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- 5/1/08 2:27 AM
500,000 to 1 contrast is not possible
by thehifidoc - 5/3/08 7:03 AM In reply to: I haven't heard what the XBR8 or A950 contrast ratios were. by 8IronBobIf a TV is properly measured with the ANSI black and white checkerboard pattern, in a normal viewing room, then any contrast rate above 1000:1 is phenomenal. In reality, any set that does 500:1 with a checkerboard pattern is amazingly pretty. Don't fall for the false specification if they don't spell out exactly how they achieved it. Full White vs. Set in off position, measured on one pixel in pitch dark room with out the front glass, is not a real spec.
That said, Samsung does make a nice display though it is more difficult to operate than a Runco or a Pioneer.
T.V, to choose. Since I just bought a 72in Sony XBR
by motherdoyou - 5/3/08 7:45 AM In reply to: 500,000 to 1 contrast is not possible by thehifidocThis is ana Rear Projection. I would would wait for the OLD or a good projection to take up less space.
Thanks,
Neil
Would I admit I am wrong?
by ahtoi - 5/3/08 8:53 AM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Of course not...PLASMA!
LCD
by radar202 - 5/3/08 9:01 AM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I bought a LCD Samsung and for the first 2 months it didn't work? It wasn't Samsung fault altogether it was sears. When you buy at sear there are two divisons. one the selling division who sells the product and if it is in the store it's their responcibility to have it delivered and cared for. But, if it is not in stock, it is the delivery division, and thats where the speed bump is.
I choose Samsung due to the deal and the clearity of the picture as for LCD vs Plasma, there is a lifetime put on Plasma, 40,000 to 50,000 hours plus you see what's infront of you, if you are sitting at say a 46 degree angle, then you see only what appears at that angle vs a full picture with LCD.
But it is all about to change, their in the works and it's going to make our so call "3D" pictures look sick. The pixels are sitting almost on each other which gives it a feeling your in the picture, there will be a tuner which will do away with the box. What a country, more to come.
Reflections And Viewing Angles
by Stan0807 - 5/3/08 10:01 AM In reply to: LCD by radar202I like plasma if the room is right--no problems with windows, light, reflections. I have a plasma that I love, that's in a room where refelctions are no problem whatsoever. Blacker blacks, I'm sure, is part of why I prefer plasma. However, my next TV will be for another room, that has a lot of windows and light, and I'll buy an LCD for that room. Reduced viewing angle or quality of image from the side is a problem for me with LCD, but in many rooms or situations that won't be a problem. I will say that LCD seems to be getting better all the time, and appears to have the momentum in terms of increasing share of sales to threaten the long-term viability of plasma.
Plasma plasma
by famulla - 5/4/08 1:43 PM In reply to: Reflections And Viewing Angles by Stan0807The only way you can look at the plama is one angle RIGHT IN THE EYE. any other you do not see proper. I have problems with the Plasma and that is, it is addictive as the CRT is tirying and the LCD is not. I love the black as it is sharp and does not fatigue you soon. CRT the cracking noise of the power is too much and the the tube is huge. Plasma is good but now that we have the flat black screens i like these but they are priced high. How come some one does not come up with cheaper plasma. Do they have to work harder on these? Packing the pixels in the 15 inch screen?
Plasma initially nicer
by willows5000 - 5/3/08 4:30 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Plasmas make a better first impression for me. When I glance across the walls of TVs at the store, LCDs always seem to have some sort of white balance, "clouding", or color accuracy flaw. Plasmas stick out as generally more pleasing at first glance, like a good ol' CRT, but with deeper colors. One drawback of plasmas was that their native resolution was determined by the size of the screen. So, high resolution required a terribly large screen. Nowadays more full 1080p plasmas are popping up in the more reasonable 42" range. While black level still isn't perfect, I think the way in which the soft murky blue-black is displayed is more tolerable than the 100% solid purple-black of LCD. If I had money for quality, I would definitely pay $5000 for a Kuro than try to discern the finite differences in quality amongst the various lines of high-end LCDs. Although the 4:3 cropping will surely burn in permanent borders over time, I would rather have perfection now than have to deal with any sort of nagging issues. What I really want, though, for film viewing, is 3 DLP front projection! Now that is some good black level!
LCD & OLED
by QuietStormX - 5/3/08 4:53 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
LCD and OLED in a few years. LCD because of efficiency and black level. You pay for what you get. Who is the bench mark everyone tries to out due. I prefer SONY, but someone else might like another brand because of the name... I look and read the specs, then judgment. Like in automobiles, no one can beat the Chevrolet Corvette on performance and price and get great gas mileage. Even the Porsche 911 with a 3.6L flat six. If you can afford the mark, well then. If not then get the best of the next and don't bash the best or mark.... Price does not make the equation in the review also. But LCD and in the future OLED is the way too go.
