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Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?
Fun for me
by radione - 5/11/08 6:38 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI had never been impressed with XP's 64 bit version so when I built this computer just over a year ago and I decided to give Vista x64 a try and it has been fine. It took a little while to get used to the location of everything, speaking of which user folder not being buried in "Documents and Settings" is such a simple but sensible improvement from XP. It has been stable and just fine for gaming ever since Creative Labs finally fixed their 64 bit x-fi driver...
Anyhow a friend of mine went the XP SP3 route and it hosed his machine good, so he finally went Vista as well and is a happy convert now as well.
Despising Vista
by ragrillo - 5/11/08 7:21 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarSo far, I have not seen any benefit over XP. Yet, I've had to make a full Vista re-intall once already because the level of odd conflicts became unbearable. The straw that broke the camel back was when Vista simply didn't recognize DVD. Period. CDs worked fine, but no DVDs. No idea what caused it, no solution anywhere. I had to reinstall to solve it. Vista is a poor product.
Vista is just fine
by hgg47 - 5/11/08 7:51 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have been running Vista Ultimate on my home PC for about 9 months & have XP running on my work PC so I have a daily basis for comparison. I also recently acquired a MacBook for travel - essentially because it was the best value 13'' screen/compact notebook that I could find & I thought it would be fun to finally see what all that Mac hype was about.
Bottom line - I have found that Vista is noticeably more stable than XP, I have had no hardware installation problems (i.e. driver related) that could not be resolved by a visit to the manufacturer's website and I far prefer the look & feel of the Vista GUI. In other words - I really like it a lot - but its not quite love.
Typical Hold-Out Late to the Party
by medicman615 - 5/11/08 10:15 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarFor decades I have been very hesitant to change to the latest Microsoft OS, hoping to ride the functionality and value of the previous version until most of the big bugs were resolved and the cost dropped significantly. In recent years I've come out of the shadows to become a Microsoft beta tester for several programs, but have yet to graduate to the operating system level. Being a severely disabled retired Army veteran of 25 years and a member of the later-in-life graduate student crowd, I haven't had the luxury of owning a computer on which I could indulge increased risk of indiscriminate data loss.
This time around I stumbled across an incredible opportunity on Dell's outlet site to purchase a computer I could not pass up; the price and specs were just too right! I was a bit worried about the Vista Home Premium OS at first, but that quickly faded into amazement at the array of wonderful new features that have worked perfectly for me without fail. Many others here have said it best by describing the normal product lifecycle inherent to every new software development. Bugs are a natural part of the development process. One of the things I find most interesting and notable is the fact that so many of us stay with Microsoft products throughout each sequence, regardless of the point at which we test the waters.
Vista is the latest in a long line of the most popular operating systems in the world. Microsoft products have enriched our lives and in countless ways done a great deal towards bringing all of us into the modern technological era. I'm a BIG fan and loyal customer. Many "computer geeks" would argue that I'm naive or just plain stupid, but I don't mind. For my money, Microsoft products do what I need done the best.
While previewing my post I noticed a "rule" against submitting "advertisements". I hope my personal testimony does not constitute a breach of this policy. My preference and praise for Microsoft products comes honestly. I have not ever been employed by Microsoft and in no way intend to profit from my statemets, either directly or indirectly.
Luv it!
by hdtvluvr - 5/11/08 10:54 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI use both Vista & XP. In my office (i'm a reseller) we started using Vista (got it in October 2006). It's wonderful to work with images given the quality of performance. I operated it first with a 2G Celeron and 1GB of memory. When things started to slow down, I upgraded to 3G Dual Core and 1.5GB (it's the sweet spot 1.5 Gig) of RAM. I normally do not switch off my PC, so I do not have start-up problems. When I put it to sleep or hibernate(not really recommmended to be done regularily since it does give virtual memory problems)it does wake up properly. It crashed only once, when the first verison of ActiveSync 9for my pda) made it to crash. When I did the update of that software, it never crashed thereafter. The quality of images and sound it out of this world... I use XP at home, mainly becuase I have loads of programs and data, which I don't want to mess around with. I have XP in my notebook, because the overhead for Vista will kill it (but it work nice in there as well)... My advise.. Embrace technology.. it will railroad you anyway..
