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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Laptop recommendation for children

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 6/20/08 12:13 PM
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From Bob - Thanks for all the input

by ra208359 - 5/27/08 11:34 PM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

All,

Thanks to everyone that provided feedback to my question, whether it was in the form of laptop recommendations or parenting advice it was all appreciated.

To those that offered parenting advice I agree that in today's world finding the proper balance between technology and letting kids just be kids can present some unique challenges. To that end, I agree with the feedback that technology can not be a substitute for parenting. Although I consider myself an advocate for the use of technology to improve educational opportunities available to children, at the same time I recognize there are many other opportunities to do the same thing.

To the submitter that suggested we "take a hike instead", I would ask why not do both? In time since I submitted the question, our family has gone on 2 campouts, one that included a 10 mile bike ride with stops to a wildlife sanctuary and a historic site and the other hikes to tide pools to observe ocean life. There is a wealth of hiking information available via the internet which helped my sons plan these events in additional to using research from good old fashion books. (You can't easliy take a laptop rock hoping to a tide pool, but in our tests books thus far have held up well.)

To those concerned about exposing my sons to technology too early, I am fortunate in that of my sons attend a school where technology is incorporated into the educational curriculum. We are careful to monitor the "pace" to ensure that what they are doing at home is not getting ahead of what is being done at school. That said, my 11 yr old has been producing MS PP presentations for two yrs and I was in my thirties before I was doing the types of things he is already doing. Proof to me that as technology moves ahead there is a choice to embrace it and move ahead with it, or disregard it and accept that it will move ahead regardless. I see this as a very personal choice, and although there are days when a "simpler" life with less technology sounds appealing I have chosen to move forward with it to the extent possible.

Since my question was in regards to technology I did not elaborate on other aspects of ensuring a balance of activities for children, but doing so is an essential part of a parent's responsibilities. As some suggested not all children will be or should be forced to be interested in all things. Parenting is all about creating opportunities for children to experience for themselves the things that interest them, and then providing the nurturing to allow them to excel at the things that do. As a coach, scout leader, and instructor I have seen my share of children who really want to be part of something but are unable to due to lack of parental support, and likewise those that really don't want to be part of something yet are not given the option. Allowing children to experience as much as the world has to offer while keeping it all in balance has to be the hardest part of parenting. Again, thanks to all of those that provided feedback.

In regards to other feedback I received, we already have two desktops at home so adding the laptops is purely a mobility issue. For example we will be "away" from home of a majority of the summer. As to why not other technology, the bottom line for me is that a laptop is to me the perfect all-in-one device. You can watch movies, play games, stay in contact in friends, and it's harder for them to loose than a smart phone. (If that were not the case, I likely would not have submitted my question.) Even though I consider it the perfect all-in-one device, the reality is that kids are kids and even when they become adults things still get broken. (For example a member of our family, who I will choose not to mention, could write the book on "How to break a cell phone in 30 days or less".) It just so happens that my son's hand held video games have now out lasted several phones. Interesting enough to that point, they (my sons) understand that if a piece of technology they are using gets broken or damaged, they don't have the ability to just run to the store and get a new one. I think in general we would all treat technology a little more carefully if it were not so convenient to replace.

My reason for mentioning the gaming aspect in my original post was because that happens to be the area that I am least familiar with, especially when it comes to memory and video requirements for interactive gaming via the internet. Thanks to those that provided responses to help enlighten me.

I hope I have addressed some of the questions that I have received in response, although I realize that I have not addressed them all.

I have been fortunate to have witnessed tremendous advances in computing in my lifetime. (My first "computer" was a Commodore PET, that is if you don't count the Pong game we played on the TV.) Today I can do more on my smart phone, than what in school I had to spend hours programing into a mainframe to do. To that end allow me to add that I view technology as a fantastic tool that can open young minds to worlds that they may otherwise never have know. (With the proper parental controls in place to ensure the content is appropriate.) As the World continues to get "smaller" with the need for societies to reach beyond their known boundaries, I hope to provide my children with the opportunity to do so within a save, secure, and loving environment.

Thank you to all that responded to my post.

Bob (Chris and William's Dad)

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Laptop recomendation for your boys

by tschlicht - 7/28/08 12:10 PM In reply to: From Bob - Thanks for all the input by ra208359

Hello Bob,

Have you been able to find that perfect laptop for your boys yet? If not I would like to help you out.

The first and foremost question to ask yourself is what size you need. There are good reasons for all sizes available so it can be difficult to decide. 17" is great for gaming and the need for large amount of desktop for multiple programs running. 15.4" Also good for gaming and is much better for taking on those road trips. 12" is wonderful for trips, so light and easy to carry with you, but you really lose a lot on the side of gaming and desktop space. I would say for what you are looking for for your boys a 15.4" would fit perfectly.

Next you need to decide what it will be used for and how long you expect to keep using it. Internet, word processing, e-mail; not too power hungry, but once you start looking at gaming you need to decide how "real" of a gaming experience they will want. What I mean is that a high end gaming machine will give you the most realistic experience available, a low end will run the game but may give you a less real look and may be a little jumpy in graphics and game play. So this is where the video card play s real importance. Also, you what to make sure you get enough power in the specs that it won't be unusable in two years. It's a large investment, you want to make sure you get the most out of it. However, laptops are upgradable so you don't need to scrap it and start all over. Putting a new vid card or a little more memory may be all you need to keep it going.

