Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?
No problems here
by Buzz1962 - 5/14/08 9:39 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've had good luck with it. It's quick, stable, and hasn't given me any problems beyond driver support for old printers and accessories that now qualify as antiques. The graphic interface is not as "cool" as my college age daughter's Mac, but hey - it works for me and is a lot more enjoyable than XP.
Not quite silent, not quite loving
by AlexDeGruven - 5/15/08 6:37 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarNot sure about the majority, either.
I've been using Vista since Beta 2, so I've been familiar with all the little gotchas and annoyances for quite a while. I've been able to watch the development, and observe the user experience change for the better to where it's at now with SP1.
I should also note that I'm a power-user, and working through little things to make things function better is a normal part of my daily computer routine, so I don't see/notice a lot of the issues that many people observe.
Also, if you're upset with the amount of crapware that comes preinstalled on computers when you buy them, the best way to avoid it is to take a step up in the model. The reason the base model machines are able to be sold so cheaply is because the manufacturing cost is subsidized by the software offers. I'm not afraid to mention Dell's name, because I've just been through this experience.
If you buy an Inspiron laptop, you will get slammed with crapware. There's a reason the Inspiron models are so cheap.
I just bought my wife a pink XPS for mother's day, and I was pleasantly surprised with the very small amount of offers and trials that were installed. I was expecting to spend several hours removing and reworking crap to try and get things to a normal functional level, but I had everything up and running for her in a matter of about 30 minutes.
Ultimately, if you don't want any crapware at all, you can buy the business model (Latitude in the Dell space), and get an almost completely clean install out of the box.
So, to conclude:
Vista - Ok. Still needs some work, but well on its way.
Crapware - Bad. Stepping up a model will help.
No problems
by whereisit - 5/15/08 10:03 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarNot one problem for a year...i had a much harder time with XP.
Why is everyone complaining...?
by maxtro71 - 5/16/08 9:47 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarHi, I've been using Vista now for nearly 10 months and thankfully it has exceeded all of my expectations. Honestly, I was very reluctant to buy a new PC with Vista loaded and did consider asking for XP to be loaded on a new machine, in place of Vista. I'm very glad I didn't, because so far Windows Vista has been excellent. In fact I can only point to one minor area of disappointment. Apart from that, Vista is efficient, smooth and just nice to look at and work with. Sure it needs a more powerful machine, but if you ensure you've got the right hardware, Vista will be a pleasure. You know, it seems like there has been a lot of disappointment with Vista, but I remember the exact same thing happened on the release of Windows XP. Everyone kept saying the sky was going to fall in, and yet look what happened, people don't want to lose XP. In fact for lots of us, XP became a friend. In a few years time, the Vista story will be the same.
X-Mac user Using Vista and loving it!
by GenXer68 - 5/17/08 10:23 AM In reply to: Why is everyone complaining...? by maxtro71I think if you are upgrading form an older machine with XP it will be a pain in the ass (lack of drivers etc.) but if you buy a brand new machine with it pre-installed it's an awesome OS! I purchased a brand new HP Pavillion Entertainment laptop and it kicks my old Apple's ass! Visa works so well I have no need to go back to Mac and pay twice as much for a user friendly OSX that is so similar to Vista! Vista is the future people. Not only have XP die hards had to realize this but Mac users as well!
Read Business Week (May)
by panda2006 - 5/17/08 3:20 PM In reply to: X-Mac user Using Vista and loving it! by GenXer68Please read Business Week (May 2008) and realize why so many people are moving to Macs.
Please keep the level of the forum using proper language, i.e. not vulgar.
The strategy used by Apple for Mac OS and Canonical Ltd. for Ubuntu are really smart; have a new release or version every 6 months or a year. In contrast, Microsoft releases a new Operating System that should be almost bug free considering all the time invested in it.
Read what the experts say and do not only pay attention to the bells and whistles and Operating System has.
Have a great day!
