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- 5/1/08 2:27 AM
Plasma is better than LCD
by arreview - 5/1/08 2:10 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I was just out looking at LCD TV's for my Mom (time to get digital TV off the air), and I can't stand the motion blur on all the LCD TVs. It's just horrible. I personally have a 60" Sony SXRD rear projection which I just love! Let's hope plasma doesn't go away any time soon. It already looks like Sony has stopped production of the SXRD line.
My vote goes for LCD
by Davz1111 - 5/1/08 2:13 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
LCD!
Why? For all the reasons in the article: Lighter, More energy efficient, no risk of burn in.
And your LCD at home being washed out and not as black as the plasma?
They're working on that, and some manufacturers already have the black at a pretty good level, and it might just be my eyes, but I'm not seeing this "washed out" look on my Samsung.
Plasma OffCourse
by rucdkey13 - 5/1/08 2:15 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Due to the brightnes of Plasma TV (3x LCD Brightness) and the refresh rate of Plasma that won't make any jaggies in the high speed movement scene of Movie. Another thing is the colour of Plasma is more vivid (saturation better) than LCD.
So it's feel like CRT TV without Big Radiation
If I had one choice, I'd choose...
by geofbrewer - 5/1/08 2:38 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
LCD. Not because it's superior, but because of the cost. I don't need a 100" LCD, but the improvements in LCDs has been dramatic while keeping costs to the point a typical consumer can afford one.
I agree the picture quality is superior on a plasma, but the cost and expected life even with proper care is not that great. Though TVs have become a consumable.
I work consumer electronic sales, currently. I used to work on CRT monitors when you used photometers to check brightness, a 10X microscope to verify focus, video generators, electrostatic voltmeters, and a host of ancient test equipment to maintain them.
As always, some people have better visual accuity, some have better visual centers in their brain, and some have both. Some have more disposable income; some don't.
Remember Betamax?
LCD for me as a largly untrained buyer
by john3347 - 5/1/08 3:05 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
It is my understanding that an LCD requires less energy for a given screen size and lasts significantly longer than plasma. I do not have a "trained eye" so I just want to watch my TV programs on a TV that doesn't require a huge amount of floor space or a huge power bill. I think total cost of ownership goes to LCD and that is the biggest factor in my decision.
What about DLP???
by Sponge_2k - 5/1/08 3:15 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
To quote CNET:
DLP has some performance advantages over competing technologies, including the deepest black levels of any projection technology (though LCD is coming on strong) and a 1,280x720-native-resolution chip that shows every pixel of 720p HDTV, resulting in a very sharp picture with high-definition sources. DLP is only getting cheaper and more popular, and the best examples deliver excellent image quality. Very good black-level performance on the best models; excellent uniformity; wide selection of brands and price points.
LCD
by scr33ner - 5/1/08 3:22 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
LCDs are more durable, period.
No problems with burn-ins.
Surporised That LCD Is Winning Poll
by aomiller13 - 5/1/08 3:25 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I am actually surprised that LCD seems to be beating Plasma (61% to 39% as I write this). Most of the responses that I have seen to this poll indicate that Plasma is the superior format in terms of quality.
My Panasonic 42" unit is now over two years old and has performed flawlessly although it is only a 720p set. I've been really happy with it, and the picture quality is fabulous. Every LCD unit I have seen still has problems with blacks and with viewing angle.
It is true that LCDs are more eco-friendly due to the fact that they use less energy. I do my bit to be "green." My house uses mostly low energy flouroscent bulbs, has efficient windows, etc. I don't drive to movies, etc. So I should have one entertainment vice, eh?
No Choice here
by kingsclear - 5/1/08 5:36 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I wouldn't pick either. Outside of them not being the stylish flat panel you can hang on a wall there is no doubt in my mind that I have and would go XBR SXRD all over again. That technology produced a better picture with the fastest response time, deep blacks, and a huge color gamut. Sony made a major mistake in cancelling the program where they should have produced one that was either LED or laser lit. The fact that it was a major mistake lies in the fact that it is virtually impossible to find an SXRD XBR5 unit. Go figure! The color gamut would have been increased again and the contrast ratio would have been probably doubled to 20,000:1 and the one other excuse for not having one, namely having to replace bulbs as they burn out, would magically disappear.
LCD, of course:
by icurhuman2 - 5/1/08 6:17 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Having only just bought a new 36" LCD TV, and having also done a lot of research beforehand, I certainly have a viewpoint. The reasons we opted for LCD were many.
Firstly, the difference in broadcast resolution was minimal, in fact, I could hardly tell the difference, but, this may well be because the Australian standard in broadcast TV is the same as Europe (PAL) whereas the US standard is the less clear NTSC so there may be a bigger difference between plasma and LCD I'm unaware of (I have seen reproductions in NTSC and it SUCKS! American television resolution has always been lousy!).
