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by saycheez - 6/22/08 1:12 AM
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First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon

by saycheez - 6/22/08 1:12 AM

I have decided to buy my *first* DSLR. I need to choose between Canon or Nikon and was wondering if I could get some advice from this forum.
What works and what doesnt work with Canon vs Nikon? What features I should look out for?
If you have any recommedations for any model, please share.

Post 2 of 29

either one

by kalel33 - 6/22/08 2:31 AM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

Both Canon and Nikon make great DSLRs and you need to go to the one that you feel most comfortable with in your hand. They pretty much leap frog each other on ability, but they're always very close. Unless you plan on doing studio shots or setting up shots ahead of time, I wouldn't worry about the live view. It's pretty much a hassle and not as good as shooting normally.

If you want image stabilization in the beginning then you'll have to look at the Nikon D60 or the Canon XSI. Like I said, either one would be a great camera.

When you asked for features to look for, they pretty much have the same features as any other DSLR. DSLRs don't have features like the point and shoots because they figure the photographer will control most of the things on the camera. So there won't be any facial recognition, video, and a ton of auto settings.

Post 3 of 29

You can't go wrong with either one

by jump1127 - 6/22/08 4:56 AM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

Nikon and Canon are among many choices. Not sure what model to go for. Please specify the budget.

In common, Canon DSLR cameras mostly suit for portrait type shooting while Nikon is extremely outstanding for landscape and macro type photography. Nevertheless, the pictures can be manipulated for the way you want. Photoshop can make the outcome of these DSLR camera alike any way. You can't go wrong with either Nikon or Canon.

Post 4 of 29

canon vs nikon

by saycheez - 6/22/08 10:47 AM In reply to: You can't go wrong with either one by jump1127

Thanks for the wisdom.

My budget would be around 500-600 and may be 700 if it really brings lot of difference for an extra 100.

With many models within Nikon and Canon I am still confused as to which model of Nikon (D40, D40x, D60, D80) stands against which model of Canon(XT, XTI, XSI).

Post 5 of 29

Comparisons in your price range.

by HTHMAN - 6/28/08 9:40 AM In reply to: canon vs nikon by saycheez

Take a look at this link.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos400d%2Cnikon_d60%2Coly_e510%2Csony_dslra200&show=all

There are 4 cameras in your price range to compare. Although it does not list it, Sony makes the sensor for Nikon, so those are the same. For all of these, there are higher and lower models with different features like live view or more megapixels that you can look at as your budget allows. Remember, you will probably have to add a memory card and case to your budget.

Post 6 of 29

Don't limit yourself

by HTHMAN - 6/22/08 10:50 AM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

Also look at the Olympus E510 and the Sony Alpha line. These have the advantage of anti-shake built into the camera rather than the lens. This can be less expensive in the long run as you add lenses.

Post 7 of 29

agree with HTHMAN

by kalel33 - 6/22/08 11:17 AM In reply to: Don't limit yourself by HTHMAN

except on long run advantage. The Nikon VR lens and Canon IS lens actually cost about the same or less than the same focal length lens for the other manufacturers. I don't think Sony or Olympus has a 55-250mm lens for less than $300 that performs as well as the IS version from Canon.

I agree on the fact that the Olympus E-510 and Sony A300 would give you IS from the beginning. If you don't plan to buy lens later on then those would be the better choice. The only other option you have, with that budget, is to buy the XTI body and then buy the 18-55mm IS lens. If you waited until later on in the summer, you could buy the Canon XS.

Post 8 of 29

Not much of a difference...

by forkboy - 6/23/08 4:41 PM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

Like the others have stated there really aren't any differences of note between the Nikon and Canon lines at any comparable price point. The best bit of advice I can offer (and I just went through the process of making my first dSLR purchase in December 2007) is to carefully consider the fact you are buying into a camera system and not just a camera. If you take this purchase to the next level you will want to acquire different lenses, at least one flash and other accessories.

