Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?
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by myrcrr - 5/8/08 5:41 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarIt only been a couple of weeks since I have my new COMPUTER with window visa and sort of LOVE IT I am between yes and no...Last week it log me out of my system and it was pretty UPSETTING.
Vista is pretty good to me
by pfletcher - 5/8/08 5:44 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarMy only gripe is the licensing - there should be some kind of family deal.
Otherwise no real issues, using CS3, Office 2007, Canon DPP and Expressions Studio. It did appreciate more memory, but when I switched to XP that was the scenario.
Better than Leopard OSX.
by studiotropico - 5/8/08 5:44 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI tried an iMac with Leopard OSX. Pitiful. I'm happy with Vista. Hardware and software issues can be resolved.
Vista is Flawless for me!
by LarryQW - 5/8/08 5:45 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have a Dell Precision 390 desktop and a Dell Inspirion laptop.
The desktop came with Vista Ultimate installed. I did a free upgrade to Vista on the laptop after 3 months. These computers never had a single issue or blue screen from the OS. (Although I had a bad disk that had to be replaced.)
I was impressed that my Precision boots up in 30 seconds to the login screen and another 20 seconds after that. (My dual 10,000 RPM disks in Raid 0 help here.) It turns off in 7 seconds. But I only turn my desktop off maybe once every month or two when I need to upgrade software. Vista is bullet proof on my computer. According to my UPS, in sleep mode, my PC goes down from 120 Watts to 8 Watts. (The 24" LCD uses another 60 Watts.) As such I keep it on
I love the new features such as the sidebar, being able to type a name in the start menu to immediate find and go to a program or file, the improved indexing, the Aero look, and many other things. I thought the aero scroll between screens was nice, but it takes two buttons to swap Windows, versus just one button by holding the mouse over the tabs and looking at the small preview - that's the real speed up.
I use my computers for intensive computing such as HD video editing, map creation, photo editing, scientific programming with Visual Studio, mechanical and electonic CAD, and many other things. The multi-threaded OS and programs work great and very fast with my dual core processor.
I really like the Defender that looks for Spyware, especially its "Software Explorer" tool that is better than the Task Manager at reviewing progarams running. And there's other cleaning functions that help keep my computer secure on top of the anti-virus programs. I enjoy the maintenance features that help find programs with performance issues, and recommend updates that regularly fix these programs as well.
In general, Vista is a major improvement over XP in terms of usability, security, reliability, and support.
Love Vista Too
by mikedgolf40505 - 5/8/08 5:46 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have never understood the Vista haters. I agree with Lee that all new OS's have a break in period and compatibility issues. I have to think that the people that hate Vista are from a tech aspect ignorant. The vendors get the beta of all new OSs 6-12 months out so they can come up with drivers for their existing products and make their new ones compatible. Did it ever occur to any of the Vista haters that maybe the fault lies with the hardware companies? Do you not know anything about a capitalist economy? They probably did not come up with new drivers because they want you buy a new printer or whatever hardware item it is. I do not have a loyalty in the OS war. I own a HP DV9000t with Vista, and a MacBook Pro with Leopard. I like both operating systems. They both have their good and their bad points. Once I got all the crapware off of my Vista machine it ran great!! Crapware has been around for a long time and is not going away; that is not Microsoft's fault. In my opinion most of the columnists and bloggers that hate Vista are either Macophiles or open source junkies and therefore have a predisposed axe to grind.
Vista is better than XP SP2
by letmegopleez - 5/8/08 5:58 AM In reply to: Love Vista Too by mikedgolf40505XP SP2 is the first Windoze OS that worked well. Vista is more stable and has more features than XP SP2, so it's obviously better.
While I agree that it may not make fiscal sense to ditch XP SP2 for Vista on a fairly new machine that happily runs XP SP2, I haven't yet seen any sane rationale for removing Vista from a brand new machine and downgrading to XP SP2. [Exceptions for special situations, of course.]
If you're buying your Mom a new PC for Mother's Day and downgrading to XP SP2, your Mom needs a new IT specialist. 
Is Vista wonderful? No. Is it better than XP SP2? Of course. I'd never go back willingly.
