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Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?

by chustar - 4/30/08 5:37 PM
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Better than I thought it would be

by tjmackster - 5/8/08 9:47 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I upgraded from XP to Vista Ultimate in January, and I actually like it! No major problems.

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I like it

by douglas685 - 5/8/08 9:48 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I have 64 bit business, and so far, its been great. I love the window transitions and the way the user interface looks. However, I must wonder why Vista demands that you have at least 256mb VRAM. It seems like a lot to make a window move around a little. Oh well, not really a big deal, as my PC still works great. Vista is suprisingly responsive if you have enough ram (I have 2gb), and even on my dinosaur P4 processor, it seems pretty responsive.

I have found a couple of issues: 1. Driver incompatibility - If you turn off the requiring of valid device signatures, about 97% of XP drivers still work fine. 2. The annoying security - The windows pop up constantly asking for permission; it doesn't really help anything, just gets very annoying. 3. 64 bit video codecs / drivers / everything else 64 bit - It's handy that Vista 64 comes with 64 bit video programs such as x64 Movie Maker. What's annoying is that 95% of video codecs aren't available in 64 bit, thus making the programs unusable.

Other than that, Vista is very nice. IE7 is fast and secure, windows defender has finally had the kinks worked out, and it seems that all of the windows programs are working well. I will state that Vista can be a little harder to get working, but once it is, it is quite enjoyable to use.

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I started using Vista In February

by nwslasvegas - 5/8/08 9:48 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I was concerned about switching to Vista, but bought a new Gateway with Vista installed and have not had a real problem. I am content with the OS.

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It just works.

by thljcl - 5/8/08 9:51 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I've used Windows Vista Home Premium (now with Service Pack 1) for more than a year. It just works well for me. I do not face any problem. No need to complaint. Do I love it? I guess so. I won't miss it until it is missing. (Just like the one whom you love, you will only miss him when he is not around.) I'm so used to Windows Vista now.

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Vista saved me money...

by dbpeart - 5/8/08 9:52 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I was just about to toss out my HP All-in-One Office Jet because the fax quit working with my XP machine. I purchased a new Vista computer, hooked up the printer and all is well. It saved me $500. Apart from Vista's love for huge RAM, I'm pretty happy with it.

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I'm NOT in the Silent Majority of for the Vista OS

by rjonanln - 5/8/08 9:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

First, if it were not for Microsoft, CNET probably would not be in business. With that said, probably a large part of CNET's business is PROMOTING Microsoft products. Weather they are for them or not, they are still promoting the products.

I've often thought that Microsoft was so cheap that they had coin slots for their toilet stalls in the employee bathrooms. With Bill Gates being one of the most wealthy men in the world, he has to charge very large amounts for his OS software. Why? He and Microsoft collectively have more money than 75% of the nations of the world. It appears, the more money they make the more they want. It comes down to just plain GREED.

The same with the Big Oil companny's. American's are trying to cut-back on usage, but the Oil Cartel is "Putting-the-screws" because they want to make more money for what they are loosing. The more we cut back in usage, the less they are going to produce which will drive the prices up even more.

Microsoft and the Big Oil companies have us by the balls.

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they're not cheap

by jnynetwk - 5/8/08 10:00 AM In reply to: I'm NOT in the Silent Majority of for the Vista OS by rjonanln

Oil politics asside, if you ever have the chance to visit redmond, you should. A college-like campus with free drinks, and when they throw a party for a launch or something, tons of food, free booze, etc. You may not like the price of the software (which I would imagine is driven by demand) but the company isn't stingy. Though they could spring for a few more parking spaces!

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???

by shireytex - 5/8/08 10:06 AM In reply to: I'm NOT in the Silent Majority of for the Vista OS by rjonanln

So, do you like Vista or not? I could only tell from your Post that you'll vote for Obama.
Shireytx

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slow start but love it now

by jnynetwk - 5/8/08 9:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

after a slow start with driver issues, which were really NVidia's falut not, MS, I've been running Vista, 64bit no less, for about a year and love it. It looks great, runs good, no real complaints.

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Love My Vista

by dminott - 5/8/08 9:59 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I've been using Vista since the early Beta days and have watched it mature into a great OS. I am currently using Microsoft OneCare for protection and I have yet to receive a virus. Some people are never happy... MS improves secuity and they balk about having to add a few extra clicks. I still use legacy hardware and software and everything integrates well. There are so many extra added little features that simplify and speed up my daily usage that when I use my Wife's laptop running XP, I now get frustrated!
The only way to appreciate these additios are to use the OS for about 2-3 months. I've always used top-of-the-line components, and I believe that a large percentage of user problems is due to faulty, or borderline, hardware.
In all this time, I can remember only one or two unrecoverable crashes, and they were my own fault! Just remember, you can make a system foolproof, but not damn fool proof!

Dave

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I like it

by senicynt - 5/8/08 9:59 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

For me, Vista 32 is much more stable than XP. No, Vista does not run every bit of software I own, but for my work requirements, it operates just fine. Of course, I had to gag that annoying 'security cop' feature to keep it from asking me if I really wanted to do something, but once he was tied up and gagged, Vista and I have gotten along just fine.

My home computer is XP pro and that thing locks fairly regularly but that may be due to the fact that I multitask until it chokes. :0)

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Silent? yes..Loving it? kinda sort.

by Auwingr - 5/8/08 10:11 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

My first experience was on a friends new computer and found Vista to have some cool new features. When my old laptop, running XP sp2, died I attempted to find a new laptop with XP. I found a few, but none that could handle the task at hand as far as memory, cpu, etc.
So, I purchased a new power laptop with Vista.
I can't say that I have had any real problems. Don't remember ever seeing the BSD and to me that's the best part.
I did upgrade my office suite, as it was pretty old, and a number of other software programs, but have functioned flawlessly.
So...yeah...I'm happy. Loving it? Kinda, sorta.
Vista does use a lot of memory and requires a good processor, otherwise you'll be waiting for ever for each program to load.
But...it has worked in my estimation, flawlessly.
PS. I installed SP1 as soon as it became available and did notice a minor improvement in performance.