That said, both Nikon and Canon offer great lenses and flash units. And both are comparably priced. But there is one caveat in regard to lenses and the purchase of the entry-level dSLRs of which you mention. Be aware that some models of entry level dSLRs do not include the older screw drive that allows the camera body to drive the focus mechanism of a given lens. Some of these entry level dSLRs only use an electronic connection in conjunction with a drive motor built into the lens. Be certain to ask or look for such information about the camera so that you won't make any mistakes in the purchase of lenses.

From the year of research I performed before making my final choice I can honestly say you cannot go wrong with either a Canon or Nikon, but I cannot speak of the others as I did not research them.

Post 9 of 29

My outlook

by oct2274 - 6/24/08 11:23 AM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

both companies are great, but there is actually one very important issue that would keep me from buying the nikon in the cheaper dslr line. The cheaper nikons don't have an internal focus motor on the body like the mid to upper range models. This limits what lenses you can use. I would highly recommend going with a canon if you are going to go with the lower end dslr's like the nikon d40x.

Post 10 of 29

link

by oct2274 - 6/24/08 11:26 AM In reply to: My outlook by oct2274

here is a link that explains what I said about the cheaper nikons not having the internal focus motor and only being able to auto focus with certain lenses because of that.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond40x/

Post 11 of 29

Sony Alpha 200

by timinkc - 6/27/08 6:34 PM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

I just bought the sony A200 last week, I looked at the canon and nikon competition, and for the price the sony was a way better value... some say you're buying a lens system when you buy a dslr, well that may be true, but realistically I'm not buying any more than 3 or 4 more lenses, and the Zeiss lenses for the sony, and just as good (In my opinion for an amateur). Sony doesn't have the name yet, but the camera is GREAT!

Post 12 of 29

would hope

by kalel33 - 6/27/08 7:11 PM In reply to: Sony Alpha 200 by timinkc

I would hope the Zeiss lens were as good as the Nikon and Canon lens...their more expensive. One Zeiss lens would cost double of what the A200 body cost, but most people that buy a low entry level camera are not looking at upgrading lens anytime soon.

Post 13 of 29

Either

by Travis Ernst - 6/27/08 6:43 PM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

Consider this when buying dSLR's. The Body (no lens) will be about HALF of your investment in a lot of the cases.

You will find you will buy most likely at least 3 lenses, 4 is better to cover the Macro to tele photo range. If you want to shoot pictures indoors without flash you will have to buy a large aperture lens (f1.2 or so) to receive enough light and not hold the shutter open longer and get "blurry" pictures.

THEN it's the tripod, proper rated head. If you will be mobile, a monopod may be a good idea, that may need a secondary head.

FLASH will likely be a good idea, but that can wait. See if you need it before you invest a couple hundred. Always have an extra battery for the camera, and an extra memory stick/card. If you are taking pictures at a wedding or family event you don't want to run out of memory.

In the end BOTH are great names.

Post 14 of 29

UN is going to get you for this!

by Kutusov - 6/27/08 7:24 PM In reply to: First DSLR - Canon vs Nikon by saycheez

You just started a war that is going to have more blood and guts spilled than WWI! :p

This is almost like asking which car is better, a Porsche or a Ferrari. Canon fans are going to say nikons are nice but not good enough comparing to canons. Nikon's fans are going to say the opposite.

Although I'm a Canon fan and still use one 350d (rebel xt in the US, i think) I can tell you that both are great. You can't go wrong with either one but you'll have to look into specific models for details. Think about what you need first and the money you can spend. Some SLRs, with the assorted lens and accessories you might need, can cost as much as a car, so...

Post 15 of 29

Think things have changed

by kalel33 - 6/27/08 7:38 PM In reply to: UN is going to get you for this! by Kutusov

If you go on any forum now there is not the snobbery for one side or the other when it comes to Nikon and Canon. Two or three years ago, you could say that Canon had the technological and lens variety advantage. Nikon is catching up and surpassing in some areas. Now, Canon and Nikon fans are saying if you like the other then good for you and have fun shooting photos.

I remember a couple of months ago someone asked the same question and Snapfish said that this should start a fight. It didn't and I think that's because Canon and Nikon shooters respect each other's equipment as "just as good or close enough that most wouldn't notice".

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