MP3 players: Best, current MP3 player for audio books......
Rio Forge versus Cali?
by rand34 - 6/20/06 6:05 AM In reply to: about your zen nano and netlibrary by daniel5285I'd like to hear more about what differences you saw between the Forge and Cali.
Which Cali did you work with? I have read there is a firmware difference between Cali models with a black-stick and red-stick. I cannot find a definitive list of the differences.
I would like to get a player that will bookmark mp3's.
Zen nano a mystery
by Miss Bethany - 6/22/06 8:02 PM In reply to: about your zen nano and netlibrary by daniel5285I wish I could tell you. I've now downloaded two books successfully, so I know that part of it works. I still don't know now to fast forward or back, if, indeed, the little gadget can do either. When I loaded the second book I wanted to remove the first. Since I really don't know how I've gotten these two books onto the device other than luck, it doesn't surprise me to find that I don't know how to get the first one off. With respect to the thing itself, I've been using a 20G iPod for audiblebooks for two or three years, and the feel and the design of the iPod seem far superiod to the Zen nano. However, I only paid $80 for the nano; and it took me months to really get used to the iPod. I use it; it wouldn't do something I wanted it to or did something I didn't want it to and then I'm treaten to throw it out of the car on the freeway. Then I'd try again until I finally became fond of it. My library's "e talkies" will not go onto an iPod and I've listened to so may audible.com there are no more I want to order at about $10. So the answer to your question is that I don't know. I do know that the instructions online or what comes in the box and the tech support for the Zen nano are HORRIBLE, which I why I'm hoping that some good sole can tell me how to work the thing.
possible answer
by fishpoint - 6/22/06 10:18 PM In reply to: Zen nano a mystery by Miss BethanyDear Brian H Burke
I don't have a nano but I do have a creative zen player, and I might be able to help you. Hook the thing back up to the computer with the cord and treat it like any other drive, using the computer to highlight and delete the book you want to get rid of, same as you would a file on any other drive.
Deleting books from nano
by Miss Bethany - 6/25/06 10:48 AM In reply to: possible answer by fishpointThank you. What you suggest works. What also works is a fairly self-evident feature on the gadget itself. As with the << and >> - as soon as I questioned whether the device had the capacity to do what I thought it should be able to do, my limited ability to figure how it actually did it was profoundly compromised.
There is a story in Persig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance about an unassembled bike that was made in Japan during the 1950s when "Made in Japan" was a label assuring poor quality. The instructions began with the sentence: "Assembly of Japanese Bicycle Requires Great Peace of Mind." It is, of course, an unintended slam on the product," but it is also, Persig points out, an excellent directive to anyone who is coming fresh to a technical problem or project. [I should try to remember it.]
mp3 and audio guides
by landri - 9/12/06 1:44 PM In reply to: Zen Nano and Net Library by jkhopkins90403You are so right on target with that - I have spent weeks trying to figure out my Sansa 260 - and yes, my thumb is sore from fast forwarding 3 hours. I am returning it - tech support is awful, it's clear they don't get it - lots of people using mp3s for audio books. I will look into the creative zen and the rio carbon. Thanks for this forum!
playlist or albums?
by fishpoint - 6/19/06 9:49 PM In reply to: Net Library Question by gramx4Gram4 I hope this is going in under your post about CZ microphoto.
Do you find it works better to have your books under "Playlist"? I just loaded 4 books under "Albums," and they each seem to play fine. I did it though dragging and dropping through the CZ software using the "Browse" command. (followed the directions in the manual I printed out from the CD>) Four out of the five I tried to load went in.
Playlist or Albums
by gramx4 - 7/8/06 10:56 AM In reply to: playlist or albums? by fishpointI am new to this, so I haven't started sorting into playlists yet. {Am waiting for our 'teen granddaughter to show me....big grin] I usually download a book at a time and it shows up under "now playing" in CZ's program and I load it into the Zen from there. I then find it on the Zen under "All tracks". You are right, tho', it would make more sense to set it up under a 'playlist'.
are you downloading cd quality?
by fisaza - 7/10/06 5:21 PM In reply to: Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question by jkhopkins90403I had this problem with the iriver h10, and the answer was to download cd quality book, not radio quality. IF I did that it would play fine. You do have to start it playing once on windows media to "activate " the license.... after that windows media will back up the license for you.
