Vista assumes you don't know what to do with your files or defrag or that when you start/install/etc a program or an action you have to keep telling it what to do. I use XP on my desktop and previous laptops. I now own an IBM Y510 laptop with Vista. After organizing my documents on drive D: the way I like them, Vista is performing quite well. I miss the Undo, Delete option in XP windows explore but both are available by right clicking. Just means 2 clicks instead of one. Its coming so might as well get used to it.
Frankly speaking, I do not see ANY interest to spend more money just to pay completely useless operating system overheads.
However, I understand Microsoft MUST keep its sales growing ... and WXP upgrades are not enough money generators for their appetite.
So, when forced to "no more choice", I'll migrate to Unbutu (f.i.).
Pierre
Actually I have my desktop PC running XP and my Inspiron Notebook running VISTA. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM USING BOTH OS. Of course, I would like to use my FAX in my VISTA Home, I would like to manage my disk whenever I want. I found some software no compatible BUT we can't blame Microsoft, anyway, is not a big deal for me.
I don't understand why some people try to look "smarter" than the others just for blame vista and using linux.
I purchased a new computer with vista installed in Feb 2007. I found that it took me all day to read my email because Vista was so slow loading it. That was enough to get me to dump Vista and install Win Xp. As Vista is no longer on my computer, I no longer have a problem with it. ![]()
Bought two HP laptops with Vista pre-installed at Christmas, one for me & one for my wife. And I support two additional HP laptops with Vista for our church. All are Vista Home Premium. We have both wired and wireless networks at home & at church. Also a Sharp projector at church. We use them for email, web browsing, audio/photo/video editing and production, burnng CDs and DVDs, website maintenance and development, documents and spreadsheets and slideshows, oh my. No shirt, no shoes, no problems.
I been using vista for a while in three different machines, and it works just fine. All machines are relative new and fast. Vista is not a bad product, and in my opinion easy to adapt once you have new hardware. I have an Epson Printer and Scanner and for both were drivers available.
I am staying with XP Pro. I found it strange, when MS was "crowing" about the new file system and improved searching capabilities of the soon to be released Vista and just before release dropped the feature, leaving DirectX 10 and enhanced graphics, as major selling points. You see the DRM use, media control, in Vista, and add the release of the Zune media player with WiFi, and it seems this OS was compensation to the copyright media content owners, Hollywood Studios and record labels, so they wouldn't throw (legal) fits over the Zune player and ruin Microsoft's entry into the iPod market. MS needed to market the Zune and had to release,(as promised?), the DRM Vista incomplete for the copyright media owners.
Though I still run XP I get a lot of friends calling me over to sort out problems with their Vista systems. Most often I come up against a brick wall when trying to work out why a particular piece of software or hardware won't work. If it was only the odd hardware/software that turned up as an issue I could cope with that but when it passes the 50% mark and heads toward the 90% mark I have to assume the OS is not worth owning. There are so many features of XP and earlier OS's missing or hard to find that I wonder at the incompetence of those who put Vista together. Goodbye Microsoft HELLO Linux!
I have had many friends asking me to help them revert to XP after they and myself trying to resolve the various Vista issues. The biggest one being the Outlook 2000 issues that occur when trying to install Office 2000 on Vista. Absolutely unbelievable that MicroSoft does not fix these!
Many of the cheaper LapTops coming with Vista today does not even have drivers available for XP! A good example is GQ (Great Quality) NX-L515 from Fry's. By backtracking the various chip manufacturs drivers you will be able to build a fully working XP platform, but it takes some researh to pull this off. So check if an XP environment is available before you buy a Vista pre-loaded machine.
I think XP will be the last OS I use from MicroSoft. When the system is bogged down simply by a fancy user interface I have had it!
KW
laptop. About fifteen minutes later I was troubleshooting what turned out to be the first in a long series of "minor" problems: the machine took twice as long to boot; what had been a rock-solid machine suddenly liked to freeze and/or reboot without warning; programs that had never been a problem were now behaving in erratic ways (throwing errors when trying to format documents, refusing to save as PDF, etc).
Bottom Line: After living with this OS for 11 months the boss has given me a choice: either Vista goes, or I do. I'll be putting XP back on his machine this weekend, and will resist all efforts by anyone to have Vista put on another one of our machines; for certain there will be no machines purchased that have Vista preloaded. We'll be sticking with XP until the boys in Redmond come up with a superior OS - Vista surely isn't it! (I'm glad some of you have had no problems with this OS. It's too bad I can't share in your success stories, but Vista has been a nightmare for us.)
