Windows Vista: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista?
- 5/7/08 10:29 PM
Look at the Poll: Vista haters aren't even users !!
by bigmutt - 5/8/08 6:56 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
35% of those replying don't own it and hate it at the same time; that just shows you what an infantile attitude there is about Vista out there.
Just like a little kid who won't eat peas & carrots because he "hates vegetables". Once that kid grows up he'll most likely love peas and carrots.
Do you have to own something to hate it?
by rbsjrx - 5/8/08 10:51 AM In reply to: Look at the Poll: Vista haters aren't even users !! by bigmuttGenerally speaking, I hate GM cars, even though I haven't owned one in years. However, my daughter owns one with which I'm very familiar. Many times when I travel, I rent one. And, lots of friends, colleagues and acquaintances own them. I'm hardly unfamiliar with them, but I don't own one.
If you had complained about people hating Vista without having any solid experience to back it up, only gossip and hearsay, then your point would be valid. However, as stated, it's nonsense.
A simple "Why should I change" proof...
by st4000 - 5/8/08 7:01 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Assumption:
Software gets better (more stable (i.e. fixes)) with (user face) time.
Fact:
XP's been around, Vista is new.
Reasoning:
Why should I change?
New PC? - Go with Vista-Switch back if you need to.
by First Adopter - 5/8/08 7:03 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
As a "home" user who does all the "standard" stuff plus some SIMPLE web site development, photo & video production, and newsletter creation; I've used them all from DOS to XP. As an XP user,I am in the process of purchasing a new PC. My advice to those, who must buy a PC NOW, goes like this: Since most PC's now come with Vista, and the cost of purchasing Vista, separately, is high; it seems to me that the answer is to buy a PC with Vista installed. Then use it, and if it is too painful or costly(need to purchase new S/W or equipment), switch back to XP and wait for Vista SP2 which like prior OS's should have solved most of the problems. Once SP2 is available, switch back to the Vista copy you already own as part of your PC purchase, get the SP2 update and try again. I think XP is supported out to 2012, or something like that, so for many users there is no need to switch to Vista, except for the new PC purchase issue. I know one person who is responsible for purchasing very large quantities of PC's for a business environment. He, after trying to make Vista work in their environment, did decide to stay with XP and wait for things to settle down a bit more.
I like Vista
by sentellg - 5/8/08 7:32 AM In reply to: New PC? - Go with Vista-Switch back if you need to. by First AdopterI have had Vista Ultimate since it first came out retail. I did an upgrade from XP on my home (lab) computer (dual-boot with Ubuntu) which I built about 18 months before. I found some problems with drivers and older software - but most problems I had anticipated. I enjoy tweaking and playing with new OS's more than most. I probably installed and re-installed Vista a dozen times before I was satisfied that I had it right.
I bought a new Dell system for my wife with Home Premium. How boring - nothing to do. It worked right out of the box - well at least once I repartitioned the HD to get rid of the dumb Dell utility partition and break it down into partition sizes I could live with.
I like Vista. As long as you have decent modern hardware and sufficient memory, I consider it stable,much better at home networking and aesthetically pleasing.
I like it but am glad I waited....
by Muad Dib - 5/8/08 7:48 AM In reply to: New PC? - Go with Vista-Switch back if you need to. by First AdopterFor my personal use I have moved to Vista 32 bit. I actually dual boot with XP Pro as my fail-safe.
Thus far I like it but am glad I waited for Vista SP1.
For my clients I am keeping them at Windows XP Pro SP2 simply because, for their purposes, Vista has no significant benefits to offer them yet while it does have a learning curve in basic operation. So until I can say, with a straight face, "Vista will help you in these areas ......" I cannot suggest they undergo the upgrade learning curve/pains since they have not even mastered XP Pro after several years of use.
As for others and their individual choice .... the "not so hidden" costs of Vista is not the OS itself. Users need to account for hardware/driver compatibility, but equally important is the cost of upgrading all their third party software. As is customary, software vendors are making a small fortune forcing users to buy "Vista compatible" upgrades at "discount prices".
As the saying goes "buyer beware". That ~$100 OS upgrade may cost you $500+ in third party software upgrades. As example I offer MS Office 2007, Sound Forge 9.0, etc.
What’s your personal experience with Vista?
by egnlsn - 5/8/08 7:16 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I've been using Vista since shortly after it came out and have absolutely loved it from the beginning!
Vista versus any previous OS
by rascal2 - 5/8/08 7:17 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have always used windows since 3.1 and the history is that with each release there is an immediate correction in the form of 'service packs'and 'security updates' that sometimes create a new set of problems in themselves. Then there is the issue of the system resource reqiurements increase with each release creating a need to upgrade also. it seems to me that ever since 3.1 that just as soon as it gets running good a 'new' OS comes out and you have to start all over again with the service packs and security updates and the hardware compatability etc... some say it will never end but then again there is an apple. It is important to incorporate a new 64 bit system for the new software yet to be written though.
Windows Vista Ultimate
by Jason Wragg - 5/8/08 7:27 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Fantastic!
I have had vista for the past year, & despite a few minor problems, am extremely happy with it, i use it on three machines, and am about to build a fourth, going for a Pentium Duo 2 Quad Core 2.4 Ghz, Can`t wait.
The best thing about it is the restore, & complete system backup facilities on an external hard drive should anything go wrong!
Ps: It looks great as well!