Secondly, the price difference, though getting less and less all the time, is still fairly great, with plasma costing a lot more.
Thirdly, the amount of electricity needed the run a plasma is a great deal more than LCD, and even if you can afford the higher electric utility bill it's not exactly environmentally a good idea.
62% of you are wrong
by ptbenic2 - 5/1/08 6:38 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I find it hard to believe that anyone with eyes would buy an LCD at any price over a Plasma at any price. Granted below 42 inches, one must buy LCD, but in the world of 42 inches and above there is no question that Plasma has the superior picture for anything on TV or DVD -- especially sports and cinema. It has a much better viewing angle and with the Panasonic anti-glare screens, the big bright room reflection issue is no longer an issue. In the end, Plasma just looks more natural because of the deeper blacks, better color and better contrast ratios. Forget the marketing and the bad advice at Best Buy, do a bit of research and trust your eyes. Brands are important. PTB
Plasma Still outperforms LCD in nearly every way. here are 9
by thehifidoc - 5/1/08 7:39 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Plasma vs LCD
Who wins and why? www.hifidoc.com
Doc Greene, president
Audio Video Designers LP
1 Brightness: The great thing about plasma is not only that the picture is bright; it is a light emissive device. You have over 1 million picture elements (pixels) that emit active light all the time unless the picture is black, in which case they emit virtually no light. This means the picture level is perfectly constant from corner to corner, and top to bottom.
2 Long life: Modern Plasma technology offers a viewing life under normal conditions of 60 thousand hours. Allowing for 3 hours of viewing per day 365 days per year that is about 54 years for the average viewer.
3 Exceptional speed: Plasma gas and phosphors change state much more quickly than Liquid Crystal. This means less blurring and other picture artifacts when watching fast motion like sports and action movies.
4 More accurate color: Because nearly all LCD displays are back lit, light transmissive devices this means that color is dependent on the fluorescent style lighting behind the display. These usually have very cool color temperatures of 13 thousand degrees Kelvin or even higher, which means it is a very blue picture tone. Most name brand Plasmas have a color temperature of 6500 degrees Kelvin which is the average color of daylight. In simple terms this means more accurate flesh tones.
5 Extreme viewing angles: Plasma is viewable up to 89 degrees off axis in any direction with full color and brightness. LCD experiences both color shift and loss of brightness at 30 degrees off access left to right and 10 degrees off access vertically.
6 Burn In.: It is possible to “burn-in an image on plasma, BUT, it takes things like never watching it full screen or leaving a video game up for 3 days. In the video game scenario it is possible to repair burn-in like this by running full screen full motion video for 72 hours.
7 Persistent images: LCD has this problem. If you watch a few hours of sports where they have a graphic in place for some period of time you may notice the ghost of this image persisting on other program material. The fix, of course, is to turn off the display for a minute and turn it back on.
8 Price: For small displays 40 inches and under then LCD wins hands down. For displays larger than 40 inches Plasma wins. Especially in the 42 inch category.
9 Reflections: LCD does work better at eliminating reflections for windows if you can live wth the other issues I outlined earlier, but for plasma this problem can be controlled with articulating mounts and window treatments.
LCD has a better Natural Picture!
by fliersrr - 5/1/08 7:51 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think the LCD TVs have a much nicer, more natural true to life color than plasma.
Plasma has made great improvements like anti-glare screen films over the Plasma, but still the best true to life picture is LCD.
LCD more true to life than Plasma?
by thehifidoc - 5/1/08 8:34 PM In reply to: LCD has a better Natural Picture! by fliersrrAs a graduate of the Imaging Science Foundation and master of color analysis, I have to differ with you on your assessment. Perfect color requires that white be 6500 degrees Kelvin (the color of daylight) from 20 IRE of brightness to 100 IRE which is full white bright. I only know of a couple of LCDs that approach that. A good display must be able to produce deep black at 0 IRE without losing the last 2% of detail. I don't know of too many plasmas that can do that, but I don't know of any LCDs that can. A good display must be able to produce full white at 100IRE at 6500 degrees Kelvin and not crush the last 2% at the top. Use the Snell and Wilcox zone plate for this test. This means that a man wearing a white shirt and black jacket will allow you to see good rosy flesh tones, the collar buttons and collar detain on the shirt, and the stitching on the jackets lapel. Most LCDs have color temps at about 13000 Kelvin which is too blue to deliver good natural color.
T.V.s
by karebu - 5/1/08 8:01 PM In reply to: Poll: If you had only one HDTV choice, which would you pick? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
When we were T.V. shopping after Christmas, we checked out T.V.s at various stores and all of the salesmen told us that plasma T.V.s last about five years while LCD T.V.s are good for 10+ years. Both T.V.s cost about the same, so picking the one that is going to last longer with less problems (such as screen-burn)makes more sense.
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