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Storage: Poll: What do you back up your data to?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 8/1/08 10:27 AM
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Poll: What do you back up your data to?

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 8/1/08 10:27 AM

What do you back up your data to?

CD-ROM (What's your method?)
DVD (What's your method?)
External hard drive (What's your method?)
Floppy disk (Are you for real?)
Online storage site (How's that working out--any concerns?)
Tape (What's your method?)
USB drive (What's your method?)
More than one of the above selections (Tell us more.)
Other (What is it?)

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Back up

by Phil Crase - 8/1/08 12:57 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Lee: It depends on WHAT it is for, have used pretty much all of the methods mentioned but generally use an external HDD {portable for L/T). Also have several flash drives and sometimes burn data to hard copy, DVD/CD. I have a stack of formatted floppies around here somewhere can't think of a good reason to keep them so they will likely disappear in the near future. Best regards.

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backup

by lobo65 - 8/1/08 6:53 PM In reply to: Back up by Phil Crase

I use a Seagate 500gb external drive, and put some content on CD's or DVD's as well.

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Back Ups

by reholmes - 8/1/08 6:52 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Other machines on the LAN. Use scheduled, selective B/U.

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Drobo and the cloud

by galanz - 8/1/08 6:54 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have my Drobo setup as a NAS off my Airport Extreme that I backup all my important stuff to plus I use Jungle Disk offsite for my really important stuff.

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All user data

by samkh - 8/1/08 7:22 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

resides on a networked file server that is scanned nightly for virus and then backed up 2 generations to mirrored disks. Also keep a weekly full data backup on mirrored hard disk stored remotely.

OS, programs and profiles never backed up since they can be re-installed.

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Automated file backup

by anderso - 8/1/08 8:00 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I'm a fairly active amateur potographer, and lover of old-style contemporary jazz, and wanted a means of storing both photos and music files off of my hard-drive and have immediate access to the data, plus a a fairly easy means of accomplishing backups. Following what I considered extensive research on the avilable means of storing backups I settled on the HP Media Vault MV-210. It is connected through my Verizon FIOS router, provides scheduled backups of My Documents, Photos, and Music files. The NV-2120 comes with one 500GB hard drive with the ability to double that capacity with the addition of a second 500GB hard drive. I've had the device for approximately six months, have approximately 250GB of data (both music and phptos) stored on it, and have become quite comfortable with its features. It just sits on the corner of my work area and automatically takes care of backups. Then it tells me when it is performing a backup and then goes back to sleep. Occasionally, just for peace of mind, I check the stored data by actually listening to music stored on the drive or viewing and edditing pictures that are out there. I hope that helps.

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Combination

by 4Denise - 8/1/08 8:25 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

For everyday backups I use an external hard drive. Every week or two, though, I select some of my older data and back it up to CD or DVD. I make two copies of each disk. Only then will I allow the data to be removed from my hard drive.

I do not consider an external drive to be a permanent solution. I also insist that I have at least 2 completely separate copies of the data before I consider it backed up. I like my system. It allows me to make a copy of my data quickly and easily. I just have enough sense to know that the quick copy is not entirely secure, so I have another method I use regularly.

Denise

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Data backup

by mitchnet12 - 8/1/08 8:31 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have learned some lessons over time and I've progressed so far. It's ironic that this post came up too because I just had an external hard drive go on me!

I had purchased a Maxtor OneTouch III 320GB external hard drive to backup to and it was good until about a month ago (14 months of occasional and not being plugged in). The enclosure first had a short then the PCB (printed circuit board) fried. By the way if anybody has a Seagate ST3320620A with firmware 3.AAD, help please!

Learn from me, as enticing a retail buy may be, build your own external hard drive. If you know how to install RAM and reformat a drive, you have the right skills to do it. Do your research on types of hard drives if you're not sure about terms and types of hard drives are on the market.

My best advise would be to find a pair of identical hard drives and an enclosure with RAID1 (array of hard discs) with mirror support. Depending on what you want in terms of capacity, it'll probably cost a couple hundred. In most cases, your choices may cost less than buying retail. Don't forget to look for an enclosure which can dissipate heat and maybe have a fan.

A RAID1 is my next action in saving my data. I hope this time it works to my advantage!

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multiple back ups

by arev11 - 8/1/08 8:42 PM In reply to: Data backup by mitchnet12

with my really important data I back up onto an external drive. I back up also onto my laptop and also to another family owned computor away from my home. every month or so i also back up to a dvd.
My photos of which there are millions i have backed up on two copies of dvds.ad have most of the recent ones on PC and external drive. a lot of my best photos are on pbase.com but i dont count that as a back up just as a sharing medium. I know that murphys law states anything that can go wrong will go wrong but as long as my databases are secure and my photos reasonably secure i am happy.