So say we all?
by PhoenixP3K - 5/12/08 7:24 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar*I haven't followed the 600 posts... but*
I am too, part of the Vista lovers, I don't have more complaints with it then when I had XP. I've been using Vista since the early Beta, and RC and grown to appreciate it a lot.
Calling it a majority might not be correct, but when I think about the average PC user that just needs to buy a computer Vista is just fine. The turn over will be slow, my guess is that software isn't playing as big a role as it used to. I mean everything is moving on the web, and wheter you're on a Mac, a Linux box or any version of Windows you're starting to be able to do the same things, so why bother and paying for an OS upgrade?
Vista experience: depends on edition
by ddd22 - 5/12/08 7:48 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have Vista Home Prem 32 on my laptop and have had no compatibility problems (save and old printer driver) and the install has been very stable (all updates, but no sp1). this is installed on a laptop.
I have Vista Ultimate 64 on my desktop (dual pent). This is truly a work to love, but oh so love-able after the efforts. After years of running XP and experiencing so many crashes and susceptibility to virus and ad malware, my experience with Vista has been nothing but bullet proof. It may not be as fast in the internet speed department (but quite fixable with a download manager) and surely it was a major pain getting it going... but I have to say, all of the intense work was worth it. This is not a job for someone who does not like the challenge of figuring out workarounds or someone who does not have a second computer to google the current problem, but again, when all is said and done.... I love this version and would never go back to XP. (though i have to admit I am not ready to set aside another few weeks to deal with whatever trauma the new Service pack might deliver). The hard work: no question... the lack of support for anything over a year old is very annoying. I have to find drivers for new printers that will work with my "old" ones and even had to dump my old xerox workcenter xd102 because it just wont work with the "not secure" printer communication system the printer required in 64. But i blame xerox for that. Vista 64 Ultimate also has every bell and whistle I need, may of which are not included in Home P...eg. file encryption of any kind etc. I enjoy this rock solid OS so much that if I was 10 years younger and could afford to spend another year of my life staring at a screen, I would install the 64bit ultimate on my dual processor laptop that is presently running Home Pr. One final caveat: be sure to keep one old XP machine around (I have 2, a laptop and desktop) because there is specialty software from small companies (like psychometric software and certain banking programs) that simply will not work on Vista, any flavor. If you need one of those and the company has not written a vista compat version, your out of luck unless you have that XP machine (my primary desktop is three system boot capable: XP pro, Vista Ult 64 and Ubuntu. Final Summary: Home premium is a piece of cake. Stepping up to a 64 bit version multplies all the problems as it is even less supported than vista in general. Ultimate 64 is major work not for the faint of heart but it is, in a word, the Ultimate.
just for fun
by ddd22 - 5/18/08 11:54 AM In reply to: Vista experience: depends on edition by ddd22after making my original post, I rebooted xp to install some VAG COM software that is def not 64bit functional and would not install in Ultimate 64. it didnt take long for me to see why i really disliked xp. error messages all over the place, hyper susceptibility to disruption of any kind, inability to stay connected to my mobile device... or even make a sucessful connection despite uninstalls and reloaded applets, and after i installed the program written for xp, the damn thing erred out loading. short of starting all over again with a fresh clean new install of xp, i will stay with vista. it seems to me that as your machine grows more complex, xp fails where vista prevails. Vista can handle anything you throw at it (as long as it is able to use it). Once it accepts it, it does a much better job of protecting the rest of your computer, your programs and most of all, your sanity! The amount of time i have spent repairing XP=3 to 4 days per month or more. the amount of time I have spent repairing Vista =0 days per month.... knock wood!!!!