Net Library has found a solution perhaps?
by jb_smith75 - 9/13/06 10:25 AM In reply to: Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question by jkhopkins90403It seems to be fairly consistent that single-file books between 6 - 30 hours have been re-coded so that my player (Cowon I5, same as G3) sees the length as 1/5 ''actual'' time: a 10 hour book would show 2 hours, etc. The progress meter correctly fills-in, on a proportional basis, as the book goes on, and the resume function works correctly exactly where I left off, whereas before it always started at the beginning of the file. If all I need to do is multiply time remaining by 5x to see how much is left, I'm one happy camper!
Zen Nano
by enspinc - 5/27/08 12:15 PM In reply to: Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question by jkhopkins90403I've used the Zen Nano for audio books and it's actually one of the best I've found (although now I'm using the Zen V Plus and I love it). Did you create a playlist first in Windows Media Player? I found that you can't just upload the audio book to your player; you have to create a playlist in order to be able to listen to it. If you drag the chapters over to the playlist "window" one at a time, you can make sure they are in the proper order; sometimes just dragging the book over mixes up the chapters and they play out of order.
Re:Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question
by Holly Klug - 5/28/08 9:09 PM In reply to: Zen Nano by enspincThe original question was about Netlibrary books.
I have never been able to access any chapters in Netlibrary books (except by going forwards, playing the book). I did not know there was a way to create a playlist of chapters from Netlibrary books. Netlibrary books are a single file of the whole book usually 10-20 hours long.
I use Real Audio Player to transfer Netlibrary books. I think there is a bug in Windows media player that prevents the transfer of long books. That said, it is easy to get the Nano into a bad state where it won't work right. In that case, I use the Creative software to format the player. Often you have to renew the Netlibrary book to get things to work again.
Netlibrary and Zen Nano
by enspinc - 5/28/08 9:56 PM In reply to: Re:Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question by Holly KlugI didn't realize the original question was about Netlibrary books. You're right; you can't create a playlist with chapters for Netlibrary books. But Zen Nano bookmarks so well that I never had a problem with them. I also agree that the Creative software works better to format the player than Windows Media Player.
Cutting long Netlibrary files into manageable chunks
by sbogucki2002 - 5/31/08 5:12 AM In reply to: Re:Zen Nano and NetLibrary Question by Holly KlugWhen I used NL's books, I cut them up using TotalRecorder Pro.
You start TR and set it up to cut it up into the size chunks you want. Then you play your NL book. TR copies it into another file group of your choosing in your predetermined chunks. Since it's doing it in real time, I'd start it before going to bed, and letting it run overnight. (and sometimes all the next day - I like long books)
It works great. And it strips DRM off so it's easier to sync to your player. And it saves the output files in the format you specify - so you can save disk/player memory space. Google it, and try it.
Depends on whether you have WMP 9 or 10...
by gillises - 4/23/06 9:40 AM In reply to: 1-2-3 Instructions for Netlibrary by sstofferStep-by-step instructions for both are on the Net Library FAQ site at: http://www.netlibrary.com/Help/Default.aspx?Page=FAQ
I don't use this particular device so I'm not sure if it uses a memory card, so I'll pass this tip on just in case: that transfering a license to a card reader was a problem with my device. I had to do the transfer to the card while it was in my device to be sure that the license was acknowledged by the device. Hope this helps!
Samsung YP-U2J not audiobook friendly
by ajs167 - 8/5/06 10:08 AM In reply to: Library audiobooks by gramx4Hi,
I bought a YP-U2J to listen to Netlibrary audiobooks. It's going back to Best Buy. Cue / review is designed for music, not for listening to speech. A short press of review moves you to the previous track or plays the current track from the beginning. So if you're listening to a netlibrary track you better stay away from that button. And the cue (fast forward) control has one speed : slow.
This is the second flash based player that I've purchased (and will soon be returning) to listen to recorded audio. I guess I'm slow, but I'm reaching the conclusion that flash players with button controls are not designed for complicated cue / review control. And that's exactly what you need to enjoy your audiobook.
The player is adequate in other respects : it's small (approx 4" x 3") and light. It has an internal battery that takes 2.5 hours to charge from your usb 2.0 port. I think it requires window media player 10 to load content.
Looks like my quest for an mp3 player to play Netlibrary content must go on.
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