Camcorders: Best Editing Program for Canon Vixia HV30?
Webcast? Go with the Flip?
by R. Proffitt
- 4/18/08 5:20 AM
In reply to: Besides Adobe Premier we have by R. Proffitt
Look at the Flip and if you need more, the Canon zr800.
Returning my Vixia HV30 to Frys - No download software
by welrdelr - 5/22/08 5:16 AM In reply to: canon Vixia HV30 by stingray469After 15 hours of not being able to download video from my first camcorder, a Canon Vixia HV30 I started searching the Internet and stumbled on to another disappointed purchaser
If I had been aware that there was no software furnished for video downloading I would not have purchased this camera.
Whose idea was this ? Canon furnishes software to download the stills but nothing for the camcorder. Thanks alot Canon now I have to drive 140 miles taking this Camera back to Frys in San Diego.
If something does not work I don't have the time to play with it.
Software
by goramsey - 1/12/09 2:07 PM In reply to: Returning my Vixia HV30 to Frys - No download software by welrdelrJesus, the software comes with your computer - Mac or Windows – doesn't matter. You should have done your homework before buying anything.
Getting video from the Canon HV30 to your Computer
by mjogt92 - 11/6/08 12:15 AM In reply to: canon Vixia HV30 by stingray469One of the biggest problems i have seen in these forums concerning the canon vixia HV30. is that it is not a bad camera in fact it is a fabulous camcorder. But if your not familiar with some of the editing software like soney vagas or CS3 pro or so on. and you buy this camcorder it could be a little like putting the cart before the horse. And Having said that. I think the problem may lay in making a consumer camcorder with features like the HV30. So you might find your self spending more cash on editing software like for example Soney Vagas platinum pro 9. Thank God I got in to video editing first before buying a camera. so I feel your pain. you have a nice camcorder and now you find out there is more stuff to get and learn. so have fun and take your time its all a learning curve. but can be very rewording.
Canon Vixia HV30...lots of money, no benefits!
by cw99 - 1/2/09 6:22 PM In reply to: canon Vixia HV30 by stingray469I can't believe there is no software to help me transfer my video to my computer. I bought this camera (the Canon Vixia HV30) specifically for my business, which is selling horses, and I took videos of the horses but can't get them off the blasted bleeping camera. What a waste of money and time. I've spent countless hours this week trying to figure it out. My advice: DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THE VIXIA HV30. If Canon doesn't know how to make good products, we don't need to support them.
OK...Maybe I was quick to criticize
by cw99 - 1/2/09 6:57 PM In reply to: Canon Vixia HV30...lots of money, no benefits! by cw99For those of you non-tech savvy people like me, I just figured out how to get the video onto my computer. Here's what I did:
First, I purchased a "6 ft. digital IEEE 1394 Cable" from RadioShack. One end fits the HDV/DV slot on my Canon Vixia HV30, the other fits in my HP Pavillion dv1000 notebook.
Next, I called Canon, and they walked me through my menu settings. Press the "FUNC" button on your camera (when it is NOT hooked to your computer). Then go to menu, then make sure to choose "DV Locked" (it's in there somewhere). He explained to me that because my computer didn't have an HDV editing program, I needed to lock that function).
Immediately, my computer recognized the camera. I then was able to use Windows Movie Maker to make a movie.
Good luck...I hope this helps.
thanks
by tah39 - 1/15/09 5:06 PM In reply to: OK...Maybe I was quick to criticize by cw99You just saved me a bunch of time. I've been struggling with the hv30 for the better part of an hour, with out your post it may have gone on forever.
thanks,
tah
Finally have raw video to edit!
by robtone247 - 8/16/09 5:24 PM In reply to: OK...Maybe I was quick to criticize by cw99Cheers cw! i followed your instructions and it worked! i can finally capture video from the hv30 using Magix Movie Edit Pro 11. it has taken me almost a year between finding the right firewire card, the right firewire plug and the right forum advice. phew!
HV30
by goramsey - 1/12/09 1:59 PM In reply to: canon Vixia HV30 by stingray469From what I gather, you have not done any reasearch at all. The Canon HV30 is simply fantastic. No camcorder provides you with software.HELLO!!!