Working with Vista Home Premium 64 bit
by nikonman458 - 5/8/08 7:38 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I currently upgraded to Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit. The software is great but it's very hard to get drivers for programs that will support it. My biggest challenge is getting support for the 64 bit software. Any suggestions/comments will be very helpful!
Nikonman458
Deja Vu All Over Again
by Dashkatt - 5/8/08 7:45 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I remember when panic set in and the emails were flying: "OMG! Do NOT get Windows XP!", "XP will ruin your computer!", and my favorite: "You'll be much happier with Windows 98"
Anyone else get those panic stricken emails/warnings? 
I considered their warnings, but as always made my own decision. The rest was XP history.
Now, a similar situation with Vista arises and the panic emails began again. Perhaps there are more extenuating circumstances involving Vista driver issues, cheap and weak store-bought computers and more. But aren't these the same issues we faced with the transition from Win98 to XP? Sure, I had to throw away a few peripherals that were never supported by XP like I'm sure others had to. But honestly, the improvement of the OS and the new peripherals was quite noticeable.
With Vista 64 bit, I had to replace a 7 year-old printer. Good riddance, I say, to the ink-drinking boat anchor my HP had become.
The funny part is that the "Dire Warnings" did give me concern for Vista so as a precaution when I built a new system to run Vista, I added an extra HDD with a brand new version of XP on it for separate Dual booting. What a waste of money that turned out to be.
So how do I like Vista? I love Vista, and the more I explore and understand Vista the more I love it.
So, once again, Chicken Little got it wrong. I bought Vista and the sky did not fall.
Maybe I'll run into a major problem with Vista down the road. But for now it boots quickly and runs very fast and runs properly. I'm no Microsoft fan boy, I just find the OS to be productive and effective.
Abit IP35-PRO, INTEL E-6750 C2D-2.8 Ghz, 4GB Corsair XMX PC800 RAM
Re: Deja Vu All Over Again
by rbsjrx - 5/8/08 11:01 AM In reply to: Deja Vu All Over Again by Dashkatt"I remember when panic set in and the emails were flying: 'OMG! Do NOT get Windows XP!', 'XP will ruin your computer!', and my favorite: 'You'll be much happier with Windows 98'."
And they were right. The WinXP MCE SP2 I use today is several generations removed from the original WinXP. I took my time migrating from Win98 to Win2k, then from Win2k to WInXP. If Microsoft has proven anything over the years, it's that you should <u>NEVER</u> buy the initial version of any MS product!
Right now, Vista is at SP1. If I weren't going to retire in a couple of years, I'd probably be planning to upgrade to Vista SP2 in another year or two. But I will be retiring, and so I'm planning on migrating almost entirely to Linux instead. This particular member of MS's cash cow herd is officially drying up...
I stay as far away from Microsoft as possible
by kenoli - 5/8/08 7:48 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
My new girlfriend has a Windows computer with Vista on it and I have found it as confusing and objectionable as any version of Windows. It is always doing things to her computer without asking. It is difficult to find things and search for things. It seems to have a very draconian idea of the way things should be done and set up and will not tolerate any deviation. Every time you turn around you are dealing with some anti-virus program or scan. It has a wizard for everything that seems determined to force you into a mindless series of questions that it is going to answer for itself anyway (a lot like talking to your credit card company computer). You have to go through a tedious process with the system disc or a new driver for every piece of hardware you attach to the computer. It is hard to find how to get into things in order to set things up the way you want them. It can't read or run media that isn't exactly as it wants it, including hard disks that are formatted in anything but its way. CDROM and hard drive icons are hidden away from the desktop (why can't windows deal with devices the same way as files like UNIX and Apple do). It hides extensions and any detailed information about files. IE is the most difficult to design to web browser I have ever seen. 3/4 of all discussions among web developers are about how to get things to work on IE. Everything is proprietary. You can only install it on the machine it was purchased with. Microsoft is a great big vacuum sucking every penny it can get from everyone.
And . . . it is the clunkiest, slowest operating system I have ever used, which, from the myriad suggestions I have found on listservs about this problem, seems to be a widespread issue.
I couldn't care less if Microsoft continued Vista or not. Give me Unix or MacIntosh any day.
How's that?
I needed a 64bit Windows so I had to switch to it.
by 7aji88 - 5/8/08 7:55 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Since the majority of hardware makers have drivers for Vista 64bit and not XP 64bit, I changed to Vista; however Creative just have the driver for my XFI sound card without all the programs that will let me use all of it's features, also I have a HP scanner that has a freaking "hilarious" message on their website
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01123715&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=58381
I mean wow HP thanks. Still I kind of like Vista more than XP, but still it got some annoying things that takes away the good things so to me it's the same as XP in a way.
I'm learning to love it.
by toryander - 5/8/08 7:55 AM In reply to: Poll: What’s your personal experience with Vista? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Initially I bashed Vista with everyone else. My main problem was that I couldn't get the internet to stay up over my wireless network. But since I swapped computers with my wife and brought the Vista machine to where I can plug it directly into the router I have had no Internet problems. With that problem out of the way, I have been able to focus on the interface itself, and I really like it. In fact, this computer (newer and faster than my XP machine)and Vista is working very well for me. It runs faster and has made my work-from-home job over the Internet better. There are still a couple of annoying problems I haven't figured out, but the Interface is charming me and I look forward to booting up in the morning.
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