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Community Newsletter: Q&A: Are they phishing over the telephone now?!
- 4/25/08 4:05 PM
phishing by phone
by steve d butler - 5/3/08 8:34 AM In reply to: Are they phishing over the telephone now?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi
Yes I have had this experience twice now . They have named a specific card and started the "security questions " To Which I replied before they got into it Can you give me YOUR NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER, DATE OF BIRTH, MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME,POST CODE. To which surprise surprise they hung up ... The Bank the card was from have Never tried to get in touch SOooo I can only assume they were fraudsters
I now NEVER EVER give ANY details over the phone Or when purchasing anything from a shop My name is all they need (in case I have to return anything)
Steve Butler Bognor-Regis England
A modest proposal to thwart vishers.
by Lightning George - 5/3/08 11:55 AM In reply to: phishing by phone by steve d butlerYour local telco should be required to reveal the robocaller's/visher's telephone number to you on your request; if the call originates via VoIP, then the caller's IP address. If enough call recipients are armed with vishers' phone numbers, law enforcement might actually take some action.
I am one of the 16-or-so hold-out troglodytes in California who do not have caller-id on their wireline phones. Both my mobile and wireline numbers are in the do-not-call registry, but as has been written here earlier, that doesn't stop robocalls. I once answered what turned out to be a visher's call, pressed 1 to speak to a "Customer Service Professional", ask the CSP for her company's name and phone number, and was treated to an obscene answer.
The auto call-back feature, *69, failed because the robocall originated outside my area code. I asked my telco, AT&T, for the callers' number and was told that it would be revealed only in response to a written request from a law enforcement agency. I actually asked my local police department about filing a formal report. They (politely) handed me a kite and suggested that I fly it.
There oughta be a law! The local telco should be required to tell the recipients of unwanted robocalls the phone number of the caller. In fact, there oughta be a law requiring each telco relaying the robocall to validate the caller's phone number in real time. If the caller's number turns out to be spoofed or otherwise invalid, the telco would be required to drop the call.
If visher's can't get through, or if they do, risk being stomped, maybe they'll go away. A possible downside of such a development might be a resurgence of Nigerian Oil Letters. I'd accept that risk.
This is how to stop these calls
by cafehunk - 5/3/08 7:33 PM In reply to: Are they phishing over the telephone now?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am on the FTC do-not-call list and I have been getting precisely the same calls. This is how I am dealing with them - as they are clearly crooks of the highest order, I try my best to be as rude, offensive, difficult and obscene with them. I respond to the robo calls with the most useless drivel until I get a live operator. I waste as much personal time with them as I can stand and I end my calls with them with the most colorful obscenities that I can dream up. My objective, if they are employing a legit call center, is to get the call center to drop them as a client, or failing that, to upset the call center personnel as much as possible and induce them to quit.
But I am just one man. We all need to do this.
Here's the funny thing...
by RickBee - 6/26/08 7:47 AM In reply to: Are they phishing over the telephone now?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I too, get these two calls at the rate of 3-5 times per week each. I have not registered for the "Do not call" list. I manage unwanted phone calls via caller ID, which works very well for us.
The reason these two particular types of calls stick out is that they for the most point, the only that have the chutzpuh to leave voice mails. There may be other calls from similar companies that we're getting that we don't know about, but my v/m inbox gets messages from both the car warranty and "no problem with your credit card" 3-5 times a week. To me, it's like deleting spam.
Phishing
by beatem - 7/2/08 5:16 AM In reply to: Are they phishing over the telephone now?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hang up on them and NEVER give them any answer. Too bad if you do - they will use it to get at your money ...
Judie best option is unlisted phone number
by lilipat - 10/8/08 11:46 PM In reply to: Are they phishing over the telephone now?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi Judie,
I have read many of the posts here. The people who write that these phishing scam people dont care about "the do not call registry". My experience varifies that. And they change their phone numebers whenever they want. So the FCC cant really catch up with them. I even get calls that are annymous on my caller ID. I have annonymous call blocking. But these scammers somehow find a way around that. I have tried everything I know. The best way to resolve it is to get an unlisted phone number. Wishing you all the best, lilipat
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