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Digital cameras: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI?
Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI?
by jbwoy4life - 5/14/08 8:49 AMI am looking to get into the digital SLR scene. I have a very basic point and shoot, but both myself and my wife have experience with 35mm SLR's. I have done some research and have narrowed my choices down to the D60 or the XSI. But from here I am stumped. The D60 is more affordable, but I am not convinced that it is the better camera. I am also open to other choices, maybe a Pentax. What should be some deciding factors to help me make a decision?
DSLR cameras
by snapshot2
- 5/14/08 3:24 PM
In reply to: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI? by jbwoy4life
Either camera is an excellent choice.
It is not a matter of one being better.
Go to a camera store and get your hands on both and buy the one that feels right in your hands.
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Nikon is better
by Edubarca - 5/19/08 3:52 PM In reply to: DSLR cameras by snapshot2
Yes, Nikon is definitively better. I have own several Nikons from an F to the latest D300. They have the quality of a Porsche, Rolls Royce etc. That is why you have to pay more, but you will be rewarded with a beautiful piece of photo equipment. Canon is more aimed towards average consumers, it is like a Toyota which is an excellent car but cannot be compared with a Porsche or Mercedes. Nikon is aimed towards people who demand a little more than the common Joe Average. However, as some other people say, go to the store and feel both cameras, You will immediately see the difference in the feeling of each camera, the quality of manufacture etc. So just pick up the one you feel nicer. But eventually I am sure you will pick a Nikon.
Based on this, I would say that if you want an expensive,
by Kiddpeat - 5/19/08 6:16 PM In reply to: Nikon is better by Edubarcaflashy camera that makes a statement about you, buy a Nikon. You will look great with one hanging around your neck.
However, if you simply want the best images from a camera, buy a Canon.
Nah, not really. Both Canon and Nikon can produce great images. I think Canon produces better ones, but you won't go wrong with either.
Take a look at the image quality ?
by jump1127 - 5/19/08 9:29 PM In reply to: Nikon is better by EdubarcaYou've not seen how good Canon 1Ds Mark III's image quality is! Nikon D3, top of the line is no competitive in every aspect. So, is it just a Toyota for average user ? I simply disagree !
If Nikon is that good, why Nikon can't manufacture its own sensor ? Correct me if I'm wrong , even the mighty D3 image sensor is still being manufactured by Sony though designed by Nikon. Imagine this for the next upcoming D3x or D4 and so on; Sony brand has the stamped on Nikon DSLR camera. Canon has long produced its own image sensor and processor. Even Sony can't step up to 14-bit technology with the new 24MP sensor.
ughh.
by kalel33 - 5/20/08 12:17 AM In reply to: Take a look at the image quality ? by jump1127How many poster are there going to be saying that this is the best, but have no explanation why except for some poor reasons that are not true.
In the consumer grade area, Nikon and Canon keep leapfrogging each other with better cameras. In the professional area, Canon is not touched with the MarkIII 1D.
Now if you want the Rolls Royce, as the person above thinks Nikon is, then buy this camera.
http://www.hasselbladusa.com/promotions/h3dii.aspx
It's only $25,000, gives you 22MP, and you'll have the best camera in any group of photographers.
Both cameras will do fine,
by jump1127 - 5/15/08 6:50 AM In reply to: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI? by jbwoy4lifein my personal opinion, Rebel XSi has something more that D60 doesn't have.
1. 14-bit depth color technology ( more color depth and details ).
2. more 2 Megapixels ( not the significant difference )
3. more choices of lense ( all Canon EF and EF-S ), comparing to D60 ( only Nikon AF-I and AF-S lenses are applicable to the camera ) regardless of other brand lenses, such as Tamron, Sigma, and Tokina which must have motor equipped for Nikon.
4. 0.5 inches larger LCD screen
5. 0.5 frame/second more continuous shooting
Try them both and see which one you prefer. Good luck.
Choices, choices, choices....
by forkboy - 5/16/08 7:01 PM In reply to: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI? by jbwoy4lifeI think I agree with the above poster who said they are both fine cameras and you will enjoy whichever you select. And while I own a Canon dSLR (40D), I was very certain that I was going to purchase the Nikon D80 until I met the 40D.
Regardless, I think it is important for you to look at the purchase process as being more than simply Rebel XSi versus Nikon D60. When you buy a dSLR you are buying into a system. A system of lenses, flashes, accessories, etc. that go with the camera body. Once you commit to either a Nikon or Canon system you can find yourself spending mind-numbing amounts of money on these other items. In the future you will find it very advantageous to stay with the same camera manufacturer if you decide to upgrade to a nicer camera body. If you stay with the same manufacturer you can (in most cases) use the lens, flashes, etc. that you purchased for the first camera, thus saving you a lot of money.