I have no problem at all capturing to my computer using iMovie or Final Cut Express. Your only problem is windows.
Canon vixia hv30
by Lizzieruth - 1/15/09 7:41 PM In reply to: HV30 by goramseyAfter having read numerous comments about editing software for the vixia hv30 I am still confused. I have a Mac OS X, 10.4.11, Processor 1.8 GHz Power PC G5 with 512MG DDR SDRam. I have Imovie '08 which I don't find very intuitive to use. I am able to get it recognize the camera, but while capturing the video and audio, it does not run smoothly or in real time. Should I be using a faster operating system? I also have a PC (Viao VGN-FS680, XP, Intel Processor 1.86. RAM 1GB) that has DVGate Plus software. Unfortunately, it doesn't recognize the camera even with a firwire (ilink) attached. I finally was able to use Moviemaker after reading one of the blogs on this website where I locked the DV into place, but again, the footage is downloading much darker than is on the camera, but at least it is running in real time. I am new to the editing so doing alot of research. I am curious what version of Mac you are using where the footage on your HV30 seems to be downloading effectively. I too bought the camera because it was highly recommended, but did not consider what editing software would be used.
I am in a similar boat - so I feel what you are feeling.
by boya84 - 1/15/09 9:07 PM In reply to: Canon vixia hv30 by LizzieruthI am running a flat-panel iMac 17" G5 2 GHz PPC with OSX 10.4.11 with 2 gig RAM. The machine was new 4 years ago when HDV was first coming to consumer camcorders. I learned the stuff that follows the hard way.
I will try to take on each of your items in order.
You need to increase the RAM. 512 meg is OK for running the operating system and was probably the stock RAM that was included with the machine in the box, and maybe a few lightweight applications - and a browser. Editing video - especially high definition video - is very demanding on the CPU - and LOTS or RAM and available hard drive space is required. You need to increase the amount of physical RAM you have. It should be at a minimum of 2 gig. This will mean, most likely, replacing the 2-256 meg DIMMs with 2- 1 gig DIMMs. If this is the Mac I *think* it is, it maxes out a 2 gig RAM. A new, current, machine running an Intel CPU will be very helpful - but not a requirement if you have your expectations set appropriately.
iMovie 08 has received many complaints. It is less-featured than its predecessor. Version 6 is available for download for you to use:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/iMovie_HD_6
The reason iMovieHD can - but can't - recognize the HV30 - or any other miniDV tape based camcorder when you try to import HDV is because a codec is missing. iMovieHD will recognize and deal with DV (as you have found) with nothing additional. The codec you need to install is the "Apple Intermediate Codec" (AIC). Using the OSX system disc, do a "Custom Installation" of Quicktime Components. In there, checkmark the "Apple Intermediate Codec" and finish the installation.
Capturing DV is in real time. It is 1/4 the information of HDV. HDV will not be realtime unless you get a faster computer. My iMac, at 512 meg, captured HDV at about 1/8 realtime with regular bursts into 1/4 realtime. After upgrading the RAM to 2 gig, it regularly captures at about 1/2 realtime to occasional dips to 1/4 or even 1/8 realtime. Yes, it takes a while to import HDV, but I generally do not sit there and impatiently stare at it - I design the DVD artwork or the DVD menu background or mow the lawn or clean the pool... If I MUST have real-time import, then I need to use a new, fast computer with a Core 2 Duo Intel chip. One of the new iMacs would be fine. A MacPro tower is overkill, but will be REALLY fast.
Importing one hour of DV will use about 13-14 gig of computer hard drive space. Importing one hour of HDV will use about 44 gig of computer hard drive space. You should NEVER allow a hard drive to fill completely - it is STRONGLY suggested to ALWAYS have at least 20% of hard drive as available space. An external hard drive (minimum 250 gig for DV and minimum 500 gig for HDV) is STRONGLY suggested. This entire paragraph is for Windows and Macintosh computers.
