of artifacts that you saw. It is not motion blur.
You should rarely see this type of pixelation, though you will get it every now and again. Bandwith can take a hit for cable providers which lead to quality issues.
The reason you didn't see it in the DVD, even though it is a standard def source, is because it is a clean source. Cable isn't so lucky lol.
If you are seeing happen a lot, call your cable company. You could have a problem with your signal. Other than that, it is unfortunately par for the course to see pixelation creep up every now and then.
stuntman_mike, thanks
by efy007 - 8/4/08 5:02 PM In reply to: It isn't the TV... by stuntman_mikeThanks for the assistance. Ill begin begin my quest with Comcast (dont look forward to that)
Let me throw out another question. On HD broadcast (pre season Monday night football) I just saw.... again picture looks great.... but grass gets blurry when camera moving.... when camera doesnt move, I can see each grass blade clearly and focused. Tv? Cable? Thoughts?
Thanks!
Blursville.
by El Cid - 8/7/08 12:51 PM In reply to: Panasonic 50PZ800U Plasma question by efy007I compared the PZ800 with a Pioneer Kuro, side by side with a PS3 a first person shooter, GTA IV and Metal Gear Solid. These two are the top of the line plasmas and the best sets you can get that reduce motion blur. The Kuro had much better picture quality and has much stronger video processing. I found when you set it to smooth, you get noticeably smoother movement for fast camera panning. The difference between the PZ800 and the Kuro in terms of this blur is hard to detect.
The problem is that the Kuro available in 1080p mode is ridiculously expensive and the improvement in motion is difficult to spot. Based on blur factor alone, I wouldn't spend the extra $1000 for that. If you really want the better picture quality and a small almost unnoticeable improvement in blur, then I suggest you return the PZ800 and get a Pioneer Kuro.
I myself am really particular about motion blur so I feel your pain. I went with the PZ800U anyways because it still does an excellent job with motion blur and there are starving kids in Africa so I can't justify spending $3000+ on a Kuro. That's my two cents.
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