Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?
Love Vista
by Barcham - 5/9/08 3:49 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've been running Vista Ultimate since it became available on Technet in Nov 2006 and it has been just about problem free. And I'm not running anything near state of the art in PCs either...I run a P4 3.0 HT with 2 GB of RAM and a GeForce 7600GS video card with 256 MB with a 250 GB SATA primary hard drive. To make matters worse...I did an in place upgrade from Win XP Pro with a ton of existing programs and games installed which took about 6 hours to complete.
Other than the expected driver problems at the beginning, I have basically had zero problems with the new OS. Yes, I had to replace or upgrade a number of programs to the latest versions such as Kaspersky AV, Nero, and s few others as well as find driver workarounds for a couple of things like an old HP inkjet MFP, but nothing that the installation advisor in Vista didn't warn me about during the install.
In fact I had much fewer problems than when I upgraded from Win98 to XP Pro many years ago.
Now to be honest, yes some things do run a bit slower than they did on XP Pro in the beginning but now I really don't notice it at all.
The main reason I did an upgrade is that I am a computer technician and I wanted to see the results of the worst possible scenario I could imagine. The results left me very happy and I have had no hesitation in recommending Vista to any of my clients, business or home users. The only customers I haven't begun moving to Vista are those who have required software that has problems running on Vista and cannot be replaced at this point in time.
Other than that, all new systems we build and install are running Vista. I can really say we have had fewer complaints and problems than we did moving people up from 98 to XP. So you can count me among those who are very happy with the new OS.
One parting thought for all the XP lovers and Vista haters out there...take a copy of Windows XP SP3 and install it on an average 2001 system, P3 1GHz 128 MB RAM 32 MB video card and a 20 GB IDE hard drive, that existed when XP came on the market and then tell again me how slow Vista is on todays average systems.
No problems
by brandonh33 - 5/9/08 4:03 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI love Vista and have had no major problems with it so far. I just think that they (or you) should not put vista on computers with less than 1.5GB of ram min. Also, Vista does take a decent graphics card to run so be careful of that too. all modern processors are capable of running vista in my opinion though. I really think that people were just expecting way too much considering the difference between win 98 and xp.
My favorite feature by far would be the home networking(mainly wireless). Sure xp was just fine some of the time for networking and easily suited your needs. But if by chance (very good chance) it doesnt work after all the basic things to check over, welcome to the never ending world of xp networking troubleshooting that would take an I.T. crew of 20 a month to figure out. With vista, I am pretty sure my grandma could set it up and she doesnt even know how to get onto the internet.
Silent Vista-loving majority
by grandma golf golf - 5/9/08 5:27 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarWe purchased a new laptop that came with Vista and I really like the security features and the new Start button menus. So far, I haven't had any compatibility issues, but we don't use our computer for games. I'm having more difficulty with the Microsoft Office upgrades in figuring out where everything has gone, but figure it will work itself out eventually.
switch user
by prabirmallick - 5/9/08 5:41 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarwhen i switch user it does not properly work for other user.In the begining the problem was not there. I am having 'dell inspiron 530'
with vista home basic
prabir
Silent Vista-Lover
by mabradford - 5/9/08 6:18 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI love Vista - just can't afford everything about it. One machine is all I can afford - so I bought the professional version for $300.US and that's it for me. Lucky for me all my XP and W2K programs run on it so I don't have to "Re-buy" them. Have't had any bigger problems with Vista than I've had with Win31, Win95, Win98, WinME2000, Win2000, WinXP or for Servers the WinNT4 sucked but, I loved Windows 2000 Server and I love Windows Server 2003 and Windows 2008 Server (especially 2008) and Vista works great with them all. There have always been driver issues with every Windows version. When the industry gets up to speed - no one will want to change from Vista to the next big version...which will be Windows 7 - but, we'll see. I remember when SuSE of Germany (Linux) couldn't even get a mouse driver to work properly without some sort of problem and that was with their Flagship version starting with SuSE 7.3. Until 5 years later with SuSE 9.3 - the mouse problems finally went away for the most part. That's a lot of hungry years I couldn't afford Windows - but, used Linux because it was cheaper. So when people want to get get hiho about Linux - Linux sucks, too. I have many many late night years to prove it. I have tons of textfiles describing bugs in Linux over the past 12 years - so don't tell me how Vista sucks and Linux is the Holy Grail of OS's.