If you'd like to talk in more detail, I am with a company called M-Tech Laptops, maybe we can provide you with what your boys need. Drop me and email at trevor@mtechlaptops.com and let me know how to contact you and when the best time would be and I'll give you a call and see if we can help.

M-Tech sells top quality laptops that out perform and definitely out last the "big" name brands. Being that you are looking for your boys I'm sure you need something a little more durable then a flimsy Dell or HP.

Have a great day,
Trevor

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My friendly advice

by Jantojr - 6/6/08 10:33 AM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am also a father and have more kids. I would not advise anyone to get a laptop for kids that young, unless you are not afraid that their eyes go bad at a young age. I am saying that because I myself as an experience IT person, who has been in the computer fields since 1984. Until I started to use a laptop just one year ago, I did not have to wear glasses. Now I do, imagine using laptop all day during one year affected my eyes. Do not be surprise if the same happen to your kids.

Good luck

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I get it

by milliea - 6/14/08 5:47 AM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am exactly in the same situation as you are, looking for a reasonable laptop for my child in a similar age group. She is on a soccer team, she swims, and she is an excellent student. She plays with her friends daily and has formed good social bonds. She has video games, but the only one she really plays is DDR, which if anyone middle aged has ever tried, is physically exhausting. She has also saved every dollar that she has ever received for birthdays and holidays and from her small allowance. She has decided that she wants to blow it all on a laptop. Although initially shocked, my husband and I have discussed her purchase extensively and have decided that we want to applaud her values in saving for something she really wants.

I opt to leave work as soon as I can each day, which generally necessiates working from home and so I often curl up on my sofa and do work while my kids read or watch TV or just this morning, play checkers. My husband also has a laptop and I think she is taken with the idea of the flexibility/mobility. I am confident that we can continue to enforce our limits of no more than one hour of electronics (TV,video games or that damn Webkinz) each day. And by having her sitting with us as my husband and I use our laptops, I believe that I can limit her access.

Despite havings a demanding career, I make time to read almost every parenting book there is. I spend almost every free moment with my children. I don't have any guilt over this purchase, nor do I have any clue on how to go about guiding her in this purchase as we're looking for something in the $500 to $700 range which pretty much precludes a mac, unless I go with a pre-owned version. Do I want to consider that as an option

I can reach out to my company's IT people, but they're better suited to advising on the latest tricked out models, and I need soemthing much simpler. The specs you laid out are exactly what I am looking for. Does anyone have any actual, practical advice and/or recommendations?

She does some gaming and she likes to down-load images for the books she likes to make and she likes to upload pictures of her friends.

The pontificating is fascinating but irrelevant to me.

I need real specifics that I can action. I don't want to spend my life searching the web, I have more important things to do, like take my kids for a hike today. Brands, models, features, I am clueless. Any help is most appreciated.

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computers for kids

by wntwrth - 6/20/08 8:25 PM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

in any job computers are needed why not get them started now so they will have a chance in this high tech world. learning to play is easy. spend what you can aford.

c.t.wentworth

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Don't get a mac.

by Avidlistener - 6/21/08 12:02 AM In reply to: computers for kids by wntwrth

I noticed someone claimed that a computer you bought now would last till college. FALSE. Don't even try to pass that off. In 4 years quad cores will likely be standard. 4gb will be mandatory. My gaming computer ( that's a desktop which diminishes slower than laptops ) used to be top of the line 2 years ago and now is lower end. With laptops after 3 years they are pretty much toast. For kids I would recommend ASUS EEE PCs. They are extremely cheap and run XP. Yes they can get viruses but a good way to solve that is installing ad-block plus ( no ads for life ). It is a plug-in for firefox. These mini-laptops cost only 400-500 dollars so if they break it it won't hurt the wallet as much as a 2100 dollar macbook. In terms of build quality if anything macs are less durable. This is coming from someone who has gone through 3 broken ipods ( gave up on apple after that ). Apple crams too much stuff into a small case which leads to crashing hard drives. ASUS EEE pcs have flash drives which is better than a hard drive because if the hard drive is spinning while they drop it it is dead. If you can be bothered, wait till black friday (the day after thanksgiving ) for some great deals on full size laptops >500 dollars. Don't try for the 200 dollar ones since that can get ugly, other laptops are typically 30-50% off retail.

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Smaller is better

by ewallacestudent1 - 6/27/08 5:56 AM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I gave my 12 year old son a 2004 Dell Inspiron 700M it seems to be doing all the things he likes to do(i.e. Runescape,ect.) If you buy used be careful and ask questions about how it was taken care of. You could find the perfect used laptop for your boys also; think small. E.W. Ann Arbor, MI

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Recommended Laptop

by vertical2010 - 7/24/08 1:02 PM In reply to: Laptop recommendation for children by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Your hunch is correct. You are being delusional. Laptops are incompatible with boys age 9-11 since no laptop can survive: being dropped (numerous times), drinks spilled on them (numerous times), being stepped or sat on (numerous times) and - most likely of all - hard objects impacting LCD screen (and cracking it). Even if one does survive the above, the odds of it being lost/stolen over the course of 2 years are approximately 99.9%. Wait until high school, unless their school absolutely requires it, and be prepared to shell out $$ for the best accidental damage/theft coverage (and read the terms carefully). In the mean time, spend the money on a nice desktop. And get them some good books to read when you travel (like that will go over big...)

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