Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Silent Vista-loving majority?
extreme
by Sinixstar - 5/8/08 1:16 AM In reply to: Silent Majority? by genevenI think that's a bit of an extreme view to take.
like vista!
by fiona-grace - 5/8/08 7:53 AM In reply to: extreme by Sinixstarhya everyone!
well i started off with windows 95, then 98 and then me and then xp and now vista!
i did like xp, i thought it looked 'nice' but hey i am female!
my old computer died on me so i had to buy another and i initially did want one with xp installed but in the end i went with vista ultimate and so far so good! i have had no real driver problems and my computer is running smoothly and no freeze ups, towards the end of xp it was abit of a nightmare!
i wish that microsoft would just bring out one os and stick with it, you know improve it but make it so everyone can have it, you know once you have bought one os why should you have to keep upgrading cos microsoft want to make a new windows?
they say xp is ageing - why is it ageing? cos microsoft say so?
is an os a sorta fashion accesory?
yeah this is my first post on here, normally i just look!
vista pretty good
by bgarra - 5/8/08 1:14 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have found vista to be very sensitive to spyware and antivirus software and also has many registry errors after install. Once these are dealt with...it performs nicely...after a little long boot oup
Silent Vista-loving majority
by Larry Rydel - 5/8/08 1:19 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have been using Vista since the day it hit the shelves and prior to that I was a beta-tester. I love Vista and would not even consider going back to XP. I had a few problems when I upgraded to 64-bit version but an computer upgrade that was long overdue solved all problems.
Vista Loving it
by gizmops - 5/8/08 1:19 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI bought a new machine with XP pre installed. I had Vista Ultimate on my previous XP machine and upgraded the new machine.
Absolutely fine, no problems at all.
Some of my old hardware, HP scanner wouldnt work, no drivers available or goinf to be. Thats an HP problem, dumped it and bought a Canon. No problem. My old Canon printer works fine with the new drivers. As above it was only HP who wrote off existing customers and advised me to purchase new equpment from them. They are having a laugh.
Ultimate and Home Premium
by 1choice.com.au - 5/8/08 1:21 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarWe knew we had to get Vista in order to answer questions when others bought it and got lost, so we went the 'whole hog' with Vista Ultimate. Since then we've installed and maintained computers with most flavours and found that the incidences of problems with Vista have come from (in order)
1. upgrade versions
2. Any version of Vista other than Ultimate or Home Premium
i.e. zero problems with these two.
Whether this is indicative of the wider community I can't say and obviously begs the question, "why should ANY of the Vista flavours have problems?" - but that's what we've seen.
Drivers Needed
by majroth22 - 5/8/08 1:22 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI've churned through two laptops with Vista (one died and the other lost its Vista image sector). I had faithfully backed up as directed by Acer not realizing that in the small print somewhere that if the image portion of the HD is damaged it won't revert back to any previous registry state. After much licensing and Microsquishy price gouging hassles, along with non-existent drivers for hardware in either XP or Vista, I moved on to OpenSuse. I have the same hardware driver hassles but it's a free exercise in futility (AC97 sound and athero wireless don't work) rather than a $300+ hole of never ending torment. The latest releases of Mandrake or Ubuntu/Sun's joint OS might cure these ills.
My only other complaint about Vista was its slowness compared to almost every other OS out there.
can't even run an open source OS ?
by Sinixstar - 5/8/08 1:25 AM In reply to: Drivers Needed by majroth22no offence, but it sounds like you're having a hard time getting ANY os to run on your machine.
that hardly sounds like a vista problem.
"slow compared to every other OS out there"....
I'm inclined to think - given your own comments - that perhaps you should think about better/newer hardware.
Those who trust MS - the shrinking majority
by algreig - 5/8/08 1:25 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarDaily I encounter people who are frustrated with MS, and on a weekly basis I am switching people over to a mature, stable, secure OS with heaps of applications. Linux. Vista has been the best thing for Macs and Linux. Let's face it, MS is a try hard, but the real power has passed from their grip. Customers are fed up with outrageous vendor lockin. They no longer trust the giant. MS is now the ogre. "Vista capable" is now the target of a class action law suit, because VIsta was incapable and people spent their money. A lot will never go back. A friend of mine recently purchased a Toshiba notebook - Vista Capable, and it was a lemon. I inquired of Toshiba if she could revert to her licensed copy of XP. I was told, sorry, there are no XP drivers for your notebook. I encouraged her to return it for a refund, but the salesman sold her some more RAM (give me strength), and it is passable. Still not exciting. So the other day I tried a couple of Linux "live CDs" to see how the hardware would cope. Wow, everything worked out of the box, so another happy Linux customer coming up. Booked her in for next week. So Mandriva 1 with Gnome desktop, looks gorgeous, works well. Kubuntu with the KDE desktop looks gorgeous and works well. I figure if MS takes too long to get Windows 7 to market, it will be game over.
that's great for your friend...
by Sinixstar - 5/8/08 1:36 AM In reply to: Those who trust MS - the shrinking majority by algreigBut the rest of us live in the real world.