So don't just look at the D60 and XSi, but at what you may wish to do in the future. If you think (or already know) that you will want to acquire more lenses then you should be looking at the Canon and Nikon line of lenses to help guide you in the decision making process.
For what it's worth, there is a decent German site that reviews lenses at www.photozone.de. It may help you with the process.
Go With Nikon
by Dr. Planarian - 5/17/08 5:38 AM In reply to: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI? by jbwoy4lifeI like Nikons for one simple reason: Their lenses are better.
Nikon lenses are almost always smaller and more compact than other manufacturers', including Canon's. This is particularly true of telephoto zooms. This gives the camera better balance and makes them easier to carry about.
Nikon's optics are also better, but this difference is so marginal that only real pros can notice the difference.
The idea that Canon has more available lenses, mentioned by some other contributor to this thread, is really bizarre. It simply isn't true, nor would it be relevant if it were. Every possible lens anyone could want for any potential application is available for both cameras from their manufacturers, although more lenses from third party manufacturers are available for Nikons than for Canons.
There is one caveat, however. Nikons, both the cameras and the lenses (from the manufacturer, not third-party like Sigma or Tamron), tend to be more expensive. You pay for quality.
huh?
by kalel33 - 5/17/08 9:50 AM In reply to: Go With Nikon by Dr. PlanarianThat's a pretty strong statement to say the lens from the Nikon are better throughout. Do you have anything to back it up? I couldn't find one site that would substantiate the claim. I always read that their both great and cannot tell the difference. The one area that Nikon has over the Canon is the 18-200mm VR lens which Canon has not come out with a comparable focal range.
Also, the weight differences between the lens is not true, even in telephoto. For example, the Nikon 70-200 f2.8 lens is 1470g and the Canon 70-200 f2.8 lens is 1310 grams. The Nikon 70-300 weighs 745g vs the Canon 70-300 weighing only 630g. The Nikons are not lighter and are not more compact(could type the dimensions too, but am tired of typing whats wrong with all the statements).
They both make great lens, but Canon has more of a selection. Third party lens are not as reliable and do not auto-focus as quick as the manufacturers lens.
Please don't use bias to push people towards one side or the other and giving false information.
About the lenses,
by jump1127 - 5/18/08 11:40 PM In reply to: Go With Nikon by Dr. PlanarianI'm not saying that all Nikon camera has less lense choice. No offense to Nikon. Nikon D60, D50, D40, and D40X must use the lense that equipped with a motor. Therefore, number of lenses which can be used on these cameras are more limited, comparing to Canon Rebel XSi which can use any 40s EF and EF-S lenses without any limit to the camera's features.
Nikon has built a better contrast and excellent lense, comparing to Canon; I strongly agree with. However, you must select the right combination between lenses and each camera category. For instance, when using a different kind of lense, such as DX lenses on mighty Nikon D3-top of the line, you'll end up with the crop factor, not able to use FX ( full frame format ). Only G, D, and AF lenses can use every features on the mighty D3, except AF lense that doesn't allow 3D color matrix metering . Here, I've not even mentioned AF-I lenses since you already knew which camera is applicable to. So many this and that limits on Nikon lenses on each camera category. You be the judge ! Unlike Canon XSi, not every single Nikon lenses can use on each Nikon's camera category.
Not to offense Nikon's fan, but provide pure information to the new camera's user for a decision.
Something more ?
by jump1127 - 5/18/08 11:47 PM In reply to: About the lenses, by jump1127With a proper lense-mounting adapter, all canon can use any Nikon lenses due to the gap size between the end of lense to the reflex mirror. Nikon can't use Canon lense no matter what lense mounting-adapter. Therefore, Canon can use more kind of lenses comparing to Nikon. It's the pure fact !
D50 operates AF-lenses
by sxorpion - 7/1/08 3:19 AM In reply to: About the lenses, by jump1127The Nikon D50 has a build-in motor to operate AF (F-mount) lenses.
By the way:
I found Canon lenses generally are of better quality than Nikons. Nikon lenses tend to be of higher contrast in the center than Canons, but You trade off at the corners. ...which one to prefer > a matter of taste!
which camera to choose?
by buzzvader - 5/17/08 6:45 AM In reply to: Which is the better first dSLR, the Nikon D60 or Canon XSI? by jbwoy4lifePlease go to http://www.kenrockwell.com
You'll find all you need to know about which camera to choose.
I'm not even a photographer but I used this site to pick out a camera for my wife; there's a lot of help here.
Ken Rockwell...
by forkboy - 5/17/08 1:48 PM In reply to: which camera to choose? by buzzvaderYes, I too used his site to help guide me through the decision making process before I made my first dSLR purchase. He is geared more towards Nikon, but so much of his site is simply dedicated to helping you get more out of whatever gear you wind up buying.
But keep in mind, his website is filled with his opinions and while they are based upon his years of experience you may find that some things he does don't or won't work for you. It's always good to read as many different reviews and opinions that you can.
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