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Maturity
by whmurray - 5/8/08 6:53 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarIt is difficult to love an operating system. As with living with people, living with an operating system is difficult. Maturity helps a lot and therefore, timing is everything.
I waited for more than two years to buy a new laptop until Vista was "ready." Imagine my feelings when I found that my HP 2510 printer was "not supported." However, by the time that I had gotten all of my applications migrated and stable, HP delivered the drivers. In some ways, the printer works better under Vista than under XP/SP2.
Vista and I still have a lot to learn about living with one another. I am sure that we will work it out if Vista just learns to pick up after herself.
yes there are enough work-arounds/fixes for vista
by bus - 5/8/08 6:53 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarMy issues at this point are,
that many of the work-a-rounds/fixes are only 97% effective,
purchasing new equipment still requires making sure it is vista compatible and backwards compatible with at least XP,
and worrying about service packs making the newly purchased peripherals inoperative.
its not bad
by keeba29 - 5/8/08 6:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustari dont hate it like i thought i was going to. i like it, but im not IN LOVE with it. still like xp better. only beef is with my laptop. i have an a215 model toshiba and it black screens on me because of faulty hardware. all toshiba will do is replace with the same faulty hardware. so guys if you this laptop and it black screens on you ...its not vista. vista actualy works pretty nicely aside from the cancel or allow crap. usualy it asks me twice if i want something to install. if i said yes the first time i mean it. i dont a second and even third screen asking me if if i really want to. overall vista isnt bad. btw my system specs are 160gb hdd,2gb of ram n ati video card. i dont remember what kind but i can run a second monitor with it.
Vista 64 Rock Solid
by Hoppman - 5/8/08 6:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI installed Vista 64 on a new home built pc over one year ago. I have had NOT ONE, NONE, NADA, significant issue to date. I found drivers for all of my peripherals and everything runs like a champ. Applications that didn't run perfecty, Adobe reader and ITunes (since removed), I found work arounds for. I don't blame MS for the problems with those apps, I blame lazy Apple and Adobe for not getting their products up to speed.
UAC would be fine with a little tuning, allow admins to set exceptions for things that we don't want to be prompted for all the time. Yes I know you can turn it off but that defeats the purpose.
Vista is bloated, I give the MS haters that, but it is the MOST stable MS OS to date. I would like to see MS make a stripped down version of its next OS, similar to what MS is doing with the Server 2008 line of products. Allow the user to add the pieces they want when they want them. MS needs to go all 64Bit and dump the 32Bit versions and push computing forward.
All in all Vista runs just fine for me but you need the proper hardware to run it.
Several machines, no gripes, lots of pluses
by macmcf - 5/8/08 6:55 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarAs usual, Mickysoft ships the OS undocumented, assumes the users are idiots, and hides some of the best features from the lusers, but there's a lot to like here besides a pretty face. People are still selling software to help reformat and repartition disks and to monitor performance, even though these capabilities are excellently performed by the built-in utilities of the OS itself (if you know how to get to them). The real problem with Vista is a lack of education on its use.
I did find one good thing about Vista
by dsafety - 5/8/08 6:56 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI am definately not one of those who has anything positive to say about Vista. I have experienced just about every one of the problems that the masses have complained about. The other day, I discovered one good thing about Microsoft's latest Beta release we call Vista... free tech support from Microsoft.
Last week I installed SP1 and the boot time extended from a poor three minutes to about 15 minutes. I could not find any information online as to how to fix this problem. Frustrated, I went to the Vista support site and to my great surprise discovered that unlike previous versions of Windows, MS offers free tech support via online chats. My agent, (in India, I think), spent nearly two hours with me and eventually fixed the problem. He even called me after the session ended to make sure I was happy.
This is not the Microsoft that we all know so well. You know, the one that is always trying to pry a few more dollars from its customers by charging for support of defective software. Kudos to you Microsoft. Lets hope that this is a new policy trend.
Loving the touch screen capabilites.
by Laviniapraise - 5/8/08 6:58 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI got an HP TouchSmart PC with the 19" touch screen that Vista makes possible. I've had it for almost a year and have not had any problems with it or Vista. The touch screen rocks! I'm not even silent about it. We have a family of 5 who all use this computer for utility and multi-media, but it is not the gaming computer, so I can't comment on Vista for gaming.
Vista
by djmcg90 - 5/8/08 7:00 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI'm happy enough with it. I'm getting slightly more stability than XP. I'm not noticing any performance trade off and find graphic image handling a little friendlier.
(NT) Can We Please Stop the Bot that's Spamming this Thread?
by PressAnyKey - 5/8/08 7:01 AM In reply to: Vista by djmcg90Vista
by zydecolegs - 5/8/08 7:02 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI purchased a new Toshiba laptop in the Fall of 2007 and it came with Vista. [My other laptop was XP.] I actually did not start using the new PC until Jan 2008 and had quite a few problems at first with peripheral software, etc. However with a little bit of research and installation of driver upgrades, I have been using it for 3 months without any problems at all. I've never been 'in love' with any OS, so I'll stop short of saying I'm a silent Vista-loving user, but I'm very pleased with it. 