When the camcorder is connected to the computer with the firewire cable - and the AIC is installed... when you launch iMovieHD and name the file and select the hard drive destination for the iMovie Project file, there is a drop-down menu that allows you to select DV and DV widescreen - and after installing the AIC, you will have the added selection of HDV.
On the Windows side, MovieMaker running under XP cannot deal with HDV. Only the MovieMaker version running under Vista (Business or Pro, I think) can. If you want to stay in the XP environment, there are a number of applications that can handle HDV, but the same cautions apply: Your Vaio does not have enough RAM, the processor is on the slow side, use an external drive for the video project storage, it will not be a real-time import process.
I've been trying to think of a useful analogy to what you are trying to do - essentially using older computing platforms to handle very high calculation intensive data processing with a brand new camcorder... The best I can come up with is that you are wanting to very quickly heat up microwave-able food - but you are using a conventional oven... At least in the case of these computers, there are some things you can do to get it to work, but without replacing the computers with new ones, things will take a little longer - even if you have the right tools.
Thanks - very helpful
by Lizzieruth - 1/16/09 7:21 AM In reply to: I am in a similar boat - so I feel what you are feeling. by boya84Your comments were very helpful. I have been thinking about buying a new Mac, but did not want to buy it so soon! I bought the G5 17" about 4 years ago and have had a couple of problems with it since then. SO, before I go forward I must think this one through more clearly. Many thanks for your response!
Four years old
by boya84 - 1/16/09 8:00 AM In reply to: Thanks - very helpful by Lizzieruthand jumping to HDV... I am saving my money for a new machine...
HV30
by FreeFallingProd - 2/2/09 7:26 PM In reply to: HV30 by goramseyAny insite on how to get my new HV30 to be recognized my newer Mac running OS 10.5.6 /iMovie'09.
I have a newer desktop Mac w/Intel duo 2 core w/ 2.4 GHz. I've purchased and installed a new 4 prong> Firewire cord & turned on "DV locked" in the menu (as suggested by another CNET user)
My Mac doesn't respond or recognize the camera....?
Any suggestions would be great!
Thanks,
Bruce SF,Ca
I don't know why you went to "DV locked"
by boya84 - 2/3/09 10:50 AM In reply to: HV30 by FreeFallingProdAs I understand it, if you do that, you will not get high definition video into your Mac. Only Standard Definition DV. Sort of defeats the purpose of having a camcorder recording HDV. If you have recorded to DV, then the computer will understand that... if you selected DV (or DV widescreen, as appropriate) if that format was selected in the "Name the file" window...
When you launch iMovie, one of two things can happen... Either, the last project you were working on opens or the window to name the project, select the iMovie video file destination and select the video type (HDV, DV, DV widescreen) opens. Once you fill in these items, the iMovie editing screen/windows are presented.
If the last project opens... We don't know what you selected for the "last project". If you selected HDV but are "DV locked" iMovie will not recognize the camcorder. Close this "current" project; a window asking what you want to do (open existing project, create new project) will be presented. If you want to stay with standard definition DV, then you need to select DV or DV widescreen (since HDV by definition is widescreen). And the Camomcorder needs to be in "Play/VCR/Edit" mode. Whatever it is when it is not in camcorder through the lens recording mode. It is the same mode you would use when you play-back video on the tape in the camcorder when you connect the camcorder directly to a TV (connected with AV, HDMI or component cables).
Personally, I would turn the "DV locked" back to normal (you may need to do this with the camcorder not connected to the computer - power down the camcorder, unplug the camcorder from the firewire cable, turn on the camcorder, make the change, power down the camcorder, plug in the firewire cable to the camcorder's DV port, power up the camcorder... into "Play/VCR/Edit" mode) and let the camcorder and computer communicate - and let you import the HDV format video. The lesson here is to never plugin/unplug the camcorder form the firewire port while the camcorder is on... Always turn it off, first, or you risk killing the camcorder's firewire port.
Of course, this all assumes the Apple Intermediate Codec is already installed. This is a custom install from the OSX system discs that cam with the Mac - it is a QuickTime component and the only thing that needs to be check-marked during the custom install process.
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