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Since Minute 1

by kwilsonjr - 5/8/08 10:11 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

The Vista release at Midnight reminded me of the last time I waited in line into the wee hours to obtain a Microsoft OS. It was Windows 95. The departure from Windows 3.11 was to be the end all of computing.

It took 3 days to get Windows 95 up and running and I loved every minute of it. I think I slept about 4 hours over that 3 day period. But there it was in all its shining glory. I didn't get up from my home office chair for a week.

Vista was released in much the same way. There I was at 10:00pm standing in line at Best Buy with 30 or 40 other first release hopefuls. Only this time there were free cheeseburgers and hotdogs on the grill, sodas and a DJ spinning some tunes. There were Microsoft reps giving away those neoprene can cozies and other branded swag. Enough hoopla to keep the excitement from waning as the witching hour approached.

As the doors opened just past 10:00pm we were let in one at a time in single file and we were handed a USB thumbdrive (more MS branded swag) and a flyer with specials. Each store was to give away a top of the line HP laptop in a drawing, so my first stop was to fill out the entry form and drop it in the box.

I perused the newest 'Vista ready' laptops and found a laptop attached to a big screen plasma in the back of the store. It was online and running Vista. With no one around to tell me to go away, I sat down and started going over the features like I was sitting in my own living room.

Best Buy announced that you could purchase your copy of Vista prior to midnight, and have it waiting for you so you could leave as soon as the release was authorized by the in-store Microsoft reps. I bought Vista Ultimate upgrade since I already own XP. It came with both 32 and 64 bit versions on two separate DVD's.

Gathering all my swag I waited patiently for the laptop drawing, which ended up going to the guy sitting next to me. Always the bridesmaid and never the bride...damn. So I went to the customer service desk, picked up my prepaid and bagged copy of Ultimate and headed home for another Microsoft OS all nighter.

Now this was not my first 'upgrade' experience so I faithfully had my original XP disc on standby as I formatted my hard drive and prepared for a fresh installation of Vista Ultimate. The excitement was building as I stared at the clean slate before me waiting for new life to be breathed into it. I plunked the 64 bit disc into the DVD tray and rebooted, anxious to unleash the 64 bit power of my AMD Athlon 64 bit processor.

It booted into a familiar MS installation sequence and I was on my way. I went through the installation options, entered the lengthy serial number and then it happened. "You must install this version from within Windows". The upgrade process no longer required previous ownership validation by popping the original installation disc from your previous OS into the CD tray. Vista 'upgrade' would only install from an already existing, validated XP installation. Damit!

So I spent hours reinstalling XP, just so I could upgrade it. Not a happy camper at this point. The clock is ticking and I'm already tired.

I start the upgrade from within XP and it says in order to format the drive for a clean install, I need to boot from the disc. So I did. Re-entered all the info again and lo and behold I get the same message "You must install this version from within Windows". Apparently you cannot do a fresh install with the upgrade at all. Now I'm really mad.

I boot back into XP, start the upgrade process and follow the prompts until hours later I finally boot into Vista Ultimate. The first problem I had was it would not detect my network card so I had no Internet to get updates and drivers. It was a standard Linksys card and Vista was blind to it. Ugghh.

I used my laptop, found some drivers and transferred them via the new thumbdrive Microsoft gave me. Now I see the logic in that giveaway.

Things get a little better from here, other than to say 64 bit drivers are virtually non-existent and this point. I get by with help from forum blogs packed with people offering problems and some solutions.

I ended up dumping 64 bit and reinstalling 32 bit. It has been running faithfully side by side with my XP machine on the same network. I stayed with it through all the slamming, insults and general hate mongering. I took time to get to know it and all its quirks.

I don't like the search feature, preferring the old method of file searching but it has been very stable and as my favorite programs became updated to accommodate Vista, my computing life normalized under the new Vista banner.

With the release of Vista SP1, I found many minor annoyances have disappeared and it seems to be running like clockwork. Now it seems that every program I look at, or piece of hardware I covet are now Vista compatible. The long walk through the desert of loneliness has ended and I am better for having endured it. I have seen the face of Vista, and it is good.

Ken Wilson
San Diego CA

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Vista so-so

by empken - 5/8/08 10:11 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

I have Vista on my laptop. I had some driver issues but nothing too serious... but in building new systems, I chosen XP over Vista. My biggest complaints are two things; the "Mother-may-I?" approach to security and Virtual Save. Coming from a DOS background where I felt like I had some control over my OS, Vista adds yet more Wizards and layers trying to fool-proof their OS.

I realize some may be some are comforted by the "are you really, really sure" want to run or delete this file approach? I am not. Personally asking me once is enough. Microsoft gives you dire warnings if you turn off this extra layer of security which gives me some pause it doing it.

With regards to Virtual Save, as a content provider I can't tell you how long it took me to find the files in explorer that I thought I saved in my application folder. For those who don't know about this new "feature", Microsoft saves application data & files to a different location even though the files in the application appear to be in the application folder. What is the downside to saving the files in the application folder there suppose to be in?

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Much Ado about ????

by shafferw - 5/8/08 10:12 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustar

Been using it without problems and in some ways it is better. Some folks just have issues.

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