Vista- and loving it!?!?
by TheManInDboX - 5/8/08 7:03 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarWell, i have had vista for over a year, both virtual and physical, there are many limitations with the OS, now while it is a viable alternative to XP in home use, it is still way to flakey to be used in business. As a fact, if XP is killed, my company is prepared to move to Ubuntu, as if the OS vista is the only windows OS, that would mean that all our software would then need to be repurchased, this is not only expensive, but due to new licencing, it is cheaper to just move to Ubuntu. 2k8 server, which is alot like the vista OS, as it turns out is a great OS for a home, business end user machine. It has all the crap that vista has, but is defaulted as being turned off. No superfetch, no areo, no bizarre looking desktop, but if you want all of that, you can turn it on. The OS runs smoothly, and also is compatible with most 2k3/xp software, and drivers. I have been using 2k8 since beta, and there is nothing better then this OS out there. It is unfortunate MS does not make a slimmed down version of 2k8 and use that as there home based machine, and then sell vista as just a alternative, like ME. If they would do that, it would save tons of headaches, and tons of customers.
Issues with Vista:
1. In a laptop there are 2 registry keys needed to be deleted, or the power management at 5% battery life causes a BSOD
2. The burning utility that was found in Xp, is more like apple and will not allow you to burn a Cd of MP3's that work in a car
3. Nero, will install, but requires you to delete 3 registry keys or the drive cannot be found
4. BSOD is frequent if you use an external Hard drive
5. defrag utility is required daily if superfetch is turned on, also suggest a utility called Pagefrag, found on technet, and ran daily
6. Page file if located on a diffrent drive helps performance, set min to max and dont use more then 3000mb of space on a 4gb memory 32bit os, as that will help max the memory, and not tax HD speed
7. BSOD due to heat issues with video games is frequent, as vista requires alot of vid memory to just stay afloat.
8. there are no dos based utility commands as in XP that help to clean out viruses.
9. Windows defender if unwanted, cannot be removed from add/remove programs and must be hacked out of the registry.
10. compaired to XP vista is a dog...
11. Suggest getting a licence to run 2k8 over vista, it is much much better....
Vista? well it was a nice idea, but then so was ME
Vista - silent loving
by Goplayhorses - 5/8/08 7:09 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've used Vista for over a year. At first it took some getting used to but once learned, it works great. What I like about it is if new drivers and software updates are needed, Vista lists them for you to download, In addition Vista sends Microsft a list of problems encountered and Microsoft then fixes the problem if you have automatic updates.
positive Vista experience
by dahump - 5/8/08 7:11 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarLast year about this time I bought two computers with Vista pre-installed. I have had relatively few problems. My only major incompatibility was with MusicMatch Jukebox which I really liked. I have since become used to Media Player.
One major positive thing is that I don't see 'crashes' anymore and Microsoft hasn't had to add a Service Pack 2 to get to that point.
This isn't to say that some of my old programs don't work with Vista but I have found other substitutes.
Overall, I am happy.
Well I wouldnt say I love it.
by Iwantone - 5/8/08 7:12 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarAs far as day to day use- no problems but the anomolies are just wired/ New Sony VAIO laptop top of th eline 4 gig ram even use Express card for Turbo boost of 4 GIG.
1> Wish speed was better- you do get the feel that this is bloatware to a point with a DOS command line underneath all the fun stuff.
2> When I right click on a file I have to wait like 3 seconds for the menu to come up? ***?
3> When I go to defrag my hard drive the defrag shows its working but can stay on for a couple of days (I did this) and it didnt finish. But my hard drive works perfectly.*** II
4> After years of getting us to revolve our worlds around "My Documents" of XP why change that in Vista? MS talked us into that now talks us out of it.
Also I think there is a huge lack of forward thinking with aproject so ambitious- after all the big brains at MS and the billions spent and the billion lines of code why cant I pick and choose my right click menus to suit the way I WANT TO WORK? They are fixed and for the life of me I cant figure out why.
5> Also why cant I COLOR FILE NAMES IN EXPLORER? such as hey Jim Im sending you a USB stick ONLY TAKE THE FILES THAT ARE GREEN! Or my recently used files or folders would automagically be in Red or the color of my choosing.
I have lists of other things that an OS should do but the above two should just be standard out of the box stuff after all this time and money. Is Vista better than OS X? Naw OSX just seems so buttoned down- yes they have problems too (I havent though) but its not that far behind either. Ill keep using it and I still like the concept at least of the start button.
Is bigger better?
by willivon4 - 5/8/08 7:12 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have what for me is a natural scepticism about systems that routinely multiply in size exponentially with each new product generation. That seems to be the routine case with Windows operating systems. As a frame of reference, I work as a biomedical engineering technician in a Veterans Health Administration hospital. That routinely brings my efforts to improve veterans' health care in conflict with the intransigent beaurocracy that is in large part a function of the size of the Federal Government. Also the consolidation running rampant in health care technology over the past decades has resulted in my having to deal with increases in the size of beaurocracies of the vendors.
I just don't buy that bigger can by nature be better. I've found it to usually be the oposite.
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