Buzz Out Loud Lounge: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law
NY "unlawful violent recording" Law
by heyheyjay - 5/15/08 5:06 AMI'm torn about this. Isn't beating someone already a crime, and being a part of it already a crime? To me it seems that banning and censoring videos in general is a bad idea and I think we've got some sort of protection from that if I'm not mistaken. I'm not in favor of these type of videos but where do you draw the line? What do you guys think?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/05/13/2008-05-13_beating_videos_on_youtube_make_me_sick_s.html
This Law seems redundant to me.
by tango_fox1 - 5/15/08 9:11 AM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjayAs a non-US BOLer it seems 2 me that there are already laws relating being an accessory. But if the person stumbles upon the violence and calls 911 then proceeds to record for evidence I think that should make more sense.
agreed..
by mementh - 5/16/08 4:30 PM In reply to: This Law seems redundant to me. by tango_fox1it feels like another way to get a person in jail.
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Each crime would carry a penalty of up to four years in prison for adults. Juveniles would face Family Court charges. [/quote]
I say make it a fine, and onlu jailtime after repeate offending (to deal with the bumfights)
recording for evidence should be ok 
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by Papa Chango - 5/17/08 8:40 PM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjay>'m torn about this. Isn't beating someone already a crime, and being a >part of it already a crime?
Agreed but police love to have as many laws as possible so at least one of them you broke can stick. Why do you think they like the marijuana laws so much? It gives something else to hold over someone.
Besides, I feel the same way if you kill someone, why is it worse if its racially motivated?
It seems to me taking someone's life is the ULTIMATE crime.
Of course, laws are flawed as are the people who push them and the reasons why they are passed. The 'law' is a very subjective thing. People seem to think its black or white.
Street Cred
by Renegade Knight - 5/19/08 11:38 AM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjayThe point is to take away the power of those video's to encourage more of the same behavior.
The video isn't a problem in that a bystander can capture it and use it to solve the crime. However staging a beating to film it is. Filming your homies doing the crime is a problem and so on.
Posting Suff films and their cousins doesn't serve a higher purpose. Perhaps in a self defence class.
BAD precedent...
by robstak - 5/19/08 9:49 PM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjayYou know what, they can press battery charges and use the video as evidence. there is NO need to criminalize the actual filming. This sets a dangerous precident limiting freedom of expression. It's already illegal to kick someone's ass. let's leave it there.
Don't be surprised if this becomes a FEDERAL deal
by Slikkster - 5/20/08 5:38 AM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjayThe very fact that the videos cross state lines, as it were, could make the videographers culpable under Federal Law.
The fact that the videos are made (in a staged way, not in a "covertly taping a crime" way) proves premeditation, and premeditation should carry stiff penalties.
I disagree with the other poster who said "cops love a lot of laws" so they can get something to stick. First of all, it's the District Attorney who would be concerned with charges sticking. Cops are doing a dangerous job. Sure, there are some jerks and power-hungry types, but broad-brushing police is a cheap shot. There are jerks in all walks of life.
Can this be use to protect police
by arshield - 5/20/08 6:43 AM In reply to: Don't be surprised if this becomes a FEDERAL deal by SlikksterWhat would prevent this law or the threat of this law from filming the police beating someone (ala Rodney King)? We already see how police and security guards are trying to use fake laws to prevent people from taking photographs of buildings and public places. So if there is a real law preventing the filming of violent acts then wouldn't police have the right (obligation?) of arresting someone that is filming police involved in violence. Chicago had a problem last year of off duty cops getting involved in bar fights. Several of them were filmed and it was only when the videos got out that the police decided to investigate and take the cops off active duty. I don't believe any of them have gone to court yet and if I remember correctly only one of the three incidents actually was prosecuted.
Conta
by medical-attorney - 7/21/09 9:06 PM In reply to: NY "unlawful violent recording" Law by heyheyjay
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