My Beloved Vista-Monster
by kellywolflover - 5/12/08 8:22 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI simply ADORE my Vista! Yes, I have serious issues with my XP software not working on my Vista (although my computer SWEARS it has now found the fix, every time I try to run one of my old programs it still won't run!). My biggest problem to date, though, is Microsoft itself. Not only does my IE pick up every single passing bug, EVERY single time I agree to download an update, I end up having to completely scrub my hard drive and start over, so I no longer accept updates, and my darling runs just fine!
I can do things with my Vista that I never dreamed were possible with my XP, so I will probably never go back to XP, but I won't update my Vista, either!
Back door
by PhotoMan - 5/12/08 12:12 PM In reply to: My Beloved Vista-Monster by kellywolfloverSeems like you have a "back door" open somewhere. I assume that you've run AV and Spyware to find it but did not succeed. Don't forget that you can get the SP etc on a CD from Micro$oft (not sure exactly how to go about ordering it though). Did you do an update from XP or a clean install of Vista ?
+1
by VMaxF1 - 5/12/08 8:49 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've been using Vista for a year or so too, and have had no significant issues with it. Nobody I know who uses it has any concerns, and nobody I know with any concerns actually uses it. I guess that probably says something (something anecdotal... but something nonetheless) 
fishing for what you want to hear
by alvarezau - 5/12/08 1:21 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarYou basically start off by saying you are ignoring what people are saying. If you think it is just standard OS upgrade gripes, you haven't even read half the details people are going out of their way to try to tell you.
Sure there is the regular transition period, and all upgrades probably tried to incorporate better validations. Sure, there are a few other features added that save the user the effort of downloading for free and adding in themselves, provided they actually want them.
The source of many of the gripes I believe is the sheer arrogance to think that one company can decide that when you go into over half of the computer stores, the only options you have now is a system that doubles the resources used, silently monitors everything because they decided they were going to be the controlling channel for the coming Internet multimedia, and you have essentially mad spyware slowing everything down and new "hooks" so that things can be downgraded and possibly remotely disabled now if MS believes you are not in full complience with their new computer "vision". Also, just to use a new computer you just bought in most places now, you have to click that you agree that you will not try to work around these embedded limitations. Also, with the new polling options MS embeds, you cannot even guarantee you can use a computer you bought if it cannot periodically check with MS. Now, on top of that, to get a computer without all this extra spyware and junk, you have to pay a premium. Do manufacturers make money from all this embedded spyware, and is that why a computer with Vista actually costs less than the same pc without it? Is that market manipulation? And there's a fake uproar because google might combine adds with yahoo, when MS can force the average consumer's options to whatever they want, and create albiet invoicable disasters for IT professionals for no real consumer benefit? I guess it brings money into the system though.
So because some people use something they are not paying for, somehow that gives MS the right to say they will now decide who is in compliance or not, or they can put hooks in your computer which can shut it down or restrict functionality, because one of their business partners decides you owe them money or your video output is not sufficiently encrypted. Sure, they are not using these limitation hooks widespread, yet, but their incorporation into Vista bugs me still enough to take it is an insult I suppose.
OS takeover ?
by PhotoMan - 5/12/08 2:26 PM In reply to: fishing for what you want to hear by alvarezauSounds like the way any OS operates.
Sorta...
by jackbharat - 5/12/08 2:46 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarAs a techie for 23 or so years, people always come to me with their computer problems. I've also worked in various tech fields including PC support for the past 15 years. People used to bug me at least once a week with computer problems. Every time they've gotten Vista (the oldest install being 1 1/2 years) they've COMPLETELY STOPPED having computer problems. No errors, no malware, no how-to questions. 'All with using the OS as much or more than they did with XP. Can someone explain what's wrong with Vista? I sure can't find anything.
Vista? Heck, I can't get up the nerve go to to XP!
by Ozarkette - 5/12/08 6:45 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarYep, still on a Win98SE box. Been doing more and more on Macs, and heck, if I want OS X, I'd get it,not that OS X emulator, Vista.
Bloatware.
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