So in review - to compare problems, I've never had to bust a mouse up in anger for a lousy driver issue with using Microsoft softwares - just Linux and UNIX. Do you know what if feels like to have 3 hours of document creation to go down the tubes because Linux froze from the mouse screwing up? No - Vista is not the problem - it's just time and available products that have had the bugs worked out of them as to User awareness is all. I like everything Microsoft has - EXCEPT - it'd TOO damn expensive and that's the "bottomline". Microsoft got fame by being cheaper - but, about 10 years ago that went away and Microsoft became a Ballmer weilding bully willing to take food out of your children's mouths in order to feed its hungry (greedy) appetite at the stock market. Well, I just can't afford it anymore...and since Linux is very close to catching Microsoft in userability - the price is much cheaper still. (although I buy every Linux version just to contribute now) I am basically "coerced" into using Linux and abandoning Microsoft for most of my work and play. Sorry Microsoft - you're just too demanding in the wallet now. Your greed is what drove me to Slackware ver 3.1 Linux in the first place -now I'm addicted to Linux even though Linux is just now barely coming to the not sucking so badly part of its creation - it still sucks as much as Vista in reality. Sorry Linux - but, facts are facts. Vista is still champ on the Desktop.
VISTA HOME PREMIUM & VISTA ULTIMATE
by thomas d. - 5/9/08 6:48 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI just purchased 2 new Dell PC's within the last month. The first a Dell Vostro 200 for my wife and the second a Dell Inspiron 530 for me.The The Vista Premium is on the Vostro and the Vista Ultimate is on the Dell 530. I had the RAM maxed out to 4 gig on both machines. I believe to have a good Vista experience you must max out the RAM because Vista is such a memory hog. Vista seems to work much better with wired networked printers than XP did. My printers are a Dell 3100cn color laser and an HP Officejet 7410. Vista is great finding the drivers by itself, loading them, and your ready to go. All in all I have had NO problems with the Vista operating system.
Best Operating System Yet
by andrewr - 5/9/08 6:54 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've used Vista since beta, on my home built as well as a Toshiba laptop. No real problems except with the 64 bit version. I have the 64 bit version on a separate hard drive, and use hard drive slide out trays to change operating systems -(XP, Vista 32bit and Vista 64 bit). I would and have cautioned potential new users to make certain three things are adequate, i.e., more than a 500 watt power supply, at least 1 GB of RAM and a very good video card.
Each day, I discover new things in Vista that I love. Since I build and repair computers, many Vista features are an unbelievable help for me.
Loving Vista
by mabradford - 5/10/08 9:28 AM In reply to: Best Operating System Yet by andrewrDude I couldn't agree with you more. Just like Microsoft Server 2008 for Windows - Vista has so many new basic little things to help get the job done. I don't know - fresh things for disk utility and fresh graphical interfaces with new gadgets. Linux is nowhere near what Vista is in cool features and smooth operations. I agree with the other dude with 20 years of experience, too. You need a good strong Dual CPU machine with lots of power and a hardcore video card with lots of memory - I suggest over 2 Gigs - and a wide screen to see everything with. With the machine that Vista was programmed to run on - you can do whatever your skillset limits you to. I'm cranking Visual BASIC 2008 window interfaces out and I love my romance with the smooth nature of the mouse actions and transitions from screen to screen. I have no clue what all the FUDD/FOSS/LIES are about Vista. It's probably the best OS that the world has seen yet - in the history of mankind. For Sure!
Been great for me!
by shantheman - 5/9/08 7:02 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI had a few wifi problems initially, but other than that...I bought it with my Dell Laptop, Inspiron 1520...and I LOVE IT compared to XP.
In fact, I would venture to say I had MANY more problems with XP over the years than this one.
Too bad public perception is incorrect. Once perception is wrong, it is hard to turn it around. Too bad for Vista. It deserves a chance.
Vista is Cool
by robertanswerman - 5/9/08 8:37 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarVista is cool. Is that an uncool statement to make? Surely so it seems. But just as Apple is cool, so is Vista. They both run on similar hardware now it seems. Is Apple cooler? Maybe. Just as a Ferrari is cooler than a Vette? I cannot say. But I can afford my multitude of Vista machines where I could maybe own one semi-adequate Apple. Well, there is something to be said. But these PC machines have all had to be sent back as the out-of-the-box machines were all (100%) defective. OOPS!
What silent majority?
by Tarquin X Zanzibar - 5/9/08 8:50 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarNobody can be in the silent majority of Vista lovers, as there isn't one; Vista lovers are in the minority for the simple reason that Vista is not very good. The silence is the silence of a minority.