More security is worth it to me
by alex_durham - 5/8/08 5:48 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have been using Vista for about 6 months now (Ultimate 32 bit version). I haven't had any issues with performance because Vista came on my new laptop which was fairly top of the line at the time (4GB RAM, 2.4 GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo). I haven't had any peripheral issues either but I only really connect to a printer and a mouse. I think a lot of the frustration comes from users who have underpowered machines. This is not their fault as many manufacturers sold machines barely capable of running Vista (particularly ones with Vista Basic). I still see them out there today, but within a year or so, that problem will be gone. The backwards compatibility issues should ease with time as well.
The good: the main benefit is semi-hidden. Vista is vastly more secure than XP. The only indication to the user is the prompts for installation of software. Some people are annoyed by this. I however, am greatly comforted by this, knowing that nothing will surreptitiously install on my machine. And I know it is cosemtic, but I like Aero. It makes the machine feel more slick and modern.
The bad: It is still bloated and takes up more resources than an OS should. I think Microsoft's only way to cure this is to start from the ground up again, which may cause a lot of backwards compatibility issues (think Mac OS 9 to OS X switch) but may finally produce a quality modern OS. It seems that maybe they are doing this by stripping Windows down to its core again, but this remains to be seen.
Overall: Vista is evolutionary and not revolutionary. I love the better security and I like the new UI elements. But you need a very powerful machine to run it effectively and if you use a lot of 3rd party apps and hardware you could have some pains.
My Vista is just fine
by precious81098 - 5/8/08 5:48 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarNot a techie, here. I have a Dell XPS 1210 with the pre-installed Vista Home Premium. I like so many of the features, like being able to dictate my writing instead of typing with the voice recognition, seeing a reduced version of webpages when flipping back and forth, etc. Any problems I've had with programs such as Sims 2 and Quicken H&B '08 are resolved by running as admin. Installation of new software can be tricky for me sometimes, but the things I need seem to be working just fine.
I'm one
by joolz - 5/8/08 5:51 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've had my Dell laptop with Vista since Feb. '07. Once I turned off the security access warnings I've been loving it. Took a minute to get used to the new structure in Explorer, too, but I expected something to change. It's fast, it's pretty, it's been very reliable. I've not had one blue screen, no peripherals that did not work. No issues. Only quirky thing has been my printer keeps creating new copies of itself, but I can manage that.
Count me as one of those who love Vista.
I'm happy with it.
by dmalcolm - 5/8/08 5:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI had the happy circumstance of buying new hardware (Intel Q6600 quad core, 4GB RAM, SLI, SATA, etc) and a free copy of Ultimate that a consulting customer provided. Had a couple problems setting it up (Vista 64) (Vista out of the box doesn't like 4GB) but eventually I found the right drivers & patches, replaced software that was never going to work or waited long enough for vendors to catch up. I really have no problem now. Like it better than XP Pro but only a little. I have run Vista on less capable systems and it does seem to be a resource hog, but if you give it resources, it is quick. I think SP1 did help. I personally got a lot more happy once I turned off UAC.
Home Premium works great on my new laptop
by elmercj - 5/8/08 5:54 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarNo problems what-so-ever. No crashes. No hangs. No driver problems. I am not a game guy, tho. It does all the basic stuff well.
Elmer
I haven't been all that silent.
by pinkfloyd1973 - 5/8/08 5:59 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've had Vista for 6 months. I think it's ok, but like most people a new operating system is not much different than a new tool, there new familarities to get used too, some pros and cons alike. I give Vista a thumbs up. I've had no compatablitity issues really, one little hurdle, but I made through.
The Silent Majority
by oliverru - 5/8/08 6:00 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI'm just getting a real kick out of the association bewtween Vista (Microsoft) and The Silent Majority (Richard Nixon). Ironically fitting 
We're not all Americans...
by chustar - 5/8/08 6:16 AM In reply to: The Silent Majority by oliverruSo we might not get the Nixon reference. (I'm not and I didn't)
What he means is that Richard Nixon first used the term to refer to a hypothetical "silent majority" who didn't protest the war but voted for him in the elections, enabling him to win in a landslide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_majority
No problems thus far!
by adlpated - 5/8/08 6:05 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI purchased a tablet PC a couple months ago, and of course it had Vista. I begged them to put XP on it, but no go. Well, I've got Vista and have had no problems. I've installed software, run software, traded out PNPs - no problems. Several of the issues I heard others complain about never materialized for me. Perhaps it's because I'm not an early adopter, and therefore many of the bugs have been worked out by now. So, I guess I'd say I love it, or at least am seriously in like.
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