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Questions about different backup devices?

by Thomboy65 - 8/7/08 2:00 PM In reply to: multiple back ups by arev11

I read your reply to Lee.

What brand is your external hard drive, and why not two for different types of backups--music, photos, and important files.

My wife had her Money file on my laptop that fried, and while I did a backup of all files and folders, they became corrupt and I lost everything--photos, important files, and music--many that cannot be replaced.

Q1. What software do you use to back up your music to a DVD, and what kind of a DVD burner do you use?
Q2. What is pbase.com?

Many thanks for the reply.

Thomboy

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Backup Choices

by hugokc - 8/1/08 8:41 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have two external hard drives to which I regularly back up my files. On the smaller (100 GB WD)drive I store my Windows OneCare Backup information (Music, Financial, and other data files). On the larger drive (500 GB Seagate Free Agent) I backed up my entire C Drive.

This extra bit of caution came in handy this past week when I got the urge to upgrade my trusty XP Professional to Vista (what was I thinking?) After experiencing multiple problems with Vista, I simply formatted and wiped my C Drive, reinstalled Windows XP and restored my C Drive. had a C Drive crash. Since there's no easy way to "downgrade" from Vista back to XP, I simply formatted my C Drive, wiped it clean, and then reinstalled Windows XP. Then I restored my C Drive without a single problem.

Every computer owner should have at least two external hard drives on which you schedule regular (at least weekly) backups. This is fairly easy if you just back up you C drive and then schedule incremental backups for any changes.

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Backup Choices

by rsknapp - 8/2/08 8:09 AM In reply to: Backup Choices by hugokc

My backup system: VXA tabe backup; 2external hard drives; additional computer; network server; BluRay 50gb RW disks. One of the external hard drives is kept offsite.
This may seem to be a lot, but, if you've ever lost 85GB of ripped MP3/FLAC CDs, and had to rip them again, it adds a great measure of comfort.
I use a synchronization program to keep the music files current on all devices. I backup the music when there is a change.
Ordinary data files are backed up weekly; less often when I'm not home.

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Synchronization Program?

by Thomboy65 - 8/7/08 2:03 PM In reply to: Backup Choices by rsknapp

What synchronization program do you use?

I wish I could sit and watch you do a few of these backups!!

Thomboy

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DVD-RAM

by PBSandU - 8/1/08 8:56 PM In reply to: Poll: What do you back up your data to? by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Lee,I'm going to chime in my 2~cents worth-- I have used DVD-RAM for more than 14 years. (b4 it was a ram like disc..more to the point, was a PD disc and was not 4.7Gb) I used PowerQuest then dump the image to the ram disc.(if it was a full image of the "c" drive for example.) I now use Ghost..it is just like PQ.
PowerQuest was "THE" program that many computer companies used for the "quick restore" feature that they promoted. Symantec (formally Norton's) purchased PowerQuest and named it "Ghost". The Ram disc record just like a hard drive..they are not linear (spiral) recorders like DVD. They access the disc faster than any DVD. The disc is made differently than a DVD, there are no dye refection problem (i.e:-R). these discs are extremely stable in most environments. can be recorded more than a 1000 times! and have a shelf life of a 100 years! the medical industry has, and still uses them as a primary archival medium. they are stored "off site" meaning they are not in the computer at all times. i myself have NEVER had an issue with one at all. i have stored them in a basement, on a shelf for over 8 years..the disc work fine. just for S#%ts and giggles..i have even tested them in water for 6 months..not a problem.
A hardisk has to be exercised every so often or they will seize.(interpeter failure, motor bearing grease harding, etc.) Storing the drive is important too, the magnetic coating that is placed on the aluminum platters expands and contracts at a different rate than that of the platters, this has been taken into account during the design of the product. however, to many fluctuations in tempature and humidity can cause the magnetic layer to lift..and destroy the drive. The movie industry is grappling with this problem as we speak. they are now taking digital movie information ( from parts of the film that were like.. digital effects, sound, outakes cut-ins etc..) and either moving it from a HDD and putting it on film, like Kodak's Vision 2 or the new Vision 3 film.(can last over 100 years!) and storing it and using DVD-RAM as another media for long term storage. They have found that the hardisk has a life of non use of about 2~4 years. DVD about 15 years. before the data can't be read. the RAM disc does not have these kinds of problems. but has two others that i am aware of... 1, the disc only holds about 4.7 Gb of info, 2, will there be recorders around that will read the disc in a 100 years??? same holds true for USB devices such as hardrives and the like???? but right now the RAM-DISC is fine for me, it is robust and safe and darn near bullet proof.
Forget Blue-Ray, way too much info on a disc that is easly damaged. Sony's way of making it desposable B4 it is usable. (the information layer is only .01mm away from the surface of the disc in respect to the RAM-DISC about .5mm away from the surface..) Now that is a BIG difference!
That's my 2 cents worth.

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