Vista runs pretty good on old box ...
by Rubenarod - 5/9/08 8:53 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarYep, I had to do it! Go out and buy an upgrade Vista Home Premium disk and load it up on my trusty 3+ year old Dell 2.4GHz P4 (now a trusty 4+ years old!). This was in June of 07. At least I was smart enough to install 2 gigs of RAM and a 256MB video card prior to the upgrade...
There was a huge upgrade issue, namely, the disk I bought would only do an upgrade, not a "clean" install like I wanted to. So I had to use my old Xp install disk to do a clean install of it, then upgrade to Vista. Before performing the final upgrade I made sure to use Windows update to ensure I had the latest drivers for all my hardware, figuring that would help. It apparantly did...after upgrading to Vista, ALL the hardware worked, a pleasant surprise.
I then re-installed my apps (recent versions of Office, Quicken, Skype, and a couple of others), reloaded data files, and everything has worked pretty well since. I did have to go out and buy a Vista comapatable DVD file back-up program.
Minor issues: The NVidia Vista drivers are nasty, causing occasional glitches (not blue screens or hangs, but ugly tray messages about the driver having stopped working but restarting successfully!) Maybe someday they'll clean that up.
Also, video runs a little ugly inside ITunes. Choppy. However, video runs acceptably smooth using other apps (watching a DVD in Media Center, on the Internet, in Quicktime, etc.).
With the exception of the conglomerated Control Panel (I finally gave up and went back to classic view), I truly like the interface. I appreciate, and have taken the time to learn the various ways that you can search for and find stuff on the machine. Of course, Google Desktop running on Xp is almost as handy...
At the ripe old age of 1+, it seems to me Vista is at least as good as Xp. I have had zero stability issues, all my programs work (a couple of old games I run in Xp compatability mode), and like it or not - its the future. True, I've had to put a little extra effort into tweaking things so they would work right, but they do! The performance hit you take using the Aero interface to me is acceptable and will probably not be noticable at all on my next new machine (sometime in late 2009, I'm saving up for it now). Looking forward to it.
RE:
by skmshaffer - 5/9/08 9:22 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've had no Vista related problems with my computer it is half a year old now and it runs perfectly
Do I love Vista?
by glendah4677 - 5/9/08 10:07 PM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarRemember when XP came out? Didn't "everyone" hate it?Didn't "everyone" have nothing but trouble with it? I loved it right from the start. What an improvement over Windows98, which, if I remember right, there was a whole lot of complaining about, too.
When Vista first came out I had to buy a new laptop for my photography when away from home. Could have gotten XP cheaper, but decided to go with Vista. I was instantly in love with the clean, professional look, smooth operation, and easy navigating. I couldn't find anything I didn't love about it and it still hasn't let me down.
Last week I replaced the two desktops in my office. Of course they both have Vista. I'm having the same great experience as with my laptop.
Within the next two weeks I will replace my home desktop with a great new one, Vista included. I have every reason to believe I will love it, too.
GlenH
i jest got a vista lap top its replacesing my old desktop
by fauxminer - 5/10/08 1:42 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustari jest got a new vista laptop it is replaceing my old desktop made in 2003 my old desktop had 512 ram and 1.8 ghz prosseser and 100 gb hard drive and it ran ok for most of the time i put some software on it to make it "look like vista" but they slowed it down they did look cool but now that i see the real thing its much better than thous old nock offs i down loaded and now its not slow its on are wifi which is broad casted from are router at 54kbps and its running faster than my descktop did before or after the vistlookalikesoftware and my desktop is pluged right in to the rounter by cord and that is sent at 100kbps (or are they mbps idk something like that ) ya so my desktop had 512 this my laptop has 2gb of ram my desk top had 1.8 ghz proocer and my laptop idk all i know is its dual core (maning it has two of them) and my desk top had a 100 gb hard drive and my lap top has 160 gb hard drive
what im saying is that yes in general a desent desk top may be better than a desk top but a good (for its time) desktop is nothing in comparison to a new (2008 or 2007) laptop even thou vista is a so called slower operating system i dont see any problems yet (as i said i jest got it) all i do know is its bigger and faster than my old desktop
and this prove that one guys law when he said the transeter on a computer chip per sqare inch duble every 2 years
what this traslates to is computer (in the same price range) every two years get twice as good that means ether fast,smaller,stornger,powerfuller,or a mix of them all every two year
so if u have an old xp and u dont want to upgrade to vista because u r wored that it will slow down your comp u r right if u put vista on an xp it will stink it will go so slow u wish u were never bown but if u buy a new computer to up grade your old one it will run much faster a new comp with vista will kick your old ones bottem (idk if i can say other words than theses if u r wondering y i sound like im useing rated G language as much as i can) with xp take my word for that
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