I bought Vista Ultimate thinking it would be the ultimate. Nope. XP was better. It was slow, crashed, refused to run software it said it would. I have since updated to SP1, and switched from Microsoft's Windows Protection to AVG. AVG is light-years better than Microsoft's malware protection, and helped. It seems that SP1 is much more solid, but feeling burned by Microsoft once again, I promise to report again later if Vista works half as well on this intel Duo extreme as their DOS did on my 8086 in 1982.
As earlier reported, (Waiting for Vista to show its mettle) Vista Ultimate isn't. SP1 helped. It is installed on a very well equipped Dell with 4GB memory. Often it WILL NOT shut down. I wind up restarting in safe mode. I've tried many things, and EXCEPT FOR SWITCHING FROM MS'S STRANGE PROTECTION SOFTWARE TO AVG, AND UPDATING TO SP1, I've seen only a small effect. There was an improvement, but not something I'd expect from an expensive, and, hopefully by now, a mature Microsoft OS.
I began in 1983 with an 8086 and MSDOS. No GUI, of course, but 286 had Ventura Publisher GUI and that worked exceptionally well. That is to say, it was clear, fast, and did NOT crash. I've used MS Windows 3 through Vista Ultimate.
Last week I bought an iMac with intel duo extreme, 4GB memory, and Parallels software, which permits me to use Vista Ultimate alongside Mac's Leopard 10.5. I'm sure MS Windows is hamstrung by the weight of code needed to keep alive what they euphemistically call "legacy" software. Read older Windows third party software. BUT - and I was a sold MS user and thought the Apple folks were a tad self-righteous and pompous - I'm blown away by Apple iMac and Leopard.
The iMac seems to run Windows Vista Ultimate at the same speed as does my MS Vista tweeked Dell, and with the same problems as does my hepped-up Dell. I still have the same problems with Vista on the iMac, but I have - this is not a joke - I have NO problems with Leopard. I have the latest Word program for Vista, and the latest Word program for Mac. I have the latest Adobe suite of Photoshop, Illustrator, an InDesign, and Quark Express for both systems. I have the latest photo handling programs for both. I thought that might be a good test.
iMac blows away MS in every way. I actually hate saying this; I'm still irked at the snotty Mac touters of times gone by. The Apple Leopard OS is as solid as undisturbed granite, and fast. So is the Mac version of MS Word, Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Aperture. SOLID. And I really considered myself a dedicated PC man. But Leopard is capital S Solid and faster.
Sad. What in the name of creation happened to Windows technicians and code writers? Legacy trouble? Maybe. But Vista required me to buy a new 1.) Scanner, 2.) Color printer, 3,) monotone laser, 4.) six third party programs AND a new version of MS Word. What worked much better on XPSP2 wasn't good enough for Vista, even MS's own software.
Parallels Desktop (an independent software program running on Leopard so Vista can be used, but preventing Vista from crashing Leopard) runs Vista just as fast, and as limply and clunky as does my dedicated new Dell.
When I have converted my Windows programs (like Corel Drawing and Photo, and WordPerfect) to Mac programs, Vista will be retired, and for me, Microsoft will retire with it for good.
I wish I had better news, but here is the straight skinny from my tests.
Philip A. Shelton
Santa Barbara
See prior. Worked all day on Vista Ultimate. Better, but not what I would have hoped at this late date and the money I've spent on MS R&D.
Regarding Apple's iMac and OS 10.5 Leopard. This seemed important to me today as I tried without success (again and again), to talk to MS tech support (an oxymoron) Apple has wonderful tech support. They actually answer the telephone! And, must I remind myself of this, NOT in India. 10 minutes to my Mac fix by phone. Ten weeks Vista not fixed, nor even answered by MS (tech support?)
I'm a really sad, inveterate MS OS and software user.
Philip Shelton
Santa Barbara
... but have used it enough to know that I don't want it. I've seen to many examples of brand new computers with hardware way faster than my computer has being completely crippled by Vista... startup times in excess of 5 minutes, slow responsiveness just browsing through folders in explorer, driver errors, program errors, etc... And the worked over interface just doesn't do it for me. Did they really have to move everything around?
I'll stick to XP. Even that I'm not particularly enamored with. Hence the Macbook on the horizon in my future.
on my laptop which came with Vista Home Premium installed.
My $35 Vista Home Premium with SP1 is OK on one of two HDDs in my desktop but I still use XP SP3 on the other HDD all of the time.
I just don't see the point in using Vista on my desktop computer.
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