I wonder what would happen if your friend said to one of her F500 clients "Sorry, I can't access that, i'm on Linux...".
This says nothing of how and why MS got where they are today.
People don't want one machine for work, and a totally different one for home. They want one platform across the board that can run business apps at work, and consumer apps at home - and is familier across the board. Sorry, but that rules out Mac and Linux right off the bat.
You're obviously going to get some cross over here and there of people who want something new, and ultimately - if it works for them, then great. Bottom line is, as long as the business community continues to rely on microsoft technologies, the vast majority of end users will as well.
I Live in the real world
by algreig - 5/8/08 7:10 AM In reply to: that's great for your friend... by SinixstarI do live in the real world, and for the last 8 years I have run my business on a desktop using Mandrake/Mandriva Linux, in a dual boot machine with Win98SE at first, then XP Pro. I think XP Pro is a great OS, but I don't work in it because for 8 years I have got on fine, IN THE REAL WORLD, communicating with other businesses which were Windows based. I never had a compatibility problem, ever.
Now I am not a geek, I do not work in IT, I work with IT. I am a user not a creator of software. I've been in automotive for 20 years, I use spanners. I am not a graphic designer. I work, I create invoices, I write letters, I send emails, I surf the Net, I take photos, listen to music. I do not play games - so you can see a Linux machine is a perfect fit for me. If someone is happy with Windows, I leave them alone. But when my brother and I set my 83 year old Dad up with a computer for his letter writing, I set him up with Mandriva. He has no problems at all.
Some people think that Linux should be a Windows replacement, it should do things the Windows way. Well Linux is an alternative, not a clone of Windows, and thank God for that! I need no virus checker, I don't have to defrag, I do not have to do a clean install every year to get the performance back.
As I said, MS had better get Windows 7 out quick or it's game over!
Cross Platform Office Software-OpenOffice
by majroth22 - 5/13/08 12:17 AM In reply to: that's great for your friend... by SinixstarI use OpenOffice and the GIMP(spreadsheet, word processor, draw program, etc) on all 3 operating systems: Mac OSX 10.3.9, Linux Ubuntu, OpenSuse, XP, but not Vista. And yes, I've installed every operating system under the sun onto various hardware with mixed results given the proprietary nature of Nvidia and a few other hardware vendors. I have the latest Acer AMD Turion64 Nvidia Geforce 8400M G graphics card equipped laptop that requires a few non-existent hardware drivers to run on XP, Ubuntu wouldn't even run in 'safe' mode, but OpenSUSE was one of the few distros that would deal with my Nvidia network card, which yes, the forums have clear instructions 20 pages running on how to configure your wireless and sound cards. I punched in every line of code out there to get the sound to work. That's what I like about Mac OSX and Microsoft, double-click software installation/configuation.
i love open source on vista
by medialover - 5/13/08 1:29 AM In reply to: Cross Platform Office Software-OpenOffice by majroth22I use open office on vista. (it was only because i found it on linux that i looked it up for windows). I would use GIMP, but i have photoshop, and once you use photoshop, there's no going back. I have crashed linux so many times installing software, and by "crashed" i mean the OS wouldn't even boot afterwards. plus linux wouldn't work with my wireless, which is a deal-breaker in itself. Vista works well. I do love open source though. WMP11, IE, and MS Office totally suck and are easily replaced by their open source conterparts VLC, firefox, and OpenOffice.org. (boo to UAC also!)
But I feel you: linux requires me to put a zillion lines of code in just to get VLC to play an mpeg file, and inevitably one of these tweaks will crash the OS, and unless it's something undoable in the xorg file, it may well crash my OS and I have to copy my files to an external hard drive and reinstall linux again. Not fun I can tell you.
Get a hold of yourself
by bosworth - 5/8/08 6:39 AM In reply to: Those who trust MS - the shrinking majority by algreigIt sounds as though your friend was the victim of shady sales tactics and not the problem of MS. It also sounds as though you never liked any MS product, so why comment here? The problem with Mac supporters is that they have an inferiority complex. They proclaim the superiority of their product (while paying through the nose) and the company still can't take market share away from Microsoft. Apple finally had to become an digital music company (they sell more music now) in order to become competitive. Apple better hope that Jobs isn't struck by lightning because Apple is nothing without him - MS is already in the post-Gates era.
Vista-loving majority
by Tatiana25_2006 - 5/8/08 1:34 AM In reply to: Silent Vista-loving majority? by chustarI have been using Vista for a while now, and honestly would not go back to XP. I have Vista on both my laptop and pc, and both have been running without a hitch. Sure there have been some minor issues but with sp1 and windows installer 4.5 there has been improvements. Good things only get better and Vista is one Im sure more and more users will enjoy.
Tat
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