The way of the future is L.E.D, F.E.D, S.E.D backlighting
by krisstlye - 5/3/08 8:52 PM In reply to: LCD & OLED by QuietStormXsony O.L.E.D is A long time from real market due to 30,000hr life span and the cost the Organic display is just not feasable but it uses the same technlogy as Samsungs 81 Series and the new LG 90 series which have no life span and ar awesome sets well the spec on the LG have yet to be confirmed on CNEt or anywhere else but should be better than Samsungs which is only other L.E.D/LCD display on the market and there are a lot cheaper than the 19"O.L.E.D for $4,000 grand
Which HDTV choice Plasma or LCD
by JCipo - 5/3/08 5:25 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Plasma systems are terrific but try out the new LCD systems like the Samsung. The new LCD systems have very high contrast that match the quality of the Plasma. The new ones also have darker blacks and faster response to motion. I also have been told that there is no Plasma sets under 42 inches.
Here is the problems with Plasma. It sucks a tremendous amount of electricity. When computer chips have to be exposed to a great deal of heat they don't last as long. If you can get a good and cheap extended warranty on the Plasma then buy it. Of course, electricity is going up in cost.
Plasma for sure
by average_consumer - 5/4/08 10:20 AM In reply to: Which HDTV choice Plasma or LCD by JCipoI previously posted that I was converting to plasma after 2 years of lcd (and also having recently returned a bravia due to poor viewing angle). Well, last night I brought home a 42 inch panasonic 85u. It is simply incredible! It is like I have only just now truly entered the realm of high definition, even though I have had an lcd and hd signals for two years.
The picture at 178 degrees is better than the 90 degree, head-on, picture on the bravia was!
I honestly do not know how anyone who has had both technologies in their home can favor lcd. But then I don't know how anyone can vote republican after 8 years of GWB.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
by Master James - 5/4/08 1:28 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have never had either one, so what's the difference??
I'll admit it, I'm ignorant to what's what with both of them; I just do not understand the difference.
Give me a tv with great sound, a great pic and I'm happy...because I don't know the difference, I probably wouldn't give a hoot either way.
LEE?
by dinox64 - 5/4/08 4:34 PM In reply to: WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? by Master JamesYou never gave your opinion. For me it's plasma. I like the smoothness of it. It bothers me to see all the montion blur on LCDs. I don't know if the owners ignore it, think that it's normal or what, but I can't stand it. The images look as the cursor on my desktop does as it moves across the screen. And yes, trails is turned off.
LCD by default...for now
by hturner1949 - 5/5/08 5:42 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I currently own a JVC 48" CRT which is 5 1/2 years old. It could die tomorrow or last another 2 years which is why I am shopping now. I want to replace it with something between 52-55 inches and therein lies the dilemma. No Plasma in that size. I've seen a Samsung 50" Plasma next to its 52" LCD counterpart and trust me when I tell you the 2 inches makes a big difference. Since Panny's 58" Plasma is too big, the winner by default is LCD or DLP. I am intrigued by Mitsubishi's soon to be released LaserVue HDTV's. Maybe they will give us the best of all worlds finally; LCD, Plamas, DLP, LCOS & CRT.
Plasma of course, why ask way?
by sefuly - 5/6/08 12:20 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Plasma of course, the picture quality is better to the trained eyes. Most consumers prefer lcd's but these are average customers who goes lets say into a best buy and listens to the sales person. Remember all hdtvs in stores are set to factory setting and have a cable source connected. Plasma from any angle and usually in any lighting condition looks better. Lcd's suffer from motion blur and poor blacks, sometimes you can't even see the background. You can fine tune it all you want it still has motion blur and poor blacks. It is true lcd's are better than before but still the motion blur and the dark backgrounds are annoying. Don't be fooled by 120hz, it's so marginal over 60hz. If it was so great there wouldn't be an option to turn it on or off. 120hz only benefit you if you have a blue-ray player, other than that it does nothing for regular programming. Anyways across the board plasma is better than lcd. The only downfall of plasma is the price and weight. Don't believe in the myths about image retention, repair costs and life of the tv. it's simply not true. Any hdtv would be costly if it ever did break down, image retention, while it can occur is rare(just don't pause your game for hours..lol..) and life is about 60,000 hours, that would translate to 10+ years. So there you have it that's my 2 cents and more...Oh yeah I'm not being bias because I own neither a plasma or lcd...I know from watching other peoples sets and researching. I actually own a rear projection hdtv...hahahaha... and I love my sony kds60a3000. Most bang for the buck at a clearance price of $1,799...Thanks Cnet for the info on this awesome tv and free firmware...Peace, and pray for sports to be in 1080p.
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