Re: Mac OS
by GenXer68 - 5/18/08 6:42 AM In reply to: Read Business Week (May) by panda2006I understand the upside of owning a Mac. Thats all I I've used since 1999. I also know the downside. Lack of decent affordable software. Anything you purchase for Mac is $40.00 or higher. There is no bargain/budget software out there for it. Let's not forget about lack of compatibility. Also, here's the big one....anytime you ask support about anything regarding upgrade all they can say is UUuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, just buy a new computer. Yeah, what technical wizards! Apple comes out with a new OS about every six month making sure their customers keep on paying. You know they have the full versions avail but they always stretch it out to make us pay and pay and pay! Lets not forget, the average mac that would have the same hardware/memory specs as your average PC is twice the purchase price. So let me express to you, it's not about "whistles and bells" as you say in the OS. It's about having basically the same thing for half the price that is actually upgradable! Upgradable is not a word in Apples vocabulary! Besides, you can pretty much run a PC with most of Macs software now. I run both Safari and Itunes which is really all I care about on a Mac anyway. It's like owning an upgradeable software compatable mac!I now have the best of both worlds! Also, if you have not noticed, we are in a recession and most people don't want to spend double on a Mac for what I described above. By the way.......was that "clean" enough for you?
Vista-loving? I think not!
by Donkster - 5/16/08 10:47 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarFor Christmas I was givwen an Acer 5520 pre-loaded with Vista Home Premium. So I took a couple of days to learned about it while comparing to XP Professional. Vista lost terribly. I could list a bunch of knock-offs, as I see them. Microsoft whould produce an OS for us who know how to use a PC and don't need a bunch of non-producing products.
Silent Vista Loving Majority - NOT!
by marpincan - 5/17/08 9:00 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarTHERE SOLUTION to solving there deficiencies is simple - Make it your problem - ask you many stupid questions every time you try to do something! And as well, Vista is a bloated memory hog! They should have just did a major upgrade to XP.
Vista Is OK But Not Revoluntionary
by mdkansas87 - 5/17/08 3:32 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have been using Vista since December 2007 and the things I like best are the much quicker boot up and shut down times. I like the Sidebar but I realize I can do that in XP, too, with add-on software. Other than that, I don't see much difference except in how file explorer boxes are laid out. Overall, I don't see Vista a huge leap forward for Microsoft, but all of my peripherals work and it has been a stable OS so far. Now Outlook 2007, that is a different story, as the data file never closes properly and it crashes at least every other day.
Internet is slow
by photoqueenbee52 - 5/17/08 10:30 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarTHe only negative I've noticed with Vista is that my internet access is much slower than in the past. I am on an HPPavillion 6000 with AMD Anthlon 64 X2, TL56, 32 bit operating system and 2GB RAM.
Initial recognition of my wireless access generally takes at least five minutes and I often wait a few seconds for pages to update. I did upgrade my wireless network so that's not the problem. Any ideas what I can do to speed up the internet?
To speed up net connection
by GenXer68 - 5/18/08 6:24 AM In reply to: Internet is slow by photoqueenbee52A friend of mine introduced me to a really neat program called Error Smart. It is not virus software but it does a regular scan on your system and updates it to optimum efficiency each time. It is free of charge and you can download it at www.errorsmart.com
I also have the HP Pavilion Entertainment PC with the AMD Turion64x2 processor. Error Smart really helps speed it up. I also downloaded a copy of the Safari web browser from www.apple.com. It is twice as fast as IE. The downloads are pretty much instantaneous! I hope this helps.
Error Smart is not totally free
by photoqueenbee52 - 5/18/08 7:55 PM In reply to: To speed up net connection by GenXer68Thanks for your advice. I went to the ErrorSmart site, downloaded the application and ran it...all very smooth. However, the free version repaired only 12 of the 828 errors it found. Said I had to register for the full version. This experience reminded me that I had purchased a product called Uniblue for an older computer and it worked well. SO, I don't mind buying a product but want to do a little research. Do you have any further advice? Thanks again.
Error Smart
by mabradford - 5/18/08 8:24 PM In reply to: Error Smart is not totally free by photoqueenbee52I can't do that cleanup stuff for window$ anymore. I run everything behind a Squid box and Linux firewalls and antivirus and I keep my iptables filter updated for anything I don't like coming through.
To heck with cleaning that crap out of window$ when a man as rich as gates or ballmer in all their wisdom of screwing the last cent of money out of an individual - should be banished from this industry until they create an OS that prevents the dirt and crap from infiltrating the computer.
Ready to take the plunge
by ArtNYC - 5/18/08 8:49 PM In reply to: Error Smart by mabradfordThis is a very interesting and useful thread. I am ready to take the plunge and buy a new computer with Vista but I am not sure which version to get. I want it to run real fast because I use the computer for work - no intention of using it for games.
My main concern is whether it will accept/convert my Outlook 2003 Professional Edition files where all my work emails are. If not, is there a way of getting around it with Vista. Sanity over money, so I am willing to spend the necessary dough. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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